BioWare talks about the next Dragon Age.

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Sonic Doctor

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Archraven said:
For the record I played DA:2 on 360 so outside of the combat being to easy I didn't find it that much different from Origins.
Actually there was big difference between the combat systems in DA:O and DA2. That difference is the basic attack. The only thing the player in DA:O had control over was special attacks; the player doesn't have control over the basic attack, which is stupid because the speed of that auto basic attack was slower than a turtle trapped in tar. DA2's combat was made universes better just by removing the auto basic attack, which allows the player to actually attack quickly between power recharges. The player can get five times as many basic attacks in with DA2's combat system, compared to DA:O's slow auto system.

I would say that the reason you found DA2 to have easier combat was because it gave you more control and allowed you to attack faster. Basically, they gave people what they should have had in DA:O.

DA:O(Slow recharge special powers, with slow slow slow auto basic attack)

DA2(Not as slow recharge special powers, and awesomely fast player controlled basic attack)
 

David Bjur

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hazabaza1 said:
I love how the youtube comments signify that anyone who likes a Bioware game is a Biodrone and should die in a fire.
Your profile picture fits perfectly with your sarcasm my good sir! (from what I've seen you tend to be sarcastic)
OT: And yes, considering what I've heard, I'll just keep my money until they show off something really interesting. Like, trolls.
 

hazabaza1

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David Bjur said:
hazabaza1 said:
I love how the youtube comments signify that anyone who likes a Bioware game is a Biodrone and should die in a fire.
Your profile picture fits perfectly with your sarcasm my good sir! (from what I've seen you tend to be sarcastic)
Well I do actually love these comments. It just shows how both sides can be stupid and unreasonable.
But I an generally British sarcastic, yes.
 

David Bjur

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hazabaza1 said:
David Bjur said:
hazabaza1 said:
I love how the youtube comments signify that anyone who likes a Bioware game is a Biodrone and should die in a fire.
Your profile picture fits perfectly with your sarcasm my good sir! (from what I've seen you tend to be sarcastic)
Well I do actually love these comments. It just shows how both sides can be stupid and unreasonable.
But I an generally British sarcastic, yes.
Well, keep up the good work "NOOOOOOO!" guy!
 

SajuukKhar

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Anthraxus said:
The interesting thing about Baldur's Gate, but especially BG2, is how critical reaction and fan reaction completely went apeshit for the storyline, writing, and other "emotional engagement" while ignoring a lot of the more "gamey" aspects, which is where the game really shined. It's like people played the games, enjoyed the fun interpretation of D&D, crawled around in some fun dungeons, fought some well-crafted encounters, and then when going to express their opinions they gushed praise for plot, setting, and characters that were pretty decent at times but cringe-worthy a little too often . And the Bioware head honchos took this to heart, catering to those people. I mean, Neverwinter Nights didn't have time to design anything better than one of the shittiest campaigns ever, but they sure had time to write in plenty of elvish waifu shit , and I even recall a lot of praise being given for this. Then with KOTOR, Bioware fully embraced their Westernized dating sim and started headlong down the road to swooping, ass pirates, slutty witches, and gay guido buttfucking. The "public" got exactly what they clamored for, and everyone else got shafted. (and continues to)
I really can't tell if you belive what your saying anymore.

NWN had a great campagin, and what Elf waifu shit are you talking about?

I can't tell if this is an elaborate troll or you really are that displaced form reality.
 

MatsVS

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LittleBlondeGoth said:
I'll do what I normally do, really. Check it out as it goes and if it looks good, I'll buy it. No point putting cart before horse, is there? :)
Pfft, that's what I tell myself every time there's a larger title I am looking forward to on the horizon, yet somehow I always seem to end up with pre-orders, collector's editions, digital versions for instant access, etc.

Honestly, I've long since given up on me ever exercising any kind of restraint when it comes to these things and I doubt the next Dragon Age will be any different. :\
 

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Here's an idea for BioWare. Why don't they just say nothing about DA3. At all. During development. No insights, no hype building, no 'the game is going to be "this"' that the fans can later jump on and say 'you lied to us BioWare, face our wrath!'

What happened to things just coming out of nowhere? What is the point of buying a product when you know every detail about it months before release? Ease up on the frigging advertising (y'know, pour that money into the game, whatever) and just let it be its own thing.

Just a thought.
 

JakeNubbin

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Sweet! I loved Dragon Age 2, and it seems like they're fixing the re-used levels that apparently made every single other person on the planet stab themselves! Or maybe Bioware will listen to their fans again and make it more like Dragon Age Origins and have it never ever get to the fucking point and have shitty combat. Am I the only person who liked Dragon Age II? Im not a biobot, i mean all their games have a flaw or two but that doesn't make every single aspect and capability of each and every one of their games completely intolerable. Jesus Christ have i ever seen so much hate that was so undeserved. One site called it worst game of the year!! I cant fucking believe this shit, yeah this game was totally worse than fucking The Cartel. My god, its not like Origins was a godsend, it wasnt the end-all cure-all for video games.
 

SajuukKhar

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Anthraxus said:
"NWN had a great campaign"

Wow. And your saying I'm the one dispatched from reality. Now I truly realize how shitty your taste in rpgs is.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/neverwinter-nights
Yep because that 91 critic score and 8.0 user score is obviously indicative of a bad game.

NWN is held up as one of the greatest RPGs ever made along with BG, Kotor 1, Icewind Dale, and Fallout 1.

Seriously you are the worst and most insane type of purist I have ever met.
 

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SajuukKhar said:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/neverwinter-nights
Yep because that 91 critic score and 8.0 user score is obviously indicative of a bad game.

NWN is held up as one of the greatest RPGs ever made along with BG, Kotor 1, and Icewind Dale.

Seriously you are the worst and most insane type of purist I have ever met.
The original Neverwinter Nights is mostly hailed for its great toolset. It was generally agreed amongst fans, back when the games were released that the original campaign was lacklustre, while Shadows of Undrentide was a bit better and Hordes of Underdark was really quite good.

It's too bad that they closed down the old Interplay forums were closed down, where all this was well documented.
 

SajuukKhar

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Anthraxus said:
I could give a fuck about what metacritic or some other bs mainstream review sites gives it. BG and IWD were def good but in KotoR they really dumbed down the gameplay (combat was way too easy and a total snoozefest) and that's when they fully embraced their "emotional engagements"

NWN OC was TERRIBLE. HotU was def a big improvement, but let's be real, the rpg fans know the best part about NWN was the user created content and online MP.
By RPG fans do you mean the tons of people who enjoyed the game?

Or everyone who shares the same close minded antiqued definition of a RPG, that is funnily enough contradicted by the actual definition of a RPG, that you have?

Because everyone I know who modded and played the MP also loved the SP section.
 

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ravenshrike said:
NWN's OC had a very "My first D&D adventure" feel too it. It wasn't bad, but by the same token it wasn't very interesting.
I found it interesting, as did everyone else I know who played it.

I did like HOTU slightly better, mainly because of the Drow being so fucking amazing, but the OC was far from bad. Many RPGs today fail to make a campaign as interesting.

I dont remember Shadows of the Undrentide very much, though I swear there was a dungeon or specific part of a dungeon you could only access by playing a Paladin which I found to be total bollocks. Though I did like the flying city at the end.

It may not be a genre defining masterpiece story, but for someone to say it was TERRIBLE is hyperbole IMO.
 

Sangreal Gothcraft

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Wow, They are adding Character Armour and how it will appear :O, My gosh such inovation... and ohh they have stats that you can see on it too o_O no stop it bioware, the inovation is simply to much!
 

GoaThief

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Voiced protagonist can go take a running leap, as can the shitty dialogue wheel.

Of course the points addressed will be decent improvements but is it enough? Nowhere near in my opinion. Little short of DA:O (part deux) will convince me to purchase, let alone pre order again.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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Sangreal Gothcraft said:
Wow, They are adding Character Armour and how it will appear :O, My gosh such inovation... and ohh they have stats that you can see on it too o_O no stop it bioware, the inovation is simply to much!
That was the most pathetic part of the whole panel. Jesus Christ how low they've sunk.