Surely the big gaming companies should be opposing this? The internet, youtube, E3 is most of thier advertising surely.
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You know that this if it pass (which it won't) will only affect u.s. The U.s goverment doesn't control the world so they can't make it illigal in other countries.
Silly silly politicians....
Don't they know the Internet doesn't work that way?
1. Not every single computer is located in the USA.
2. Not even every single server is located in the USA.
3. Not every single video is traceable back to the RL identity of it's uploader.
4. Not every single uploader lives in the USA.
Unless the next step is to copy China's internet censorship policies there's just no way laws like this are usable in any way or form.
All that will happen is that any minor harmless videos will have a hard time but major videos will just be uploaded in another country where politicians are less stupid, like the north pole or something.
Machinima, Let's Play, Unskippable, MovieBob, Miracle of Sound etc. will survive just fine. All they have to do is send their material to a foreign uploader who isn't bound by this law and problem solved. If they have servers on American soil just rent servers somewhere else, Canada or Mexico or something if you're worried about lag.
I mean seriously, the Internet isn't located inside the US. They have no jurisdiction there, no country has. Only China has jurisdiction over it's Internet because their Internet is basically separated from the rest of the world as much as possible.
Don't they know the Internet doesn't work that way?
1. Not every single computer is located in the USA.
2. Not even every single server is located in the USA.
3. Not every single video is traceable back to the RL identity of it's uploader.
4. Not every single uploader lives in the USA.
Unless the next step is to copy China's internet censorship policies there's just no way laws like this are usable in any way or form.
All that will happen is that any minor harmless videos will have a hard time but major videos will just be uploaded in another country where politicians are less stupid, like the north pole or something.
Machinima, Let's Play, Unskippable, MovieBob, Miracle of Sound etc. will survive just fine. All they have to do is send their material to a foreign uploader who isn't bound by this law and problem solved. If they have servers on American soil just rent servers somewhere else, Canada or Mexico or something if you're worried about lag.
I mean seriously, the Internet isn't located inside the US. They have no jurisdiction there, no country has. Only China has jurisdiction over it's Internet because their Internet is basically separated from the rest of the world as much as possible.
I reckoned at first that interactive is impossible to quantify, because playthroughs can go any way, but Starke already made a good argument against that.Keava said:
Before that 20% seemed like a reasonable compromise to me for other media, like film.
I understand why Hollywood doesn't want us to watch their stuff for free online and I'm saying that as someone who used to pirate everything as a kid, games, film, music. Eventually they'll all go out of business, if nothing happens.
Now suppose you could upload 50% of the movie, then everyone will just watch the first half from one site and then watch the second half from another, with a natural break in between.
Suppose it's only 10% than a film critic may not even be able to show 10 minutes to prove his point.
I figured something in between those to would make the most sense.
Okay, so this would destroy all of the video game shows on youtube and a lot of what we have on the Escapist, Movie Bob would lose his job reviewing movies and talking about random crap, Unskippable would die, and the only way you could make reviews would be if the company said so, so a company like Activision could just tell you to give them a good review. Imagine if Yahtzee had to give a stellar review to Call of Duty: Brown Edition. If I put up a video of me playing Oblivion, I only want to hear "STOP, YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE LAW!" from the guard I inevitably stab, not from the police.
You really think Europe and other countries won't take a cue from America and follow thier example?Gamble1221 said:
Americans won't be allowed to upload anything. No more movie reviews or games reviews, E3 demos. etc from the USA.
I'm British and this concerns me. Youtube is based in California so I'm not sure how they will deal with video's posted on it. It's not in some magical neutral country.
loss of movie reviewers and games reviewers aswell.
I'm guessing if it passes then gaming companies that still want YT exposure will just update the TOS.
This is actually quite old, and has been covered in a few other places which have all agreed that it won`t even make it to be reviewed as a potential law because it`s a direct breach of first amendment right to free speech over the internet. Besides, most let`s plays and livestreams have commentators meaning that it`s technically a "review" which exempts users from copyright issues.
Ive tweeted and Facepaged about this and poked American friends on Skype and some other forums I guess as a Brit thats all I can do :<
No strategy vids for wow!
Ha ha yeah didn't even think of that,waive said:
No strategy vids for wow!
Damn fascists!
why can't we all just be friends and stop hating on people that post videoes of stuff that other people created, becasue they want to share it to the world becasue of how much they enjoyed it.
Congrats for trying to ban the good spirited action of sharing happiness =)
why can't we all just be friends and stop hating on people that post videoes of stuff that other people created, becasue they want to share it to the world becasue of how much they enjoyed it.
Congrats for trying to ban the good spirited action of sharing happiness =)
I don't give a flying fuck since they can't enforce that law anywhere outside the US. Still, it won't pass. No one is willing to deal with all the public backlash that a bill like this would create.
I wonder how this would affect sites like GameTrailers or review sites like IGN or Gamespot. You can't do a video-review without gameplay footage. Although big sites might have sufficient legal resources to keep running, it's the little guys that get shafted.
Also, if it's a US bill, how does this affect the rest of the world? Surely they can't push criminal charges against non-US residents.
Also, if it's a US bill, how does this affect the rest of the world? Surely they can't push criminal charges against non-US residents.
It amazes me that we actually live in a time when saying this makes sense. The 20th centory being the past? Difficult to comprehend.kebab4you said: