Black Ops - Incredible campaign footage

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Serenegoose

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Woodsey said:
Wasn't MW2 £50?(!!)

And I actually preferred the original - the first USSR level and storming Red Square with no gun were great.

The series lost any semblance of heart after the second though.
I really can't say if it was. Certainly that I never seen it on sale for any other price than £39:99 doesn't preclude it from having been more expensive elsewhere.

The original was great, certainly it effortlessly conveyed the feeling that FPS games were 'going to be different' from now on, in intensity and professionalism. The USSR levels in the beginning were wonderful, but I played it again recently and found it was essentially wolfenstein on many levels. The Tirpitz, the dam (ok, the ENTIRE UK campaign save pegasus bridge which was nintendo hard to defend was basically a wolfenstein clone.) The 'defend the house' USSR mission also seemed to be more luck than judgement. CoD 2 wasn't as revolutionary feeling, but it definitely felt like the mechanically 'better game' to me. Except the end of Comrade Sniper, which can go and die in a fire.
 

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T8B95 said:
IBlackKiteI said:
T8B95 said:
...this is just another Call of Duty game. They haven't changed the formula for these games since the fourth one. There is no fucking reason to let yourselves get hyped about this game! I've decided that I'm not getting this game because I refuse to let them make money off of such mediocrity,
Name ONE series where the gameplay has been substantially changed with each new installment aside from new weapons and enemies.
Assassin's Creed, The Elder Scrolls, Splinter Cell...good game series in other terms.

My point is that until the fourth installment, each of the Call of Dutys made major changes not only to the CoD formula, but to the FPS formula instead. Even the Halo games have made gameplay additions in each game, but Call of Duty is starting to stagnate. At least Modern Warfare 2 added a shitload of attachments and weapons. Black Ops isn't adding anything and if I hand over $70 for a game I expect some fucking quality. No need to get touchy on me, fanboy.
What? Are you serious?
Black Ops is adding ton and tons of stuff, moreso than the other games.

You've got new guns, new attachments, new perks, new killstreak rewards, new equipment items, new settings, new modes, new gun camos, new form of purchasing stuff, new emblem editor and theres a mode where you can run around and kill AI bots, nothing like that has ever been done in a Call of Duty game.

How can you hate Black Ops so much anyway? It hasnt even come out yet, but it seems to be shaping up to be something awesome, guess we will all just have to wait and see.
 

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Korten12 said:
Why fix what isn't broken, I mean seriously what could they do to change it?
To add some variety to the games, instead of paying an additional $70 every year for what essentially amounts to a graphics update.

And to BlackKitel, I'm against Black Ops on principle because it looks pretty damn close to Modern Warfare 2, and seeing as I was disappointed when I sunk $70 in to that game to find that it was basically more Call of Duty 4 with some new guns and attachments.

This seems to be the end of my association with modern warfare-based games until I see something that looks really revolutionary. Then again, I hear there's a nice sniping-based game around the corner so we'll see...
 

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T8B95 said:
Korten12 said:
Why fix what isn't broken, I mean seriously what could they do to change it?
To add some variety to the games, instead of paying an additional $70 every year for what essentially amounts to a graphics update.

And to BlackKitel, I'm against Black Ops on principle because it looks pretty damn close to Modern Warfare 2, and seeing as I was disappointed when I sunk $70 in to that game to find that it was basically more Call of Duty 4 with some new guns and attachments.

This seems to be the end of my association with modern warfare-based games until I see something that looks really revolutionary. Then again, I hear there's a nice sniping-based game around the corner so we'll see...
Well you didn't say what variety, you just said variety. Also $70? Were did you buy the game thats more then most people paid.
 

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The game looks good. But I'll wait for user reviews (probably here) until I make a decision. I don't want to make the same mistake twice. I'll tell you right now. If the campaign isn't at least 10 hours long on normal difficulty I wont bother with this. At least not until the price drops. As far as the multiplayer goes, I don't really care about it. It's more fun to play with bots then some of the people online anyway. At least bots don't cheat and you can limit their equipment so there are no noob toobers, boosters, killstreaks and other bullshit that doesn't belong in a decent FPS game.
 

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Looks like another generic scripted shooter, nearly on rails at that. Same unflinching formula this entire decade.

Well, folks will enjoy what they enjoy I spose. Just can't see how people get hyped up for the cloned formula every year. Call of Duty is the new Madden. Yep, I said it.
 

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SyphonX said:
Looks like another generic scripted shooter, nearly on rails at that. Same unflinching formula this entire decade.

Well, folks will enjoy what they enjoy I spose. Just can't see how people get hyped up for the cloned formula every year. Call of Duty is the new Madden. Yep, I said it.
Your not the first to make that comparison.

What do guys want? Everything that can be in COD game is in there. Name me some other stuff you want in it 'cos it can't be a whole lot or anything big.

It does have to have the same feel that COD does, otherwise it isn't COD. It's like if you take your favorite game then release it's sequel, it would have to feel the same 'cos thats what you expect.
 

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omega 616 said:
SyphonX said:
Looks like another generic scripted shooter, nearly on rails at that. Same unflinching formula this entire decade.

Well, folks will enjoy what they enjoy I spose. Just can't see how people get hyped up for the cloned formula every year. Call of Duty is the new Madden. Yep, I said it.
Your not the first to make that comparison.

What do guys want? Everything that can be in COD game is in there. Name me some other stuff you want in it 'cos it can't be a whole lot or anything big.

It does have to have the same feel that COD does, otherwise it isn't COD. It's like if you take your favorite game then release it's sequel, it would have to feel the same 'cos thats what you expect.
It's more about what to erase from CoD. Regenerative health should be out, killstreaks should be out, grenade launchers and RPG's and other bullshit should be out, perks should be out, weapons that are not a part of the cold war era should be out and replaced with weapons that actually existed, campaign should be at least 3 times longer, free dedicated servers for PC, round based team deathmatch like in Counter Strike.

Here are some fine ideas.
 

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ImprovizoR said:
omega 616 said:
SyphonX said:
Looks like another generic scripted shooter, nearly on rails at that. Same unflinching formula this entire decade.

Well, folks will enjoy what they enjoy I spose. Just can't see how people get hyped up for the cloned formula every year. Call of Duty is the new Madden. Yep, I said it.
Your not the first to make that comparison.

What do guys want? Everything that can be in COD game is in there. Name me some other stuff you want in it 'cos it can't be a whole lot or anything big.

It does have to have the same feel that COD does, otherwise it isn't COD. It's like if you take your favorite game then release it's sequel, it would have to feel the same 'cos thats what you expect.
It's more about what to erase from CoD. Regenerative health should be out, killstreaks should be out, grenade launchers and RPG's and other bullshit should be out, perks should be out, weapons that are not a part of the cold war era should be out and replaced with weapons that actually existed, campaign should be at least 3 times longer, free dedicated servers for PC, round based team deathmatch like in Counter Strike.

Here are some fine ideas.
... Go play counter strike then.

Seriously, without regen health you would be screwed for getting killstreaks, it would be one kill, die, kill, die, kill etc etc etc with the odd die, die or kill, kill.

Killstreaks set COD apart from other games, so taking it away is making more generic ... isn't that the opposite way we want to go? First criticizing it for being generic, then taking away things that make it stand out. Which means RPG's would have to stay to destroy them.

Noob tubes can be controlled, 2 per life and no more.

Perks, read kill streaks.

I agree with the rest, except the last one ... why? Why does it matter if the TDM is in rounds? One round then a new map, one round then a new map ... it keeps things fresh.
 

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omega 616 said:
ImprovizoR said:
omega 616 said:
SyphonX said:
Looks like another generic scripted shooter, nearly on rails at that. Same unflinching formula this entire decade.

Well, folks will enjoy what they enjoy I spose. Just can't see how people get hyped up for the cloned formula every year. Call of Duty is the new Madden. Yep, I said it.
Your not the first to make that comparison.

What do guys want? Everything that can be in COD game is in there. Name me some other stuff you want in it 'cos it can't be a whole lot or anything big.

It does have to have the same feel that COD does, otherwise it isn't COD. It's like if you take your favorite game then release it's sequel, it would have to feel the same 'cos thats what you expect.
It's more about what to erase from CoD. Regenerative health should be out, killstreaks should be out, grenade launchers and RPG's and other bullshit should be out, perks should be out, weapons that are not a part of the cold war era should be out and replaced with weapons that actually existed, campaign should be at least 3 times longer, free dedicated servers for PC, round based team deathmatch like in Counter Strike.

Here are some fine ideas.
... Go play counter strike then.

Seriously, without regen health you would be screwed for getting killstreaks, it would be one kill, die, kill, die, kill etc etc etc with the odd die, die or kill, kill.

Killstreaks set COD apart from other games, so taking it away is making more generic ... isn't that the opposite way we want to go? First criticizing it for being generic, then taking away things that make it stand out. Which means RPG's would have to stay to destroy them.

Noob tubes can be controlled, 2 per life and no more.

Perks, read kill streaks.

I agree with the rest, except the last one ... why? Why does it matter if the TDM is in rounds? One round then a new map, one round then a new map ... it keeps things fresh.
I agree with you but with the gun part, I sort of see what your saying but, always sticking to exisiting guns gets boring after awhile.
 

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Well, while I've certainly seen better facial animations (Hello Uncharted 2, Mass Effect, etc), that was quite impressive. Sure, it's not necessarily innovative but Call of Duty has been polished to a mirror shine already.

I'm intrigued.
 

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I swore Modern Warfare 3 was going to be the last CoD game I'll ever buy.

Then I learned that there's going to be a level in Black Ops set in Hong Kong. Damn, the methods Treyarch use to try to lure me into buying their damn game.
 

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Modern Warfare 2 was pretty too.

And it was also pretty fucking disappointing... I'm not letting previews determine wether or not I buy a game. I'll let reviews do that (and maybe rentals)
 
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Woodsey said:
"The facial animations and mo-cap are possibly the best I've ever seen in a game,"

You need to play MOAR games.

OT: Hasn't been my thing since Call of Duty 2. Looks alright.

I'm surprised at the amount of people actually interested in this; one minute you're all "CoD is killing the industry!" and then you all buy the bloody thing.

It can't be entirely different people in each group.
Funny how things work like that.

People demand new games and innovation, yet when a game does give them that, they ignore it in favor of games that are essentially the same as the last.

Unless Black Ops turns out to be the greatest game ever made withing the past 5 years and a story that actually affects the player in untold ways, I'm not buying it. Not right away at least.

I'm not getting burned like I did with MW2. And with all the new shit they're adding and it seems they're not having a beta, I'm betting it will be unbalanced as fuck.

I've got better things to spend my money on in the meantime.
 

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Woodsey said:
"Expletive filled" implies he swore more than once. Also, he's bordering on a fair point; the game's are yearly updates, which a great many people only buy because everyone else is buying it. Sports games often pull the same trick.
I have to disagree there, having seen the huge changes to the multiplayer and the clips from the campaign, the game seems far more than just an 'update' to me.

And I buy COD because I enjoy them, not because everyone else is buying it.
 

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T8B95 said:
My point is that the actual gameplay is staying the same.
Good.

Why change a good formula? Many people enjoy the gameplay of COD.

Doom's gameplay hasn't changed in 15 years and its still fun.

EDIT: 17 years actually, wow I feel old.
 

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It looks great but Call of Duty is a little too fast paced for me. I normally get a bit of enjoyment out of the single player though.
 
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ehh i have my fix from halo reach for multiplayer, its alot more fun for me, and i am going to be getting new vegas soon which will have some pew pewz and vanquish i am getting also, as that looks amazing to me personally, so black ops ill skip out on, might borrow it from someone eventually but probably wont buy.
 

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Great video highlight, awful advertisement* aside. Black Ops looks nice n' shiny, but I'm still just giving it a rental. The different locales and new time setting away from the "modern war" are a nice change of pace though. I personally enjoyed the explosions, especially in the helicopter!

*[small]Anyone else find that Red Dead Redemption ad messed up? It just played the beginning, then had the sound in the background of the normal, paused GT video. They have to get their ad scripting fixed because even the volume is broken.[/small]
omega 616 said:
Little off topic. That MOH review, LAWL! How many ways did that woman say various parts of the game were mediocre? Pretty much every point she touched upon was "it's ok but been done before" then gives it and pretty high 8.1, what the hell? If it is so middle of the road, nothing new, been done before, not this shit again shouldn't it have been given 5, maybe a 6 for the sliding cover thing.
Yeah, from her description, Medal of Honor could have been Toilet Paper Patrol. How does such banality then warrant an 8.1? That's a freaking B-! That's actually better than the class averages for tests...
 

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It does look pretty interesting, the multiplayer customization looks very extensive and the single player actually looks like it's worth a damn.

But, as I've said before, I will not buy it. I will not support Activision, even indirectly, and thus will not buy this game or any future products with an Activision logo on it. That may cause me to miss out on some great titles, but oh well.

But, again, as I've said before, there's no reason why you guys shouldn't get a good game aswell. I wish everyone who's purchasing Black Ops, or any other Activision product, to have a good time with the game. It's your choice, and some of you may just ignore Activision's involvement and just look at the game itself, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I sincerely bid you a good game. Enjoy, I'll have fun with New Vegas perhaps, or Enslaved.