Bioware forums explode as Mass Effect 3 ending details are leaked. *MINOR SPOILERS*

[infohippie]

Ehh... Glad I decided not to preorder and wait for a price drop before I buy ME3. If I buy it at all. Bioware's writing has been going downhill for years, the last good storyline they wrote was ME1. And even then, I've not been able to bring myself to care about any characters beyond Joker, Liara, and Tali. I might still pick it up, but for me the canon Mass Effect plot ended with the destruction of Sovereign.

 

[SajuukKhar]

I don't really see what people expected from the ending.

It is exactly what I thought it was gonna be.

The entire message of the game is self-sacrifice so that others can live.

 

[boag]

My Main problem with the Game is the fact that no matter what you do or what happens.

My Shep will not be with mai waifu /joke

Spoiler

Galactic Civilization gets fucked over in all 3 of the endings, I wish they would have at least the Control Ending keep the fucking Relays functional, but if the leaks are true and all signs point to yes, then whole Galaxy gets fucked over until someone develops a way to travel between systems again.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Spoiler

Keeping the relays/Citadel working

Would destroy the whole point of the game. It must be obtained on each races own terms,

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using the reapers tech regardless if they are alive are not

makes the races learn nothing.

which leads us to th series 2nd biggest point, Self-determination.

 

[DirgeNovak]

[DISCLAIMER: I have not read nor will I read the actual spoilers, I only read the OP]
I don't want a strictly happy ending anyway. To me the best endings are either bittersweet (like Infamous 2's good ending or Final Fantasy X if you pretend FFX-2 never happened) or straight up depressing (like Dexter seasons four and five or Heavy Rain if you fail to save Shaun). Those endings leave a mark on you and you remember them forever.

If my Mass Effect 3 ends in a similar way, I'll be very happy. If the game doesn't allow you to have a perfectly happy ending, I will respect BioWare a lot for it. You can't tell a story like this without any heartbreak.

 

[Xpheyel]

Spoiler

Keeping the relays/Citadel working

Would destroy the whole point of the game. It must be obtained on each races own terms,

Spoiler

using the reapers tech regardless if they are alive are not

makes the races learn nothing.

which leads us to th series 2nd biggest point, Self-determination.

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One guy deciding to destroy critical infrastructure technology throughout the galaxy and potentially right after forcibly merging all organic and machine life equals self determination?

Yeah ok.

IMO the problem is the space magic box that even makes those endings possible. A dark or even bitterseet ending would be one where there is no space magic box than can fix/screw up everything permanently.

 

[Omnific One]

[DISCLAIMER: I have not read nor will I read the actual spoilers, I only read the OP]
I don't want a strictly happy ending anyway. To me the best endings are either bittersweet (like Infamous 2's good ending or Final Fantasy X if you pretend FFX-2 never happened) or straight up depressing (like Dexter seasons four and five or Heavy Rain if you fail to save Shaun). Those endings leave a mark on you and you remember them forever.

If my Mass Effect 3 ends in a similar way, I'll be very happy. If the game doesn't allow you to have a perfectly happy ending, I will respect BioWare a lot for it. You can't tell a story like this without any heartbreak.

It's not bittersweet; they are bitter. All of them.

 

[boag]

[DISCLAIMER: I have not read nor will I read the actual spoilers, I only read the OP]
I don't want a strictly happy ending anyway. To me the best endings are either bittersweet (like Infamous 2's good ending or Final Fantasy X if you pretend FFX-2 never happened) or straight up depressing (like Dexter seasons four and five or Heavy Rain if you fail to save Shaun). Those endings leave a mark on you and you remember them forever.

If my Mass Effect 3 ends in a similar way, I'll be very happy. If the game doesn't allow you to have a perfectly happy ending, I will respect BioWare a lot for it. You can't tell a story like this without any heartbreak.

It's not bittersweet; they are bitter. All of them.

Generalizations are bad, stop using them.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Spoiler

Keeping the relays/Citadel working

Would destroy the whole point of the game. It must be obtained on each races own terms,

Spoiler

using the reapers tech regardless if they are alive are not

makes the races learn nothing.

which leads us to th series 2nd biggest point, Self-determination.

Spoiler

One guy deciding to destroy critical infrastructure technology throughout the galaxy and potentially right after forcibly merging all organic and machine life equals self determination?

Yeah ok.

Spoiler

One person destroying a system of infrastructure designed to make the races ignorant and dependent on a specific path of technology, and in doing so freeing them to make something BETTER for themselves, is self-determination

 

[survivor686]

Dammit, I just had to read it... If this is fake, props to troll.

 

[him over there]

oh geez so I looked over at the Bioware forums and all I have to say is Meanwhile at Bioware:
But seriously guys who plays Mass effect for the story am I right?

 

[DirgeNovak]

[DISCLAIMER: I have not read nor will I read the actual spoilers, I only read the OP]
I don't want a strictly happy ending anyway. To me the best endings are either bittersweet (like Infamous 2's good ending or Final Fantasy X if you pretend FFX-2 never happened) or straight up depressing (like Dexter seasons four and five or Heavy Rain if you fail to save Shaun). Those endings leave a mark on you and you remember them forever.

If my Mass Effect 3 ends in a similar way, I'll be very happy. If the game doesn't allow you to have a perfectly happy ending, I will respect BioWare a lot for it. You can't tell a story like this without any heartbreak.

It's not bittersweet; they are bitter. All of them.

Even better. Did you play Heavy Rain? I barely remember what happens in the happy endings. I will never forget the sad ones. They're powerful stuff. Metal Gear Solid 3 also comes to mind.

I agree it's not exactly the smartest move to not allow happy endings at all for those who want them, especially with the "there is no canon, tell your own story" thing about ME, but I maintain that this story cannot end perfectly well.

 

[Xpheyel]

*Snip*

Spoiler

One person destroying a system of infrastructure designed to make the races ignorant and dependent on a specific path of technology, and in doing so freeing them to make something BETTER for themselves, is self-determination

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Actually I'm pretty sure that's just telling them you know whats best and taking what they have away so they can try to figure out something else if it's even possible. Wouldn't self determination be the races (or individuals) in question deciding whether or not to use a piece of technology for themselves regardless of its origins?

Also, kinda glossing over the "becoming a nanotechnology ridden cyborg is now mandatory for all biological life" aspect of the "Synergy" ending aren't you?

 

[Omnific One]

[DISCLAIMER: I have not read nor will I read the actual spoilers, I only read the OP]
I don't want a strictly happy ending anyway. To me the best endings are either bittersweet (like Infamous 2's good ending or Final Fantasy X if you pretend FFX-2 never happened) or straight up depressing (like Dexter seasons four and five or Heavy Rain if you fail to save Shaun). Those endings leave a mark on you and you remember them forever.

If my Mass Effect 3 ends in a similar way, I'll be very happy. If the game doesn't allow you to have a perfectly happy ending, I will respect BioWare a lot for it. You can't tell a story like this without any heartbreak.

It's not bittersweet; they are bitter. All of them.

Generalizations are bad, stop using them.

[DISCLAIMER: I have not read nor will I read the actual spoilers, I only read the OP]
I don't want a strictly happy ending anyway. To me the best endings are either bittersweet (like Infamous 2's good ending or Final Fantasy X if you pretend FFX-2 never happened) or straight up depressing (like Dexter seasons four and five or Heavy Rain if you fail to save Shaun). Those endings leave a mark on you and you remember them forever.

If my Mass Effect 3 ends in a similar way, I'll be very happy. If the game doesn't allow you to have a perfectly happy ending, I will respect BioWare a lot for it. You can't tell a story like this without any heartbreak.

It's not bittersweet; they are bitter. All of them.

You clearly don't know what the term bittersweet means.


As far as I'm concerned, any ending that doesn't involve my matter being pumped through tubes and used to make a giant death machine is "sweet" to me.

Have either of you read the ending spoilers? I don't know what your definition of sweet is, but there is nothing in there that is sweet. Well, except saving the galaxy, which we all knew was going to happen.

 

[DirgeNovak]

Ah, shit. I read part of it. So about the whole

Spoiler

"The mass relays have to go"

thing, I fucking love the idea. This has impact, this has a long-lasting effect on the game universe, this makes the characters learn new things. Isn't that the whole point of storytelling?

 

[Quellist]

But seriously guys who plays Mass effect for the story am I right?

Oldschool Bioware fans, well those who unlike me, can put up with the crappy FPS the series became anyway.

 

[Omnific One]

[DISCLAIMER: I have not read nor will I read the actual spoilers, I only read the OP]
I don't want a strictly happy ending anyway. To me the best endings are either bittersweet (like Infamous 2's good ending or Final Fantasy X if you pretend FFX-2 never happened) or straight up depressing (like Dexter seasons four and five or Heavy Rain if you fail to save Shaun). Those endings leave a mark on you and you remember them forever.

If my Mass Effect 3 ends in a similar way, I'll be very happy. If the game doesn't allow you to have a perfectly happy ending, I will respect BioWare a lot for it. You can't tell a story like this without any heartbreak.

It's not bittersweet; they are bitter. All of them.

Even better. Did you play Heavy Rain? I barely remember what happens in the happy endings. I will never forget the sad ones. They're powerful stuff. Metal Gear Solid 3 also comes to mind.

I agree it's not exactly the smartest move to not allow happy endings at all for those who want them, especially with the "there is no canon, tell your own story" thing about ME, but I maintain that this story cannot end perfectly well.

One game that last less than 10 or so hours (I don't know) versus over 100 hours over 3 games over 5 years? Big difference, buddy.

 

[him over there]

But seriously guys who plays Mass effect for the story am I right?

Oldschool Bioware fans, well those who unlike me, can put up with the crappy FPS the series became anyway.

I'm hoping you knew it was a joke and I was joking. Otherwise this place is getting way to serious.