Bitchy parents help.

[Ziadaine_v1legacy]

Apologize to them and do whatever the fuck they tell you to do. That always has worked fro me when my parents got mad at me. Eventually the tension settles down and you have a chance to calmly talk about it.

But I really don't think you should ask this here. You're probably going to get some "crazy Christians" comments.

Here's one crazy comment from a Christian; OP's 19, so he should be able to get the game regardless of rating; and again, Op's 19, why is he living with his parents and at this time obviously not going to college or anything like that?

Or more importantly, WHY is 19 too young for a job?

now assuming your NOT 19, Im no christian but last I checked, both swearing, violent and "stealth-e" games don't come under the bible.

Or, you're right, she needs to get a job, get an apartment and get a life. If you're 19 and you still live with your parents like this, you are a fucking loser.

And on that note, I say "Fuck You". being a 16 year old, I doubt you understand the difficulty of landing a job lately (economic crisis) when your over 18, since we have to be paid much higher then under 18's, and we know employers don't want to do that.

 

[Pegghead]

Well, you should just go up to them, admit your faults and apologize for the outburst, It's the sensible thing to do and trust me, I remember there was one time when my Dad (Who is like Jesus and a carebear combined, minus the beard and the gay over tones) wouldn't even speak to me for a whole week, mainly because he was pissed off about how some kids had treated him at a soccer training session (He was the coach, and it was back in year 2). And then after a week he pulled me in for a little man to man wherein we both admitted our faults, and then went on like nothing had ever happened.

 

[Borntolose]

It's been a while since I saw an emo rant around here.

 

[jboking]

"If you can't feel right about playing it in front of me, which you will be doing, then you don't play it."

That's kinda ridiculous--I wouldn't feel comfortable taking a bath in front of my parents, but that doesn't mean I should stop washing.

Not even remotely similar. You need to bathe, you don't need to play a violent video game.

Now, while you didn't directly lie, you toned down what occurs in the game.

Not really--I mean, the killing in Assassin's Creed is pretty tame.

Tame is subjective. her parent's may see the killing in a different light than you and me.

They feel hurt and betrayed, that is something you have to understand in order to advance the situation in a positive direction. In the future, be 100% honest about what occurs in the game. Is there a lot of killing involved? Yes, then tell them so.

If parents can't figure out that there's going to be killing in a game called Assassin's Creed, then those parents need to get Hooked on Phonics.

I would like to quickly ask you, what do you expect from a game called "Ratchet and Clank"? You could expect a character named Ratchet and a character named Clank, but what past that? How about this, what can you expect from a game called "I want to be the guy"?

Titles can be misleading. If you are told that a title is misleading to the actual content of the game from someone you trust, then assuming they are telling you the truth is only natural. Not the smartest thing in the world, no, but it is natural.

The first step to them giving you more freedom is showing them that you can act like an adult about it(even if they are not acting like adults themselves).

Eh, I see where you're coming from, but if your parents are too immature to act like adults, than acting like an adult yourself won't always impress them. They probably want you to act more like a sycophant than is mature for someone to do.

That's an extreme situation. If your parents are having literal "Drop to the floor and swing your arms about" temper tantrums then that is an entirely different situation. However, if your parents are acting like the OP's(or like mine did, aka. A little unreasonable) the first step to solving the situation is acting like an adult yourself. At the very least, they respond to that better than yelling or temper tantrums.

It's your hobby and they are allowing you to have it because they want you to be happy, but you can't call foul when they decide they aren't going to pay for something.

Um, they didn't just decide they weren't going to pay for it--they decided to break a promise. Doesn't matter who's hobby it is: breaking a promise is wrong.

alright, I can see where you are coming from, but you have to consider what the OP did first. She downplayed something that she knew her parents wouldn't like, even though it is a critical part of the game. When her parents found that their child was lieing to them(at least from their perspective), do you really think they felt any need to stick to a promise revolving around the lie?

Also, how far can you keep a promise? If you find out later that keeping it could seriously mentally harm the person you promised, would you still do it? (This part isn't about AC, just promises in general)

 

[101194]

Well, Now would be a bad time to come out as an atheist now would it?

 

[nicholaxxx]

why exactly were they pissed? and WHY exactly are you a bad christian? you kind of left those parts out... Also, you lost a TON of credability when you said you cried about it.

No, he didn't. Real men aren't afraid of their emotions.

I could go into a rant about what real men do, but I won't. I'll just say that I am not afraid of my emotions if that's what you're getting at. and I should probably remind you that it is a game, a twenty - sixty dollar disk that his parent told him (a little harshly) that he couldn't get, if you think that this warrants running into your room and crying, then I am speechless.

It's not just that he didn't get a game--it's that he had a promise broken and was disappointed after having his expectations raised.

Obviously you know little about real emotions if you can't recognize that.

My questions atill weren't answered, why is he a bad christian and why were they piseed off? I actually started on this kids side, I merely said that last bit because they both over reacted, A LOT If that happened to me, I would probably go of angry, but I sure as hell wouldn't cry about it. I would be quite a bit more sympathetic is she would give us an answer.


just to clarify: I'm on the her side, the parents are idiots, but crying doesn't seem like an over-reaction to you?

 

[DracoSuave]

Bottom line.

You were getting a 300 dollar PS3, and Arkham Asylum. What are you doing to earn this?

You're -not- eight, and you already knew your parents had misgivings about it. They might not be media-saavy regarding video games but at least they're doing what the ESRB says they're supposed to be doing.

It -is- their money, you must understand, and they -do- have the right not to spend it on things they do not feel are morally correct.

Do I agree with their moral stance? No. But you should learn to quit while you are ahead. You were getting a PS3 and a free game. But... because you had a temper tantrum over what amounts to nothing important (seriously, you could have gone out and earned 20 dollars -easily- in a -day- if you -really- wanted it) they decided to remind you of the authority that earning their own money and taking care of you affords them.

Seriously. -Think- before you do dumb-ass crap like throw tantrums for not getting what you want. That's not acceptable when you're 8, don't think it's kosher when you're 18.

 

[Knight Templar]

Your parents are in the wrong.
You are in the right.
Say sorry and try to make up for what you did, because it doesn't matter they are being unfair, what matters to them is what you have done (yelling). This is advice I wouldn't be able to follow myslef because trying to make up for something I belive I did not do is wrong to me and feels like lying. Howeverif you don't mind taking the blame and are willing to tell them what they wish to hear then it's an easy way out.

There is nothing more self righteous than a parent, and nothing more blind to their own fault.

 

[ADDLibrarian]

There's a lot of good stuff that's rated T that your rents won't get their knickers in a twist about. Check that out first, because trying to argue about getting an M game with conservative parents is like trying to get Taylor Swift to sing on key. Just ain't gonna happen.

Well, Now would be a bad time to come out as an atheist now would it?

Yeah, cause then they would pull the old "well I guess you don't celebrate Christmas then" line.

 

[Dj_Trip]

My opinion (which won't be read) is: I have no reason to feel that underage kids with a modicum of maturity should not be allowed to play things that may be morally or ethically ambiguous, but, OP's reaction to his/her parents reaction obviously shows a level of maturity that falls far below my standards for letting a kiddo play a game like that.

Also, if OP is 19, WOW! get a job/apartment/free will. (before the flame, I was independent at 17 and now at 26, i buy whatever the fuck game i want.)

 

[nicholaxxx]

There's a lot of good stuff that's rated T that your rents won't get their knickers in a twist about. Check that out first, because trying to argue about getting an M game with conservative parents is like trying to get Taylor Swift to sing on key. Just ain't gonna happen.

Well, Now would be a bad time to come out as an atheist now would it?

Yeah, cause then they would pull the old "well I guess you don't celebrate Christmas then" line.

that bolded staement made me laugh, I also would agree with the parents, you don't believe in the faith that supports that holiday, so you shouldn't celebrate that holiday, I've been trying to get that into the head of my friend (who has a religion that he made up) for some time now, instead he would rather just accept the gifts because he is greedy... but that is a discussion for another time.

 

[DracoSuave]

Your parents are in the wrong.
You are in the right.
Say sorry and try to make up for what you did, because it doesn't matter they are being unfair, what matters to them is what you have done (yelling). This is advice I wouldn't be able to follow myslef because trying to make up for something I belive I did not do is wrong to me and feels like lying. Howeverif you don't mind taking the blame and are willing to tell them what they wish to hear then it's an easy way out.

There is nothing more self righteous than a parent, and nothing more blind to their own fault.

Biting the hand that feeds you is never a good idea. It's a bad precedent for surviving outside of the home. She's old enough to know better.

Unfair would be if she went out, worked 40 hours a week at less than minimum wage for enough weeks to earn the money to purchase these items, then told that they won't do so for her, and then pocketted the money earned. -That- is unfair.

The removal of privileged unearned because she acted up is not only fair, but it's right. That's what the real world will to her when she gets out and has to take care of herself. Life abhors whiners.

 

[Eric the Orange]

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While you make good points, you also seem to feel the need to insult people. This is a bad thing to do for two reasons.

1.) It degrades your argument. If you insult people in your argument then they will be less likely to listen to anything you have to say. It generally makes you seem immature and thus stupid. Therefore your points hold less merit.

2.) It only makes things worse. If you post with bile people will respond with bile. This escalates into a flame war. flame wars are bad.

In other words, be calm and rational. If your intention is to make a point then this will help make your point seem more reasonable. Of coarse if your intention was to make people angry then yeah, insult away.

 

[Eric the Orange]

They dont give me a chance to apolagize. They turn the TV up to max volume, talk really loud, or if I leave a note shread it.

I may not be a parenting expert, but that seems very... childish. It's like the equivalent of a kid sticking there fingers in there ears and saying "I'm not listening". I guess maybe they're trying to make you feel bad. Still I'd think sitting down and talking about it would make more sense.

 

[niglett]

All right, I recently asked my parents for a copy of Assassian's Creed 1 and Batman: Arkham Asylum and a $300 PS3. My parents were very hesitant for AC, noticing the M rating. I explained to them that, 'You do more stealth and unraviling the plot more then you do the killings." to which they completely agreed to try and get for me. They completely understood, and my dad said he'd like to play which never happens. Last time he played a videogame, it was my N64 in 1999!

Today I woke up, showered, got all gussied up for church, and went out for breakfast only to have my parents sitting sternly at the table with a Kmart newspaper ad in front of them. They immediatly bombarded me, accusing me of wanting a M rated game and how I should be ashamed as a Christian. I quickly flipped into the ad and saw a offer for AC2, which cost $60 or $70 or so. I told them directly that AC1 was only $20 right now, this was the second one. They called BS on me, saying they would'nt even consider it now. I remember losing my cool, towering over my dad screaming " YOU HAVE MOVIES THAT CURSE MORE THEN THE FUDGIN' GAME! AND YOU ARE CALLING ME A WORSE CHRISTIAN?!?" My dad promptly yelled back at me, saying that I was going to be punshied for even saying that sentance, and I wasant going to get any food for the day and not get any presents. Not even caring, I stormed to my room and cried. Now they are treating me worse then they normally do, glaring at me and calling me it or thing. So as a logical Escapest member to another, is there any advice one can give me for this? It'll be a great help if you can.

EDIT: I'm sorry, I should have cleared some things up. They had asked me specifically what I wanted for Christmas, and I have no ways of collecting money. No allowence, no job because I'm too young, and I've been around my neighbour hood. Nobody wants me to clean their lawns or anything.

i feel for you i truly do

i was raised a heavy catholic and i did the whole catholic thing. it became a chore for me to be catholic seeing that i was in public school and whent to the catholic school for all the churchy stuff until i said "fuck it i'm 16 i don't believe this crap and threw it in my parents faces... bad move

my parents forced me to go to church and ask for forgiveness halfway threw the whole thing in the box of heat i told the priest i give up on my religion i don't believe anything this says "holding the bible" and there ain't nothing you can do about it!

i was such a rebel.

after that my parents took all of my crap and forced me to work as punishment and also took all my crap including all my games t.v. they found my porn and took all my books that where remotely anti catholic (all but the bible and school books)this went for a week.

it ended with a reasonable talk like an adult with my parents and the amarican write for me to belive anything i want. it is my write for me to be atheist, Buddhist, Hindu, Christan, Hebrew what have you. i am now 19 and still perusing a truth that is logical and believable.
my parents acept that and gave all my stuff back after the talk.


what im saying is you need to talk to your parents like a human being no yelling, no anger, just ask if you can speek to them and state your issue with them.

also whats the big deal with people arguing who is the better Christan? wouldn't it be a non Christan thing to do?

 

[nono195]

bible inspired more killing than anything else in history. :/
but thats not the point; just say you are mature enough to handle it