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ImprovizoR

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I gotta say that is some awesome facial animations, and character animations in general. Looks like a movie. A proof that graphics alone aren't enough. Animations are what counts in the visual department if you want to make a great cinematic experience.
 

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T8B95 said:
...this is just another Call of Duty game. They haven't changed the formula for these games since the fourth one. There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity,
Name ONE series where the gameplay has been substantially changed with each new installment aside from new weapons and enemies.

How can you blame a series for doing what it does?
If CoD suddenly had Mass Effect style dialogue options or Battlefield 1942-ish multiplayer, it wouldnt be CoD anymore.

Although, they are changing stuff, and alot more than other franchises without breaking the game but making it more interesting.

And this is Treyarch, an entirely new developer, they arent the ones who made an absolute mess of Modern Warfare 2 and so they deserve a fucking chance.

Noone cares whether or not you get the damn thing, and I wouldnt be suprised if you yourself regularly play the crap out of the CoD games.
 
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I'm done with Call of Duty for a while. This game hasn't exactly got me excited. And as nice as it all looks, I just don't seem to care anymore.

Kind of a nice feeling really. Hope you enjoy it, I'll be happy with my other games.
 

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The facial animations still look a little wooden and off, it seems odd that so many years later newer games seem almost totally unable to exceed what is done in the source engine. Personally im not a fan of CoD, in my book the 'modern' games might as well be on rails.
You do realize that facial expressions operate mostly on minuscule muscle motion with very slight shifts in terms of position and relative positioning. There are 10 muscles alone at mouth area, 8 for eye movement, and that's not counting the muscles responsible for chewing, eyelid etc. To emulate them all effectively you would need a lot of processing power just for those animations.

That said, the visuals seem nice in BO, but still far from progressing past the uncanny valley effect and a lot of the good effect is mostly achieved by the fact that the only guy you see eyes of has them squinted permanently.
 

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IBlackKiteI said:
T8B95 said:
...this is just another Call of Duty game. They haven't changed the formula for these games since the fourth one. There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity,
Name ONE series where the gameplay has been substantially changed with each new installment aside from new weapons and enemies.
Assassin's Creed, The Elder Scrolls, Splinter Cell...good game series in other terms.

My point is that until the fourth installment, each of the Call of Dutys made major changes not only to the CoD formula, but to the FPS formula instead. Even the Halo games have made gameplay additions in each game, but Call of Duty is starting to stagnate. At least Modern Warfare 2 added a shitload of attachments and weapons. Black Ops isn't adding anything and if I hand over $70 for a game I expect some fucking quality. No need to get touchy on me, fanboy.
 

Korten12

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T8B95 said:
IBlackKiteI said:
T8B95 said:
...this is just another Call of Duty game. They haven't changed the formula for these games since the fourth one. There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity,
Name ONE series where the gameplay has been substantially changed with each new installment aside from new weapons and enemies.
Assassin's Creed, The Elder Scrolls, Splinter Cell...good game series in other terms.

My point is that until the fourth installment, each of the Call of Dutys made major changes not only to the CoD formula, but to the FPS formula instead. Even the Halo games have made gameplay additions in each game, but Call of Duty is starting to stagnate. At least Modern Warfare 2 added a shitload of attachments and weapons. Black Ops isn't adding anything and if I hand over $70 for a game I expect some fucking quality. No need to get touchy on me, fanboy.
Customization to a level never before seen in COD? New attachments? New guns? New credit system? New game modes..? I am pretty sure they're adding things new before in a COD game.
 

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T8B95 said:
SalamanderJoe said:
Well since getting Medal of Honor I'm back into the shooter craze that Call of Duty 4 began, and Modern Warfare 2 ended.

Black Ops will be awesome. Mark my digital imprinted words.
Have you lost yourself to the hype already? Jesus Christ, people let's look at the damn facts; this is just another Call of Duty game. They haven't changed the formula for these games since the fourth one. There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity,

Mark my digital imprinted words, Black Ops will just be an overpriced, over-hyped, Modern Warfare retread.
Always one, isn't there? Popular franchise gets mentioned and there is always atleast one guy who comes and pisses on the parade.

Who knows, black ops may restore the COD name to it's former self.

I assume by retread you mean retard, so ... much ... irony!
No. By retread, they obviously mean that the game will not cover any new ground. It will retread, so to speak, the same grounds that the previous game was based on. And I agree. But each to his own. I like story, originality, atmosphere, and strong characterisation. I'll just look elsewhere.
 

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T8B95 said:
IBlackKiteI said:
T8B95 said:
...this is just another Call of Duty game. They haven't changed the formula for these games since the fourth one. There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity,
Name ONE series where the gameplay has been substantially changed with each new installment aside from new weapons and enemies.
Assassin's Creed, The Elder Scrolls, Splinter Cell...good game series in other terms.

My point is that until the fourth installment, each of the Call of Dutys made major changes not only to the CoD formula, but to the FPS formula instead. Even the Halo games have made gameplay additions in each game, but Call of Duty is starting to stagnate. At least Modern Warfare 2 added a shitload of attachments and weapons. Black Ops isn't adding anything and if I hand over $70 for a game I expect some fucking quality. No need to get touchy on me, fanboy.
They are adding that theater mode, bots, and the custom stuff/currency. I dunno how much of it counts as gameplay enhancements, but there is some new stuff.

You'd probably get a less touchy response if you didn't say things like "There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity". Why not just say it in a nicer, more constructive manner?
 

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"The facial animations and mo-cap are possibly the best I've ever seen in a game,"

You need to play MOAR games.

OT: Hasn't been my thing since Call of Duty 2. Looks alright.

I'm surprised at the amount of people actually interested in this; one minute you're all "CoD is killing the industry!" and then you all buy the bloody thing.

It can't be entirely different people in each group.
 

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While it streams and buffers here, I'll say that it had better have a decent campaign length and not just hobble along with the crutches of multiplayer to support it :)
I don't mind multiplayer, I just don't like it being used as an excuse to prolong the game as a whole really.

And looking at the video now I'll say it looks pretty enough at least, plus I've always had a penchant for pre 90's setting in a game world
 

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Korten12 said:
T8B95 said:
IBlackKiteI said:
T8B95 said:
...this is just another Call of Duty game. They haven't changed the formula for these games since the fourth one. There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity,
Name ONE series where the gameplay has been substantially changed with each new installment aside from new weapons and enemies.
Assassin's Creed, The Elder Scrolls, Splinter Cell...good game series in other terms.

My point is that until the fourth installment, each of the Call of Dutys made major changes not only to the CoD formula, but to the FPS formula instead. Even the Halo games have made gameplay additions in each game, but Call of Duty is starting to stagnate. At least Modern Warfare 2 added a shitload of attachments and weapons. Black Ops isn't adding anything and if I hand over $70 for a game I expect some fucking quality. No need to get touchy on me, fanboy.
Customization to a level never before seen in COD? New attachments? New guns? New credit system? New game modes..? I am pretty sure they're adding things new before in a COD game.
Also bots! Finally bots after so much time. Quake and Counter Strike had bots more than 10 years ago. It's good for practicing maps and just relaxing and not worrying about freaks on MP. I don't get it why it took them so long to implement bots.
But I would like old school health system back in CoD. I blame Treyarch for making health regeneration a standard in FPS with CoD 2. That's when FPS went downhill.
 

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T8B95 said:
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Have you lost yourself to the hype already? Jesus Christ, people let's look at the damn facts; this is just another Call of Duty game. They haven't changed the formula for these games since the fourth one. There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity,
The obligatory contrary, expletive filled hate post arrived later than usual this time.
 

Serenegoose

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Woodsey said:
"The facial animations and mo-cap are possibly the best I've ever seen in a game,"

You need to play MOAR games.

OT: Hasn't been my thing since Call of Duty 2. Looks alright.

I'm surprised at the amount of people actually interested in this; one minute you're all "CoD is killing the industry!" and then you all buy the bloody thing.

It can't be entirely different people in each group.
CoD2 was definitely the series highlight, if you excuse the German army having an abnormal amount of Tigers, or at least a scary predilection for deploying them against you, specifically.

OT: I was out when the guy said 'about 9 hours' of plot. Given this thing is likely to be £39:99 til the heat-death of the universe and I'd say 12 hours is a reasonable minimum... for £30, and even then I'd wait til it came down a bit. Anything else is just no. And no, neither me nor my partner, the person I'd likely get it for, is sufficiently interested in the multiplayer to do anything other than utterly ignore it. We got into the series for its great single player, and now that it's gone, so are we.
 

T8B95

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Korten12 said:
T8B95 said:
IBlackKiteI said:
T8B95 said:
...this is just another Call of Duty game. They haven't changed the formula for these games since the fourth one. There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity,
Name ONE series where the gameplay has been substantially changed with each new installment aside from new weapons and enemies.
Assassin's Creed, The Elder Scrolls, Splinter Cell...good game series in other terms.

My point is that until the fourth installment, each of the Call of Dutys made major changes not only to the CoD formula, but to the FPS formula instead. Even the Halo games have made gameplay additions in each game, but Call of Duty is starting to stagnate. At least Modern Warfare 2 added a shitload of attachments and weapons. Black Ops isn't adding anything and if I hand over $70 for a game I expect some fucking quality. No need to get touchy on me, fanboy.
Customization to a level never before seen in COD? New attachments? New guns? New credit system? New game modes..? I am pretty sure they're adding things new before in a COD game.
My point is that the actual gameplay is staying the same. That they're adding extra features is nice, but just because they offer to add strawberries to my ice cream doesn't make the actual ice cream any better. The gameplay isn't changing, they're just re-skinning the guns snd changing the names, and the attachments are all competing for the most unnecessary feature award...which in a CoD game is hard to achieve.

And before people jump down my throat, the helicopter and underwater bits just look like twenty second features that are going to be over before I can call them fun. They aren't really gameplay additions because they have nothing to do with the real gameplay.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
T8B95 said:
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Have you lost yourself to the hype already? Jesus Christ, people let's look at the damn facts; this is just another Call of Duty game. They haven't changed the formula for these games since the fourth one. There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity,
The obligatory contrary, expletive filled hate post arrived later than usual this time.
"Expletive filled" implies he swore more than once. Also, he's bordering on a fair point; the game's are yearly updates, which a great many people only buy because everyone else is buying it. Sports games often pull the same trick.

Serenegoose said:
Woodsey said:
"The facial animations and mo-cap are possibly the best I've ever seen in a game,"

You need to play MOAR games.

OT: Hasn't been my thing since Call of Duty 2. Looks alright.

I'm surprised at the amount of people actually interested in this; one minute you're all "CoD is killing the industry!" and then you all buy the bloody thing.

It can't be entirely different people in each group.
CoD2 was definitely the series highlight, if you excuse the German army having an abnormal amount of Tigers, or at least a scary predilection for deploying them against you, specifically.

OT: I was out when the guy said 'about 9 hours' of plot. Given this thing is likely to be £39:99 til the heat-death of the universe and I'd say 12 hours is a reasonable minimum... for £30, and even then I'd wait til it came down a bit. Anything else is just no. And no, neither me nor my partner, the person I'd likely get it for, is sufficiently interested in the multiplayer to do anything other than utterly ignore it. We got into the series for its great single player, and now that it's gone, so are we.
Wasn't MW2 £50?(!!)

And I actually preferred the original - the first USSR level and storming Red Square with no gun were great.

The series lost any semblance of heart after the second though.
 

Korten12

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T8B95 said:
Korten12 said:
T8B95 said:
IBlackKiteI said:
T8B95 said:
...this is just another Call of Duty game. They haven't changed the formula for these games since the fourth one. There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity,
Name ONE series where the gameplay has been substantially changed with each new installment aside from new weapons and enemies.
Assassin's Creed, The Elder Scrolls, Splinter Cell...good game series in other terms.

My point is that until the fourth installment, each of the Call of Dutys made major changes not only to the CoD formula, but to the FPS formula instead. Even the Halo games have made gameplay additions in each game, but Call of Duty is starting to stagnate. At least Modern Warfare 2 added a shitload of attachments and weapons. Black Ops isn't adding anything and if I hand over $70 for a game I expect some fucking quality. No need to get touchy on me, fanboy.
Customization to a level never before seen in COD? New attachments? New guns? New credit system? New game modes..? I am pretty sure they're adding things new before in a COD game.
My point is that the actual gameplay is staying the same. That they're adding extra features is nice, but just because they offer to add strawberries to my ice cream doesn't make the actual ice cream any better. The gameplay isn't changing, they're just re-skinning the guns snd changing the names, and the attachments are all competing for the most unnecessary feature award...which in a CoD game is hard to achieve.

And before people jump down my throat, the helicopter and underwater bits just look like twenty second features that are going to be over before I can call them fun. They aren't really gameplay additions because they have nothing to do with the real gameplay.
Why fix what isn't broken, I mean seriously what could they do to change it?