The second you get your hands on a real pair you are too old! i'd say around 15 year oldjawakiller said:
Big Boobs- why do people complain?
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I draw the line between well-endowed and "balloon animal".
Something about a character having inhumanly enormous knockers just puts me off.
Though there are instances where Boob Inflation crosses the line and becomes shameless pandering; a practice that I find distracting from the experience (and not in a good way, joking aside) if that wasn't the original point of the game.
Something about a character having inhumanly enormous knockers just puts me off.
Though there are instances where Boob Inflation crosses the line and becomes shameless pandering; a practice that I find distracting from the experience (and not in a good way, joking aside) if that wasn't the original point of the game.
Agreed. (edit: Scarlet was suppose to be seen as sexy, just proportionally so in a more feminist overtone)MasochisticMuse said:
I only choose Scarlet because she was the only Cartoon Character i can think of off the top of my head that is ubiquitous enough that everyone know who she is and still looks like a real human being in cartoon form. Same with Jessica Rabbit vice versa. the 2 extremes ^-^
Hard to come up with an analogy when i can't even reference a proportionally drawn female character in cartoons nowadays. i guess i could have reference anime, but they are pretty big offenders in the Big Boobs McGee category too. heh
If i can find a picture like that, my example would make more sense XD
High5, OP. High5.
Here's the problem as I imagine it right now: a lot of women feel uncomfortable with attention they get already IRL, regardless of whether or not they have massive mams. If they try to identify with an uber-hot female protagonist then they feel the combined stares of millions of horny, unattractive masturbating dudes who have little interest in them beyond getting off and leaving the premises. Gentlemen for the most part rarely feel overly ogled. For them, the additional attention the buff, good-looking protagonist would get from ladies would be received as a mostly positive side-effect.
As a result, women with a more androgynous and less centerfold appearance will garner more positive attention from a lot of women regardless of how well they are characterized simply because many ladies feel threatened by sexual attention and those androgynous women will likely receive less of it from men. More attention may come from a particular segment of the lesbian population, but women are simply less scared of lesbian sexual attention on the whole than attention from men.
The problem, ultimately? Misogyny (the hatred of women) has taught men to oppress women. Women have internalized the perceived superiority of the man's position and hide from them. The other problem is one of efficiency: people are taught by capitalism to exploit. The way you make money is to buy or make something for the least amount of effort and money possible, and sell it for the most money possible. This gets translated into the treatment of women by men. The men want to extract as much sexual enjoyment out of women as possible without employing any effort, time, money or emotional investment themselves.
The solution: treat people like people, both IRL and in games. And you know what? Some people have big tits IRL and in games. Some people have big muscles and big penises IRL and in games. Is that a problem? Hell no. That's great! Women should realize that they are not always in a vulnerable position when expressing their sexuality, and men need to realize that the point of sex is not to get as much as you can, but to bone somebody. Boning is awesome.
Here's the problem as I imagine it right now: a lot of women feel uncomfortable with attention they get already IRL, regardless of whether or not they have massive mams. If they try to identify with an uber-hot female protagonist then they feel the combined stares of millions of horny, unattractive masturbating dudes who have little interest in them beyond getting off and leaving the premises. Gentlemen for the most part rarely feel overly ogled. For them, the additional attention the buff, good-looking protagonist would get from ladies would be received as a mostly positive side-effect.
As a result, women with a more androgynous and less centerfold appearance will garner more positive attention from a lot of women regardless of how well they are characterized simply because many ladies feel threatened by sexual attention and those androgynous women will likely receive less of it from men. More attention may come from a particular segment of the lesbian population, but women are simply less scared of lesbian sexual attention on the whole than attention from men.
The problem, ultimately? Misogyny (the hatred of women) has taught men to oppress women. Women have internalized the perceived superiority of the man's position and hide from them. The other problem is one of efficiency: people are taught by capitalism to exploit. The way you make money is to buy or make something for the least amount of effort and money possible, and sell it for the most money possible. This gets translated into the treatment of women by men. The men want to extract as much sexual enjoyment out of women as possible without employing any effort, time, money or emotional investment themselves.
The solution: treat people like people, both IRL and in games. And you know what? Some people have big tits IRL and in games. Some people have big muscles and big penises IRL and in games. Is that a problem? Hell no. That's great! Women should realize that they are not always in a vulnerable position when expressing their sexuality, and men need to realize that the point of sex is not to get as much as you can, but to bone somebody. Boning is awesome.
I quite honestly don't care that much about this subject.
But, I just want to point out: in real life, girls with huge boobs usually want them smaller.
Why? Because they're frankly in the way. They can also really hurt your back, because they weigh a lot, and going a step further bra's are fucking expensive for people with regular boobs imagine the financial trouble huge one's would bring.
So, if you look at that, and then at video games, then the only complaint I personally could pose is how girls with so huge breasts, that mostly don't even have them properly supported by, say, a bra or something, could move with such ease. Really, if you have boobs that huge, it's not fun bouncing about on rooftops of swinging around a whip or whatever, especially unsupported. So it's unrealistic.
But so are a ton of other physical situations which don't make any sense in reality(if you've watched the Incredibles... the scene where that guy knocks away the daughters stick-thin legs, without them breaking is an example that makes me hold my breath every time) - but video games, sorry to burst your bubble, are usually not set in reality.
But, I just want to point out: in real life, girls with huge boobs usually want them smaller.
Why? Because they're frankly in the way. They can also really hurt your back, because they weigh a lot, and going a step further bra's are fucking expensive for people with regular boobs imagine the financial trouble huge one's would bring.
So, if you look at that, and then at video games, then the only complaint I personally could pose is how girls with so huge breasts, that mostly don't even have them properly supported by, say, a bra or something, could move with such ease. Really, if you have boobs that huge, it's not fun bouncing about on rooftops of swinging around a whip or whatever, especially unsupported. So it's unrealistic.
But so are a ton of other physical situations which don't make any sense in reality(if you've watched the Incredibles... the scene where that guy knocks away the daughters stick-thin legs, without them breaking is an example that makes me hold my breath every time) - but video games, sorry to burst your bubble, are usually not set in reality.
you forget thin waist. to the point of absurdity. Like when the Thigh is wider than their waist XD.ForgottenPr0digy said:
kudos for the devil being hung like a horse. thought they were gonna give him the old superhero spandex crotch routine.
You still do not get it do you?kogane said:
I'll try to be very, very blunt.
Bayonetta while being sexy and in control is STILL being objectified and thought of as a sex symbol.
I agree she is one of the female characters that can still be badass while being sexy and use being sexy to her advantage.
BUT THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT SHE IS AND WILL BE SEXUALLY OBJECTIFIED.
Sexual objectification has very little to do with how the character acts in game. It's how it's being seen by the people playing this game. And in this case my argument is that majority of pre-pubescent teens will see her just as a sex object with her big tits long legs etcettera.
And nowhere am I saying that she cannot feel empowered by Bayonetta. I believe person can take whatever role model they want in their life, being it Dalai Lama or a waitress from Hooters.
So in short just in case you will still not get it:
No matter how she acts. It's how large ammount of players percieve her.
Never did I say Bayonetta should not be her role model, I just pointed out the irony.
Lots 'o Love.
Kirov.
I just find them to be just there to sell copies. Not only that, but they seem like an exaggeration to me.
Dude, read the thread, you're the sixth person to point that out to me, I already corrected myself seeing as I only played a half hour of the demo. Before you're telling me my argument is 'invalid' make sure yours is at least still relevant.Maraveno said:
Because it's a cheap way of selling stock.
Because you cannot take a character seriously if their tits are larger than their head.
Because it's essentially saying to the all of us gamers/anime watchers: "You are so fucking dumb, that if we just draw a giant pair of boobs on every female, you will fork out cash to play our games. What idiots you are. Now, consume."
Because you cannot take a character seriously if their tits are larger than their head.
Because it's essentially saying to the all of us gamers/anime watchers: "You are so fucking dumb, that if we just draw a giant pair of boobs on every female, you will fork out cash to play our games. What idiots you are. Now, consume."
the ones that immediately jump out at me are kratos, geralt, from the witcher, pigsy, the lead from gears of war, mario and wario (i know they are cartoons, but peach and daisy are also cartoons and their main physical feature is beauty, while marios is pretty much just looking goofy). take most fighting games and most, if not all, the female characters are thin, busty, attractive girls. while most male characters in fighting games are also good looking, there are also usually at least one or two freakish or overweight male characters. i dont play many fighting games, but i struggle to think of any fat or freakish looking female characters. actually thats not true, there is mileena, from mortal kombat, but like scorpion and reptile, you can only tell she is abnormal when she removes her mask, which doesnt happen very often. still, i suppose she would technically be the exception.Steve Fidler said:
anyway, im not saying all male characters are ugly, im just saying that it seems far more acceptable for male characters to be ugly, than it is for female characters
I really could care less there are just mounds of flesh/fatty tissue. I am not going to say that I don't find the attractive but they are what they are just breast. If woman truly want to be equal the don't be afraid to show them off, they are a part of your body and you have as much right as I do to take off my shirt. Yeah going off topic a bit but no they don't bother me in games or real life people just need calm the "hell" down and remember what breast are meant for in the 1st place.
It perpetuates a stereotype that nerds personify our sextual frustrations in this form.
Extra credits really well:
We hold women like Ivy from soul calibre and real women in the same category. Great to look at but it'll never happen.
It's complicated really.
Extra credits really well:
We hold women like Ivy from soul calibre and real women in the same category. Great to look at but it'll never happen.
It's complicated really.
They do seem to move in creepily unnatural ways.Paksenarrion said:
At times, faster that the human eye can comprehend.
Perhaps this disturbing rapid jiggling blur is to key to Faster than light travel?
The majority of the characters you chose illustrate my point, not yours:00slash00 said:
are just two of the pictures I dug of of the way male characters are portrayed.
None of the characters you mentioned are ugly, short of the cartoon characters (which are not even close to what we are talking about) and mutants. Fighting games have joke characters all the time, but the core characters are generally attempts at attractive characters. Ryu, Guile, Zangief are all muscular, chiseled, built men. They have a body style that is unattainable for most men who don't have time to work out every minute of the day, and are made that way to look cool to guys, and to appeal to women.