EDIT: Damn, I had no idea this post was going to be this long. Sorry to all of you who read it, but on the other hand, I did have a lot to say.
Phoenixmgs said:
1) I don't get how anyone can prove that Bioshock Infinite doesn't make sense.
2) Since you can't prove unequivocally that the story has a hole, why would then want the plot to have holes? Just to have an objective (instead of subjective) reason to not like the plot?
It seems like people are just wanting to not like the ending, and then coming up with their own made up plot holes to "prove" the story has holes just to contrive a reason that the story is factually bad. Why try to prove the story doesn't work when you can just as easily prove it does work all while getting even more enjoyment out of your $60? The people showing ways in which the story does work itself out are using logic and using math to demonstrate what infinities are.
Okay, a few things. First, Bioshock 1. I am in the camp of people for whom the journey matters more than the destination. I enjoyed Bioshock 1, despite what plotholes it may have had, because I did not predict what was going to happen. Most of the plotholes you described didn't occur to me, and there were plausible explanations behind most of them (i.e. Fontaine didn't think the plan through very well, or had other information that made him believe it would. WHOLLY plausible, considering where the plot goes).
Bioshock Infinite, on the other hand, has a plot cobbled together from sci-fi tropes, and once you catch your first one, your mind leaps to all the others. I figured out that some level of time shenanigans was going on in the first minute, with the whole "He doesn't row?" "No, he DOESN'T row?" shindig - I loved it, but I then immediately started making predictions. I knew about Elizabeth's tears, so all the alternate reality stuff was on the table. Prediction #1 for time travel/alternate reality stuff - The bad guy is alternate/future/alternate future you. Prediction #1-a - You will have to kill yourself to stop your alternate/future/alternate future self from doing terrible things.
In other words, in the first 5 minutes, I had a prediction of the most cliched ending I could possibly imagine, and kept waiting on bated breath for the events of the plot to rule it out. And I waited through the first level, and second level, and the whole damn game, and finally, when you reach the point where Elizabeth tells you that, yes, Comstock is alternate you... gah, most disappointed I've been with a game for a while - definitely more than Mass Effect 3 - that's a jarring halt to a fun roller coaster, Infinite was like opening a really promising looking Christmas present and finding
Oh, and then to make things worse, the ending makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. I'm not TOTALLY clear on it, because the rules for the whole multiverse schtick haven't been established, but from what I can tell, they took you back, before you diverged into Comstock, and killed you so that you could never become him and make her end the world.
There's a few problems with that, an even if I haven't got the specifics right on the scenario, I suspect that some of these counter-arguments should hold up. Firstly - If Booker DeWitt/Comstock never exists in any universe past that point, then Elizabeth should never exist in any universe past that either, thus being unable to be there to kill you, thus creating a paradox.
More compellingly, if we are dealing with an INFINITE (as the name would imply) multiverse, then there exists a multiverse reflecting each possible outcome of each event. In fact, there are an INFINITE number of multiverses for each possible outcome of each event. In other words, there will ALWAYS be and INFINITE number of universes in which the army of Elizabeths decides against/fails to drown Booker after going back in time, thus DEFEATING THE POINT OF DROWNING HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. In fact, by making the decision to kill Booker, Elizabeth is responsible for the creation of INFINITE MULTIVERSES where Comstock goes on to torture alternate-her. She's just making it worse.
One counter to that would be that perhaps there are a finite number of multiverses - but then Elizabeth should have just taken Good Booker to each of the Comstock Universes and had him kill Comstock there, thus solving the problem without killing Good Booker.
Or, you know, maybe Elizabeth could have just opened a tear to a gun store, grabbed a Thompson, and then made another tear to all the Comstock universes and filled him with a hail of bullets herself, being omnipresent and all.