Bioware Employee caught reviewing Dragon Age 2

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Logarithmic Limbo

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I have for ages boycotted everything from EA, Atari (new atari, the only in name atari, not old skool atari) and everything even remotely connected to Sony and SecuROM. I do not like how they do their business, I do not like how they treat their paying customers, I do not like how they purposefully and consequently shy away from good ethics and trample all over local laws and consumer rights. I choose to spend my money somewhere else.
 

joshthor

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who cares. dragon age 2 was a good game. not fantastic but good (just beat it) i would give it an 8.5ish. most the people on metacritic ranking this game are trolls that didnt even play it. why not have the opposite on there?
 

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godofallu said:
The way Bioware is acting lately is just evil. I mean let's be honest, a lot of major reviewers accept bribes to some degree. Everyone knows that. Messing with user score though, that's fucked up. Metacritic user scores is one of the best ways to tell how good a title actually is.
it isnt the case with dragon age 2 though. they improved alot of things. just a bunch of bioware "fans" being whiny that its not dragon age origins
 

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gold_digger22 said:
Is it just me or is Bioware really being aggressive on marketing their games, via television, comic books, toy figures, an upcoming web show, all this unlockable items mumbo jumbo, dlc, etc. Too much or no?
This is a bit too much, it must be the evil influence of EA!
 

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One employee acting on his own prerogative =/= all Bioware is corrupt.

Quit blowing things out of proportion.
 

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MetallicaRulez0 said:
Plenty of people, myself included, love Dragon Age 2. Most of the bad reviews are PC elitists who wouldn't admit a game being good if it's also good on consoles.
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Hey man don't troll on PC gamers like that. I'm one and I still play games that are a PC on my Xbox. Some games play better on an Xbox and others play better on a PC. I personally think Dragon age 2 is great on PC and I've heard its great on the PS3. We don't need to start a war on what platforms better, thats called immaturity. Like people who fight over who's yugioh deck is better.

I still love bioware regardless of the difference from origins. To me DA2 is better.
 

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I kinda feel like this isn't something we should be too pissed off about, I mean come on! This is Metacritic! Most of the user-reviews are from people who haven't even played the game; they are just outraged that Bioware tried something different. So I guess a Bioware employee tried to make ONE good user-review (even if it sounds like something a bad advertisement would say).
 

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Gennadios said:
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Wow.
Was Dragon Age 2 that bad? I thought it was just /v/ being bored.
It's not; I think it's quite good. The problem is it has a very different focus from Origins, so the people who loved that game feel betrayed by BioWare.

While BioWare isn't at fault for deciding to move in a different direction with their franchise (it is theirs after all), they need to accept that in changing direction you're gonna piss off some fans, not try tricking them into liking the new game. I love BioWare and want to overlook this, but it is just so {i]low[/i].
Out of curiosity, have you beaten this game? I don't mind the streamlined combat or simplified inventory at all. I actually loved the majority of the game.

It's not until endgame do you realize just how much of a rushed mess this game is. The story is weak as s***, character motivations completely break down into nonesense, and there isn't a single faction at the end game that you can side with that feels at all reasonable.

I don't want to give too much away, but this game doesn't deserve the 85 it's gotten on metacritic. 60 is alot more in line.
I actually beat it and enjoyed the hell out of it. I enjoyed when choices I made(which I thought were right) come back and bit me in the ass. I just got swept up in the plot, which may have lead me to ignore some faults. But overall I think the game is great. And have you given the thought that perhaps there is actually no "righteous" faction to choose. That nothing is black and white.

OT: It's disappointing to see that this occurred. The game does not deserve the flak that it's been getting though.
 

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voetballeeuw said:
Gennadios said:
theComposer said:
Taxman1 said:
Wow.
Was Dragon Age 2 that bad? I thought it was just /v/ being bored.
It's not; I think it's quite good. The problem is it has a very different focus from Origins, so the people who loved that game feel betrayed by BioWare.

While BioWare isn't at fault for deciding to move in a different direction with their franchise (it is theirs after all), they need to accept that in changing direction you're gonna piss off some fans, not try tricking them into liking the new game. I love BioWare and want to overlook this, but it is just so {i]low[/i].
Out of curiosity, have you beaten this game? I don't mind the streamlined combat or simplified inventory at all. I actually loved the majority of the game.

It's not until endgame do you realize just how much of a rushed mess this game is. The story is weak as s***, character motivations completely break down into nonesense, and there isn't a single faction at the end game that you can side with that feels at all reasonable.

I don't want to give too much away, but this game doesn't deserve the 85 it's gotten on metacritic. 60 is alot more in line.
I actually beat it and enjoyed the hell out of it. I enjoyed when choices I made(which I thought were right) come back and bit me in the ass. I just got swept up in the plot, which may have lead me to ignore some faults. But overall I think the game is great. And have you given the thought that perhaps there is actually no "righteous" faction to choose. That nothing is black and white.

OT: It's disappointing to see that this occurred. The game does not deserve the flak that it's been getting though.
Have you considered that none of the "choices" you made that bit you in the ass were really choices? Anders would do what he did whether you helped him or not, he'd just leave your party for the rest of the game if you hadn't. Same with Isabella.

And how about the fact that you have to fight the heads of BOTH factions? The first enchanter and the head Templar. The side you didn't join with is justified in going hostile, but when you side with the Mages, are holding off wave after wave of templar with no problem, and all of a sudden Orzo goes batshit, uses blood magic, and traps and attacks your party (his allies) for no good reason, that's crap. You end up fighting both factions no matter the side you take because the developers didn't have a good enough story design to allow for meaningful choices.

In all honesty, getting through the end game with certain choices leaves fewer glaring plot holes than others, so a significant chunk of players may have taken the path that would make the whole game seem solid. I wasn't one of those players, and I wasn't happy with what I had to work with.

Overall, I really wish the game just gave me a "F*** you all, I'm moving back to Ferelden" option. They kind of tease you with it but don't really let you take it. In hindsight, doing it wouldn't have changed much, the end result would have been exactly the same. It would have just saved the player game an hour of unnecessary combat.
 

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"The immersion and combat of this game are unmatched! A truly moving and fun epic. Anything negative you'll see about this game is an overreaction of personal preference. For what it is, it is flawlessly executed and endlessly entertaining."

Wow that is just low, atleast give ti a fair shake if you do review your own game, then again people wont ever see their own creations as anything but perfect.
Didn't think Bioware would result to such methods, but it is EA at the helm so I really can't say it's unexpected, just a matter of time.
 

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MetallicaRulez0 said:
Plenty of people, myself included, love Dragon Age 2. Most of the bad reviews are PC elitists who wouldn't admit a game being good if it's also good on consoles.
From what I've seen, it's much less console hate and more the fact that it's a clearly console-focused sequel to a game meant as a love-letter to old school PC RPGs.

The whole game took all of the throwbacks to the old school Baldur's Gate style RPGs and threw them out the window, and the people who liked Dragon Age: Origins because of said throwbacks (which was most of them) are... aggravated by it.

It's understandable, in a way. I'm mildly annoyed by the transition myself. I would have much preferred a copy-paste of dragon age with a new setting/story. As it is, it's just kinda meh. Definitely not bad, and I quite like the new characters and story (though the ending was a kick in the nuts), but the grand total of 3 dungeon maps, the lack of anything even vaguely approaching DA:O's interaction with party members, and the mind-boggling lack of the isometric camera definitely take it down a couple of pegs.

There's a lot of legitimate complaints about DA2, there's no way to truthfully argue otherwise. They made a number of improvements over the original, but for every improvement there was at least one other element they made worse.
 

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MetallicaRulez0 said:
Plenty of people, myself included, love Dragon Age 2. Most of the bad reviews are PC elitists who wouldn't admit a game being good if it's also good on consoles.
I said it was good, and I am one of those PC exclusive gamer people!

(Though not an elitist! :eek:)
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Johnnyallstar said:
I wouldn't say they're the only ones, but this does put the first signs of blemish on my vision of Bioware. They are no longer pristine in my eyes.

Who's left?.....


nothing but a barren wasteland....

sorrow.
What about Valve?


Oh wait.
I'd just like to say that though they are much smaller and now owned by a larger company in Japan, Atlus/Atlus U.S.A not only plays with their fanbase as well as listens to them, but I haven't heard anything shysty or fucked up going on with them.
They playfully tease their fans and give them what they want (within reason), are known for being the best at pre-order exclusives, and hire some of the best professional voice actors in the business.

1. Catherine (PS3/360) was said to not be coming over seas. Next day Atlus sends their fans, the "Atlus Faithful" a message in pink asking "Do you still like us?" Three days later (or so) Atlus sends their fans a cheeky message saying "Cat's out of the bag. Catherine coming this summer".
2. The fans who've been keeping track have been asking (and some pleading) Atlus to hire Laura Bailey and Troy Baker to voice two of the three main characters in the game. In response to this, do you know who they hire? Laura Bailey and Troy Baker. They actually ARE in tune to their fans. Sometimes they're so in tune they get fresh with us (you tricked me! ...but yay =3). But no matter what they aren't Rockstar, Valve, Bioware/EA, Activision, etc.

I'm a huge Atlus fan because they've earned it since I was a kid. I can definately say, unless there's proof of Atlus mass firing devs (Rockstar) or talking shit to their consumers and not knowing what an RPG is (Bioware Mods and Bioware Senior producer), I will always love Atlus.
*On a lesser note, Sega seems to have taken a page from their book and listened to their fans too with Yakuza 4. Virtually no cuts (aside from a Q&A gameshow that just had a bunch of pictures and something else. Majong is there and such) and a bunch of new-game buyer friendliness such as free DLC with costumes and things.
 

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maybe he was only employed to wipe off the company's computer monitors and the only bias he has is that he's just a big fan of the game or something? lol idk, but honestly unless he was a head designer and really benefited directly from reviews/sales, what's to say he isn't any less credible than other reviewers on the Internet (well okay besides the conflict of interest that is still there but ya made my point haha)
 

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dancinginfernal said:
Uh...I don't get it.

One employee writes a review, and apparently the whole company is to blame? Show me some 50% of Bioware's employees doing this and I'll care, but one?

This is a bit silly.
Exactly, especially since it was just a user review for metacritic not posed as a professional review. Once again I have to say people are massively overreacting.