Bi-sexuality.

[Yog Sothoth]

An "Exclusively Heterosexual" individual is just as rare as an "exclusively homosexual" one.

Go Kinsey Scale.

A lot of people touting to be "strict straights" are actually 1s or 2s.

Being Bisexual (3) is just as valid as any other stance on sexual behaviour between X and Y genders (see wut I did thar?), as long as we're talking consensual adults I have nothing against it.

PS: I wouldn't consider being in non-monogamous relationships or having "sex-for-it's-own-sake" to be "greedy", if an adult does it with other consenting adults it's their own business, regardless of sexual orientation, and should most definitely perform and take pleasure in it. It's sad that typically those with little motivation and considerably envy tend to consider such acts as "greed".

That chart is so wrong, I don't even know where to start... Outside of that, I agree with everything else you say.

 

[Biosophilogical]

I have no sexual interest in Men in any way. It repulses me.

Does amphoteric mean what I think it means? Because if it does your post is hilarious.

EDIT: I looked it up and it does mean what I think it means. Thank you year 12 chemistry for making sex-threads funny.

OT: I have my own theory about sexuality. I think that everyone can be attracted to everyone else on both physical and psychological levels, but these attractions or repulsions do not equate to sexual attraction or not. Rather, if you are attracted to somebody enough (whether physically, psychologically or a combination of both) then you will develop sexual feelings towards that person, where the amount of initial attraction needed is based upon what I call teh 'sex threshold'. Now obviously there are other factors like whether someone has been raised (not necessarily in an explicit manner) to find only women sexually attractive (meaning that, while they'd still find men sexually attractive, they'd have developed a mentla block so that they don't experience that attraction on a consciously recognisable level).

Obviously this is just a theory, and the only evidence I have is that the more attractive members of a group tend to be more popular by virtue of their looks (I went to an all boys school, so it was boys finding other boys more popular), which I basically took to mean that men, whether they are straight or not, can recognise and be attracted by physically endearing traits in others, regardless of sex.

But yeah, just a theory, don't go asking "Where's your proof!?" because I don't have anything concrete, just my own deductions from my own experience with social groups.

 

[Spacelord]

I whole heartedly support the pragmatism of bisexuality: you're basically doubling your chances! That said I'm not sure I could ever deal with making out with a dude so it's mostly a sideline sort of support.

Um... you DO know that leaves a WHOLE lot of other sexual options in there, right? I know plenty of 'heteroflexible' guys who don't kiss... And even a few guys who'll HAPPILY kiss another guy, but it wouldn't go any further than that (which confuses the everliving fuck out of me)

That raises the question of how that'd work in practice, you know? In my admittedly rather limited experience there's a certain gradation of intimacy as time progresses, you know first you kiss, then you go further from there. You can't go up to a guy in a bar and go like "hey wanna go out back and blow eachother?"...

Wait, no, actually I think you totally could.

Thing is all the men I do find attractive are way, way out of my league. Case in point:

Spoiler: I would fuck this man's brain out in a heartbeat

Spoiler: and his current boyfriend...

This is some BULLSHIT

And since my standards for the ladies are a lot more realistic I'm afraid I'm going to have to stick with girls. I think I'll live though!

 

[Blitzwarp]

From a social acceptability standpoint: I don't understand the smugness that often gets directed at bisexuality. If someone tells me they are bisexual, then my immediate thought isn't "oh right yeah, because it's trendy, how hip of you *smug* *smug* *smug*." Perhaps I'm not hanging out in the right crowd or something, but if somebody tells me they're attracted to both men and women I assume it's because they're attracted to both men and women, and move on. Also, whenever anybody accuses bisexuals of being "less likely to form working relationships" because they're obviously going to be attracted to everybody, I wonder if that person has moved out of the 1950's in all of their other opinions. I believe I qualify as a 2 on the Kinsey Scale, but that doesn't mean that when I'm in a relationship I'm eyeing up all of the other men and some of the women I encounter. :/

From a biological standpoint: I don't know if I agree with the "everybody is a little bit bisexual" argument. I certainly don't disagree with it, but I do think there are people who are 100% heterosexual, male or female, just as there are people who are 100% asexual. I also don't think that anybody who states they are 100% heterosexual ought to be judged, either. It's no better or worse than coming down on somebody for saying they're homosexual or bisexual.

 

[Valdrec]

I think the only factor "blocking" someone is how open minded they are.
Potentially, everyone is compatible, but a person's opinion will stop them. It's possible to change your opinion and become more or less open minded about the idea.
There's also some research that suggests a person's chemical buildup can affect what sexuality you start with, but I don't think this stops you from opening to other possibilities.

 

[wolfchylde]

Meh, I'm probably a Kinsey 9 or 8.

I hate to break it to all you supposedly 100% 'straight' guys, but maybe you see yourselves as a Kinsey 0, but I'll bet 99% of the guys I see with wedding bands on their fingers getting BJs in the video booths at the adult bookstores would say the same thing.

Just sayin, tons and tons and TONS of '100% straight' guys are out there getting the occasional beej or ass from other guys.

Now as to the OT - To call them Greedy is laughable, it's not like they are collecting harems or anything... and if they were? KUDOS to them! My only worry about bisexual people is that eventually they wind up hurting SOMEONE, and almost ALWAYS unintentionally. Having been burned by a guy heading on Kinsey 4 or so (in my estimation) he eventually married and we lost touch, and it broke my heart, but I can't blame HIM for that. *shrug*

Don't talk out of your ass. I can't conceive the act of making out with a dude, let alone having sex with one, without instantly feeling that if I were in such a situation I'd feel like I was being raped. Most of my friends say and feel exactly the same. So don't make stupid assumptions about people and not expect they won't be mad, because when the situation is reversed more often than not gay/bisexual people flip out, and rightly so. So don't be a ****.

I'm not talking out my ass at all kiddo, I'm talking from REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE. Perhaps if you peeked outside that comfy hilarious worldview you'd see things aren't nearly as cut and dry as you make them out to be.

Methinks you protest a WEE too much, perhaps you're defensive because you don't want to face any reality where you might be wrong? You hide in your own self-delusion and you talk as if you know EVERYTHING about yourself, or your friends (yeah cuz that's a subject that comes up all the time, right? Don't make me laugh), and you think you know everything that goes on around you.

Eventually you'll realize that even assuming you are '100% straight', my statement still stands. People say 'oh percentages!' when the vast majority of people who're anywhere from Kinsey 1-3 will VEHEMENTLY claim they are Kinsey 0's

Don't be **** bro, try some reading comprehension, it works wonders.

 

[SodaDew]

I don't really believe there is such thing. Like with high school girls, that's called "Hey look at me im acting different and want attention."

 

[ComicsAreWeird]

From a biological standpoint: I don't know if I agree with the "everybody is a little bit bisexual" standpoint. I certainly don't disagree with it, but I do think there are people who are 100% heterosexual, male or female, just as there are people who are 100% asexual. I also don't think that anybody who states they are 100% heterosexual ought to be judged, either. It's no better or worse than coming down on somebody for saying they're homosexual or bisexual.

THIS.

It explains my views on this subject pretty well. I´m against judging anyone. All choices are to be respected.

 

[OverlordSteve]

I like girls and guys. I've only ever had girlfriends, but if I found a guy who I was attracted to and was willing (and we were both single, of course), I'd date him without a second thought. I don't use the term "bisexual" because I wasn't attracted to both genders until last year, and I don't know if I'll be attracted to both (or either) genders in the future.

Personally, I see sexuality as something you should define solely on your own experiences and feelings and not on classifications, labels, or scales. Those things carry connotations and expectations with them that just complicate things, which a person doesn't need to adopt, because who they're attracted to is their own business, and they're not accountable to anyone but themselves (Holy run-on sentence, Batman!).

 

[Lieju]

Well, I'm a lesbian, and while there are males I find attractive in the "he's kinda cute" way, sexually, just... no.

If I ever fell for a guy, well, it's not like I have anything against it, but it's hard to imagine...

Even bi-sexual people aren't attracted to everyone. They just can fall in love with people of both sexes. And some people aren't that clearly male or female anyway.

Bi-sexuals can have a kind of bad reputation in lesbian circles, as they are considered as just experimenting, and not looking for a serious commitment, which might be true for some, but I wouldn't judge people based on that.

 

[Gahars]

Most people are at least a little bi. People who are 100% straight/gay are very, very rare.

Kinsey scale, right?

I don't really know what to say. There are people who like the opposite gender, people who like the same gender, people who like both, and everything in between.

I can't see any real issue with that.

 

[Czargent Sane]

I think the only factor "blocking" someone is how open minded they are.
Potentially, everyone is compatible, but a person's opinion will stop them. It's possible to change your opinion and become more or less open minded about the idea.
There's also some research that suggests a person's chemical buildup can affect what sexuality you start with, but I don't think this stops you from opening to other possibilities.

I cant help that dudes are unattractive. if guys were attractive, they'd be women.

 

[wolfchylde]

I whole heartedly support the pragmatism of bisexuality: you're basically doubling your chances! That said I'm not sure I could ever deal with making out with a dude so it's mostly a sideline sort of support.

Um... you DO know that leaves a WHOLE lot of other sexual options in there, right? I know plenty of 'heteroflexible' guys who don't kiss... And even a few guys who'll HAPPILY kiss another guy, but it wouldn't go any further than that (which confuses the everliving fuck out of me)

That raises the question of how that'd work in practice, you know? In my admittedly rather limited experience there's a certain gradation of intimacy as time progresses, you know first you kiss, then you go further from there. You can't go up to a guy in a bar and go like "hey wanna go out back and blow eachother?"...

Wait, no, actually I think you totally could.

Thing is all the men I do find attractive are way, way out of my league. Case in point:

Spoiler: I would fuck this man's brain out in a heartbeat

Spoiler: and his current boyfriend...

This is some BULLSHIT

And since my standards for the ladies are a lot more realistic I'm afraid I'm going to have to stick with girls. I think I'll live though!

Well what would you do if a guy you thought you might be able to have some kind of fun with approached you and offered you, say, a blowjob?

Of course a bisexual friend of mine once said to me "If men could get head from a squid, every man would own an aquarium, getting head doesn't mean jack shit about someone's sexuality." She always did have a rather hilarious pragmatic view of sexuality

 

[squid5580]

Why are people saying that everyone is bi, even if it's a little? I have NO sexual or romantic feelings towards men. I am not a bisexual. Simple as that.

Then you belong in a museum.

Hope there is enough room in there for me too. I don't even like porn that has guys in it. turns me off.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

An "Exclusively Heterosexual" individual is just as rare as an "exclusively homosexual" one.

Go Kinsey Scale.

A lot of people touting to be "strict straights" are actually 1s or 2s.

I seriously doubt that. First of all because I've never made out with a guy or anything (and haven't had any trouble not doing so) but mainly because the scale says homosexual BEHAVIOR and not homosexual urges. If someone is outspokenly saying they aren't gay, I would think that they would go out of their way to not act on any homosexual tendencies they might have. Also, people who are completely celibate wouldn't even be accounted for on this scale regardless of actual orientation.

I'd define sexuality as a cognitive state of being. If you only fuck girls because you want to fit in but like dudes, you're still gay, it's just that nobody knows it. Doing girls doesn't make you strait or even bi if you have to close your eyes and pretend it's an ass to get through it.

 

[Thespian]

Forgive me for the double post, but that chart is so wrong, I don't even know where to start...

Outside of that, I agree with everything else you say.

It's so wrong it's one of the most respected Psychological advances of the 20th Century.

The Kinsey Scale is not without it's flaws (flaws namely being that it only goes horizontally, not vertically) but it is a highly effective representation of the various shades of human sexuality.

 

[Yog Sothoth]

-snip!-

Don't be **** bro, try some reading comprehension, it works wonders.

I might suggest you take some of your own advice. I've seen a couple of folks here now who have asserted that 100% gay/lesbian or straight people are in the minority, citing the Kinsey scale. I got curious about this, because it didn't sound right to me, so I followed this link that was posted earlier: http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/research/ak-hhscale.html

(Emphasis added)

Interviewing people about their sexual histories, the Kinsey team found that, for many people, sexual behavior, thoughts and feelings towards the same or opposite sex was not always consistent across time. Though the majority of men and women reported being exclusively heterosexual, and a percentage reported exclusively homosexual behavior and attractions, many individuals disclosed behaviors or thoughts somewhere in between.
...
There is no 'test.' The scale is purely a method of self-evaluation based on your individual experience, and the rating you choose may change over time.

I believe this speaks for itself, unless your reading comprehension is poor.

 

[lvl9000_woot]

An "Exclusively Heterosexual" individual is just as rare as an "exclusively homosexual" one.

Go Kinsey Scale.

Spoiler

A lot of people touting to be "strict straights" are actually 1s or 2s.

-snip-

I agree in saying more people are at the very least a 1. I'm not gay nor bi, but I can appreciate an attractive male. @ActionDan, if you've seen p0rn with a guy in it, I think that counts as being a 1.

I've had a bi gf in the past who cheated on me and because of that, I DO think they're more inclined to cheat. I also think being bi has something to do with a need for a lot of (mainly sexual) attention.

 

[subject_87]

I don't have much to say on the matter, but I will say that this thread might be slipping into a total flame war...

 

[Yog Sothoth]

Forgive me for the double post, but that chart is so wrong, I don't even know where to start...

Outside of that, I agree with everything else you say.

It's so wrong it's one of the most respected Psychological advances of the 20th Century.

The Kinsey Scale is not without it's flaws (flaws namely being that it only goes horizontally, not vertically) but it is a highly effective representation of the various shades of human sexuality.

It was a great start, but that research doesn't begin and end with Kinsey. Much has been built on the foundation that he laid down. Also, there is a great deal of psychology that we still don't understand, and there are even those in the scientific community who question the validity of psychology as a 'science' at all.

EDIT: All I am asserting is that the idea that only a tiny fraction of the population is 100% straight is wrong. There's nothing wrong with the chart beyond that.