yeh Bioware story telling, characters and romanceable party members\companions + Bethesda RPG and open world = win!
Bioware + Bethesda: Best Game Ever?
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I haven't played a single Bioware RPG, so I don't know. I have played most of Bethesda's stuff though (Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 [New Vegas doesn't count, guys])
I feel like a union between the two could either result in an awesome game, or a really terrible game. Bethesda are usually perfectionists when it comes to world design, so I don't know if having to work with another company would interfere with that.
I feel like a union between the two could either result in an awesome game, or a really terrible game. Bethesda are usually perfectionists when it comes to world design, so I don't know if having to work with another company would interfere with that.
No. Just no. Neither Bethesda nor Bioware are the best developers in the world and even if they were there's no guarantee that a game spawned by their cooperation would even be good.
Also who's to say what the "best game" is? I assume you're thinking of an RPG but why the hell is that supposed to be better than any of the other genres out there?
Also who's to say what the "best game" is? I assume you're thinking of an RPG but why the hell is that supposed to be better than any of the other genres out there?
Yeah I think we're in the minority here. I also like Bethesda's stories (note the plural, people, THE PLURAL!)Sizzle Montyjing said:
What Bethesda is amazing at, story-wise, is episodic story-based games. What I mean is, they're awesome at quest-story design. Fallout 3 is going to be my main example.
But even the main story lines aren't really that weak. I loved Oblivion's main story line and Morrowind's even more. Fallout 3's main story line was weak, yeah...
It wouldn't work for many reasons. For instance, Bethesda games go for quantity over quality. It would be impossible to create one of their huge open worlds with as much detail and polish as Bioware puts into their games. And obviously they would never want to team up.
Haha, that made me laugh pretty hard. Nicely done.poppabaggins said:This seems appropriate:
OT: this is the kind of thing that sounds awesome when you first hear about it, but as soon as you start thinking about the idea, it becomes clear that it'll never work. Even in a hypothetical scenario where the two companies decide to split duties, the game is gonna be crap because the little jigsaw that build the final product up are not gonna fit together.
Bioware is too cliche for me. NO-ONE in the whole world would act or react the way NPC's do in mass effect. and there's so much pointless dialogue.
I mean... I just HATE the bioware dialogue. Maybe thats just me, but so damn cliche and stupid.
Bethesda is alot more realistic in that regard. And did I mention opwn world ?
Nah, I dont think bioware should meddle with bethesda, in my eyes that would ruin bethesda.
I mean... I just HATE the bioware dialogue. Maybe thats just me, but so damn cliche and stupid.
Bethesda is alot more realistic in that regard. And did I mention opwn world ?
Nah, I dont think bioware should meddle with bethesda, in my eyes that would ruin bethesda.
I agree with this exactly.poiumty said:
I would love to have seen an Interplay/Black Isle Studios release of Fallout 3. Our Fallout 3 was exactly as you described it, Oblivion set in a Mad Max universe with Guns.
Bethesda has always been a one trick pony for me. I never adored their triple A titles, and I don't like their lesser known titles. After Oblivion became such a success, every successful game they released used the same engine. I'm not sure what engine Brink used but I couldn't stand that game for more than the 1 or 2 hours I played it. It's not that Bethesda games are bad, they are actually pretty decent. It's just that for me, the experience is pretty bland and repetitive.
Bioware has their strengths (debatably far more than Bethesda) but they aren't perfect either. I would say that both companies possess the same strengths or similar strengths, so should they ever combine efforts, the end product might be indistinguishable from the average Bethesda or Bioware release. There might be small percs that only the most adamant of fans would be able to pick up, but nothing huge I would imagine.
A more interesting combination would be Bioware and Valve. I would LOVE to see what could result from that.
I don't like Bioware. They make crap just as often as they make anything good. Yes Mass Effect is great, I get that. But compared to the level of quality produced by other developers, it seems like Bioware doesn't deserve the hype it gets on this forum. How many Dragon Ages and KOTOR onlines will it take to wake people up?
BioWare is one of the few companies that is known for polish and quality assurance.
Bethesda is notorious for failing to polish their games or quality assurance.
The two forming into one game would result in the same reaction as when any matter meets anti-matter. Total annihilation of both entities, combined with an explosion of photons.
Think of the photons.
Bethesda is notorious for failing to polish their games or quality assurance.
The two forming into one game would result in the same reaction as when any matter meets anti-matter. Total annihilation of both entities, combined with an explosion of photons.
Think of the photons.
Dude, go play KotOR and DragonAge: Origins right NAO! They are too good to miss out out, and KotOR has aged quite well in my opinion.zehydra said:
It's not the RPG aspect, but the open world aspect in which you can decide the fate of the entire area from a list of dozens of possibilities. It isn't simply "I decide the NCR wins", or "Should I just give into the Reapers and let them wipe out the galaxy". You'd have an open world, with awesome characters that grow and develop throughout the story, and be able to not only decide WHO wins, but HOW they win . . whether they take over the area through hegemony, or bring together the factions through peace, or if they only temporarily ally themselves against the external threat . . . it would bring new meaning to the word "sandbox", you can mold the entire area so much it actually LOOKS different by the end of the story.88chaz88 said:
It'd be as close to a real life epic story as you could get with our current technology.
Not anymore, because BioWare is waving RPG's a farewell which people still like to deny but maybe it's time to smell the coffee.
But BioWare of old plus new Bethesda could produce something incredibly sweet, if we get the open world to explore with a polished and compact story with all the dialogue and ambiguous moral choices... just thinking about it gives me a chubby.
However a game like that would cost 5x more then the average triple A title, and it would maybe earn them half the money back, no publisher in the world would agree to something like that... ok maybe Valve but then we wouldn't see the end product for ten thousand years.
But BioWare of old plus new Bethesda could produce something incredibly sweet, if we get the open world to explore with a polished and compact story with all the dialogue and ambiguous moral choices... just thinking about it gives me a chubby.
However a game like that would cost 5x more then the average triple A title, and it would maybe earn them half the money back, no publisher in the world would agree to something like that... ok maybe Valve but then we wouldn't see the end product for ten thousand years.
Or a Fallout\Elder Scrolls game with dynamic companions that you can get attached to . . and eyes that don't make them look like zombies.Kurai Angelo said:
DragonAge: Origins was a critically acclaimed game in nearly every respect, having a 91 on metacritic for PC. I understand DA2 wasn't quite as good, but it still wasn't bad.grimgor42 said:
And we can't judge KotOR online until it comes out.
Bioware and Bethesda are hit-or-miss studios, I couldn't trust either to produce consistently good games. So it could be good (Oblivion), Terrible (DA2), or amazing (Morrowind/DA: Origins).
I'd rather see an offering from CD projekt red, obsidian and valve. Dream game.
I'd rather see an offering from CD projekt red, obsidian and valve. Dream game.