Big Jiggly Boobs in Games... is it really worth all the QQing?

[suicide samurai]

I'm 31, and breasts are a part of life--at least my life.

While I still like the Muppets and Pixar produced stuff, I expect mature rated games to act in a mature fashion. Not every woman flaunts what they have, or even has anything to flaunt. Some do, however.

If the Girl at the department store wante to bear her cleavage as she bends over to pack my items, I'm going to peak down into that 4 inches of shadow. If she wears a high-rising shirt, no need.

Basic point here--in some cases a character should be designed as a "flirt," and in other cases, not so much.

Concerned parents should purchase with caution, concerned females should take an honest look at what women wear at work and during relaxation, and designers should try to balance things out a little more.

Then again, there is a porn market, and if a game is rated for a mature audiance and there's an audiance for it, might as well crank up jiggle physics to 11.

 

[Nyce1]

its a bunch of pixels... seriously I remember the original Dead or Alive for playstation 1 and saw that and giggled a bit..... there freakin pixels who cares if its for laughs.

 

[RatRace123]

Well, Lara's original model had huge Boobs. They were actually reduced in the Legend Era reboot, while still being good sized, they were more realistic in proportion.
I'm not sure what bearing this has on the conversation, but it does give me another chance to bring up Legend, and I freakin' loved that game.
I guess I can say, that a size reduction had no bearing on the quality of that game, and IMO it was the best of the Tomb Raiders.

 

[Worgen]

if a game features large breasted woman as a selling point like the laura croft or doa beach vollyball games, i wont buy it.

are all big boobs bad tho? I mean cant a woman have more then a b cup naturally in a game?

not to the level they have in video games, and as I dont find them attractive I dont see the point in buying a game where that is the main selling point.

how do you not make them a selling point tho, I mean its not like most women with big boobs try and hide them (or it really seems like they love to show them off) but how do you portray that in a way that wouldnt be considering pandering?

 

[TailsRodrigez]

Change is good, because without having massive tits, the developers will have to make a more interesting character so players will still play the game. Also, it isn't an overreaction to the amount of large boobs in video games, because while movies have many women that come in many different forms, practically every female character in video games has to be D cup with a perfect figure and willing to wear the smallest amount of clothing possible. Big boobs aren't bad, but when I look back at the number of female characters in video games and how they are portrayed, I can see why there are more people angry than defending of the trend. If there is an equal amount of girls with "normal" breasts compared to "video game normal", than less people would complain. This is a step in the right direction to creating that balance and focusing more on the character than the eye candy.

plus, the Tomb Raider series has always sucked, so hopefully taking away the only selling point will end the series.

 

[Jumplion]

its a bunch of pixels... seriously I remember the original Dead or Alive for playstation 1 and saw that and giggled a bit..... there freakin pixels who cares if its for laughs.

Oh please, don't go down that route, please. The exact same thing can be said for most every other thing out there. "It's just football/baseball/soccer/a movie/a book/a pair of shoes/3DTV/a phone/blahdeblahblah, who cares?"

Nothing will ever improve if we just take the "it doesn't matter!" route.

 

[BenzSmoke]

Think of it this way: A female character with giant breasts is the equivalent of a male character with a giant err... shlong.
That thought make you uncomfortable? Well now you know how the ladies feel.

 

[Irony's Acolyte]

What if I like smaller boobs...

OT: Though really, I do think its a little bit too much to be getting upset about. I mean they're just boobs. Having large breasts shouldn't be the selling point of a game like this. Plus she isn't flat-chested now, she's just no longer ridiculously well-endowed.

I do like smaller boobs though. Seriously.

 

[The Black Ghost]

There is an art to subtly that most video game designers do not seem to realize.

I dont see this as personally offensive as much as I find it offensive to video games as an art form. I mean, how steryotypical can you get? Using sex as a gimmick in any media always gets a F in my book for utter lack of creativity. Its cliched, predictable, and boring. Besides, the best beauty is what you dont really see, so much as imagine. I praise any video game that goes for realism and gives subtle beauty.


Also, I find overly-large boobs unnattractive.

 

[Ritter315]

Big boobs are fine in a game IF they make sense. Having your character have big boobs should MEAN something. Ok, let me justify that: If your character is a shy, young (Say 17 year old), shuttering, slightly naive girl than DONT make her a DD!! And if you do make them re-enforce the fact that she is easily taken advantage of or not taken very seriously (Ex. Ukraine from Hetalia: Axis Powers) For Lara, she's a women, and breats are part of a women's body, she's proud of the fact she's a women, therefore if she has slightly bigger breasts than the normal women that should be ok. I've never found Lara to be that much of a sex symbol, where does it come from? Plus her games are horrible anywyas (HAH!) But seriously, everything a game gives a character should MEAN something to that character, big breats included. If it's for niche sex appeal like Dead or Alive, thats fine since thats the POINT of the game, we have movies like that too. If a women has big boobs, a sexy voice, and acts like a whore than she should BE a whore! Big boobs can't be cookie cutter for any female character is what I'm saying, only when it makes sense, put it in your games!

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

I don't really know what the big hullaboloo was about. Oh no she has big tits. :/ News flash, every other form of (visual) media portrays attractive women with large boobs.

 

[Ritter315]

Also, it's important to know what culture this is coming from. Japanese. Ok, I'm not a xenophob or anything, but I'm going to make some negative observations of Japanese culture and it's impact on anime, some of this is from Japanese sources. Since World War II, Japanese people seem to have a dominance problem. Rmemeber the entire culture was based off a military sense of value ever since the 19th century. Afterwards, it became a very weaken culture and it's people seemed to go back to olden periods, samurai culture re-appeared, but in a less militaristic sense. In the 1960s, anime appeared, and it's sense of animation made animating almost anything fairly easy, big boobs included. Japanese culture in the wake of the modern era seemed to have no big cultural strong-points that weren't military related for a long time. Even defeated nations like Germany and Italy had cultural strongpoints that weren't damaged by WWII, like Germany's artistic and scientific achievements and strong sense of discipline and even some militarism against communism, also for east Germany, and Italy had the entirity of the renassaince to hold on to. Japan was the only culture that lost WWII that based it's entirity almost completely on militaristic notions, which was considered taboo in the Post-WWII world.
Basically, Japanese people needed an outlet for their loss of cultural masculinity, enter anime and the sexual revolution, they went together pretty well and now we have this kind of thing today, big bouncing anime boobs (Some of which carried over to the games industry) SERIOUSLY, what OTHER culture could have thought of The Rapeman and made it into a comic and anime series where said rapeman is the HERO(Go look it up, it exists. Yeah I didnt believe it first when I was told either)

So in sumamry: Big Jiggly Boobs in games stems from Japan losing World War II and to some extent America's dropping of the A-bombs. So, let's just blame America for this shall we and move on? HAHAH!

 

[Danceofmasks]

Dude ... it's not the wars that did it to Japan.
Japan did it to Japan ... they have a couple of centuries old saying, "even a goblin is beautiful at 18" and "loving your wife is spoiling your mother's servant"

Not thinking much of women has been a part of Japanese culture for as long as anyone can remember.

 

[Something Amyss]

So yeah, I think it's relevant to talk about. You know what isn't relevant to the discussion? Complaining about people discussing something you had no intention of discussing.

I clicked on the topic with intent to discuss. I commented specifically because I saw that instead of a nuanced topic, someone was knocking down straw men. Questioning the legitimacy of a topic is not the same as complaining, by the way. Please, I understand if you want me to be "on topic," but don't make shit up.

Thanks!

 

[RelexCryo]

Here is a ranting post I made on the subject in another thread:

I am sick and tired of game reviewers and game makers acting as if male heterosexuality is a crime. It is the inherent nature of monosexuals, both homosexuals and hetersexuals, to focus on gender specific traits, and I am tired of people acting like it is a crime against women for men to be attracted to female specific traits.

Being attracted to large breasts, wide hips, long hair, and a padded butt, does not mean you see women as possessions, inferior, or mere sex objects. It means you are attracted to pronounced gender specific traits. And I am tired of that being criminalized. Yes, women have been oppressed for millenia, but no, that does not mean that every accusation of sexism or mysogyny is valid. This idea that heterosexual male attraction to female specific traits is inherently a form of mysogyny is in itself bigoted.

I have seen many game reviewers and game makers say they will stand up against conservatives, and that they will stand up against the oppression of minorities, I have yet to see many say they will oppose discrimination against the majority, or that they will fight against women such as Gloria Steinem who make feminists look bad.

Why is it "sexist" for me to be attracted to gender specific traits? Because it demeans women for men to be monosexual instead of Bisexual? Because it is somehow degrading for us to be attracted to traits that aren't gender neutral? Being attracted to gender specific traits defines both heterosexuality and homosexuality, it defines monosexuality in general. The idea that attraction to gender neutral traits, such as eyes and skin and teeth is acceptable, but that attraction to gender specific traits is wrong, is inherently offensive to monosexuals, as it inherently implies that both heterosexuality and homosexuality are morally wrong.

For crying out loud, why does Square Enix keep reducing Lara Croft's and Tifa Lockhart's Breast sizes?

To be perfectly clear, I support gay rights, and women's rights. But it makes me angry to have game reviewers claim that it is a crime against women for men to be attracted to traits specific to women's bodies. Quite frankly, there seems to be a large number of reviewers advocating the idea that male heterosexuality is inherently a crime, and a significant number of developers who are caving into them. For some reason, these people think that being attracted to gender neutral traits is perfectly fine...but that being attracted to gender specific traits is inherently sexist. This is ultimately offensive to heterosexuals and homosexuals, as attraction to gender specific traits is what defines both.

 

[UnderCoverGuest]

I was going to reply.

Then I saw the million embedded anime videos and fled.

I traveled to the future when such things no longer existed in order to write this reply, far, far away...

On the other hand, big boobs are alright by me for the most part, if they fit the character, but I certainly have limits. I'm not going to respect a character dressed in a catsuit with breasts the size of party-balloons, who claims to be an ultra-intelligent special forces operative with specialization in acrobatics.

 

[FernandoV]

What? People are quitting every game with big beasts? That's what QQing means, not crying.

Anyways, there's nothing wrong with a female character with big breasts if it's done right; real women have small, medium, and big breasts and so can female game characters. There's a wrong way and a right way to do everything, making a character big-breasted solely to sell your game is not the right way.

Wrong. QQ means quit crying.

My qualm with big breasts is the obvious objective behind them. You don't put large breasts on a game character because it defines her; you put it to sell her based on sexual appeal.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

What? People are quitting every game with big beasts? That's what QQing means, not crying.

Anyways, there's nothing wrong with a female character with big breasts if it's done right; real women have small, medium, and big breasts and so can female game characters. There's a wrong way and a right way to do everything, making a character big-breasted solely to sell your game is not the right way.

Wrong. QQ means quit crying.

Contrary to popular belief, QQ is not a set of crying eyes. It actually originated with the advent of Warcraft II. On battlenet, you could press ALT+Q+Q to immediately exit the match and program. Thus the term "QQ" was to tell people to just quit because they are unskilled. The term later developed and lost it's origin and is usually mistaken as crying eyes.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=qq