Black Ops rage... welcome to the next year of your life.

[RedRussian]

I dunno man. There are new ways to take down air support. There is the 4 kill streak SAM turret that automatically locks on to air support and shoots it down, as well as new launchers, and the Valkyrie rockets that would destroy it in no time. This was a really small map with little cover so I think that's why he raped so much.

You know, I agree and I don't think it will be as much of a problem on bigger maps.

But I've seen a few of them and there are a bunch that have little to no overhead cover - Launch and Jungle for example.

True but this is all based of second hand information since the game isn't actually out yet. until then I am saving judgment.

...which is probably the sensible thing to do. I have seen detailed run thoughs and multiple gameplays on those maps though, and I assure you that overhead cover is definately scarce!

I usually have a anti-air class that I immediately switch to if I get killed by a killstrak. Gille up and break out the SAM turrets. Its chopper hunting time.

 

[Irridium]

I could swear I predicted this...

Oh wait, I did. I said it would have balance issues like MW2 because of all the new shit their adding and not having a beta.

As for the sniping issue, that does seem pretty stupid. They could have just made it take a bit to scope in. That way it won't be quick-scoping.

Again, they could have learned all this and fix the issues if they had a beta, which they didn't have, and now its unbalanced just like MW2. Idiots.

Of course I'm just going by what you showed/described, so yeah.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

At least snipers don't have fucking shotgun secondaries anymore

That's incentive enough for me to play multiplayer in Black Ops.

 

[Ridgemo]

Don't see why people call this game realistic. When he uses the RC car, he pulls out your bog standard controller, how would the guy see where the car was going after it went round the corner. Magic?!?!!?

(Jokes, obviously).

 

[Adamc-mh]

I'm glad they destroyed quick scoping and other sniping "tricks".It means people will actually treat a sniper like a SNIPER.

 

[Steppin Razor]

At least snipers don't have fucking shotgun secondaries anymore

That's incentive enough for me to play multiplayer in Black Ops.

You should do so. It's quite fun so far from the hour or so I played earlier before various systems decided to crash and die on me, rendering me Black Ops-less until I can get stuff working again.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Then get a bigger window of opportunity. It's the game's fault you couldn't position yourself to get into a good field of view? Should the game really be THAT easy?

Why should I compensate for the game's draconic anti-quick scoping mechanic? I was ready, and in MW2 I actually got the kill in plenty of occasions. You don't know whether my field of view was crap, sometimes a player is just clever enough to dive for cover fast. A good sniper could still get that target if he was quick enough, now he can't because the game refuses to cooperate. That's a humongous nerf for an issue that can be fixed a lot easier.

And if I'm not mistaken, it's usually harder to shoot a target that's only in your view for a second than being able to track the bastard for ages. And it's not like you can just stand anywhere as a sniper either, having the need to be all covert and all.

Just a thought: The game hasn't officially released yet, so maybe (big maybe, as in I-swear-to-fucking-Bran maybe) the spawn system is intentionally shitty.

Possible? Perhaps. Probable? I don't think so. To punish early players by having a sneaky extra-shitty spawn system that looks remarkably a lot like MW2's spawn system? Yeeeaaaah... Sounds to me that they just didn't fix what was broken from the start.

 

[ultimateownage]

Well someone was going to say it sooner or later. Especially that you yourself just made a thread saying what I essentially said. Honestly the Black Ops multiplayer looks miles better than the MW2 multiplayer. I couldn't stand it when there were so many better games I could be playing, and so many better multiplayer shooters I could be playing.

The thread is created by Miracle Of Sound, not me.

I don't object to you not liking the game.

I object you to criticizing other people for still liking the series and outright implying they're thinking wrong.

Oh yeah, my bad. Usually I only get quoted that quickly for my opinion by the OP taking offence.
Also, I never criticised him for liking the game, I criticised the series for having a poor multiplayer. Or I never meant to, at least.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

At least snipers don't have fucking shotgun secondaries anymore

That's incentive enough for me to play multiplayer in Black Ops.

You should do so. It's quite fun so far from the hour or so I played earlier before various systems decided to crash and die on me, rendering me Black Ops-less until I can get stuff working again.

You already have it? You lucky man.

I'm still contemplating on the version choice, which means I won't get the game for another week or so.

 

[kamix]

yes i agree with the chopper gunner it should be on certain maps or have more safer spawn points.

the quick scoping tho, i agree with the change as well, the game is supposed to be realistic, you don't see snipers run up to an enemy at point blank and quick scope them. it's retarded

 

[kouriichi]

Good. Quickscoping needed to roll over and die in a hole.
Its a sniper rifle. its supposed to be useless in close quarters. Thats what your secondary is for.

And yes. The choppergunner does do alot of damage. But if everyone has a class with a launcher equiped, your problem is solved.

And im glad you get a 2nd chance at care packages. When i use them, i only ever get ammo or UAV. Infact, the highest killstreak reward i got from a carepackage ((without stealing one for a dead enemy)) was a harrier.

2nd Chance is pretty balanced from what ive seen. It doesnt have that full second of invulnerability it did before. If you can shoot someone as theyer falling, thats really more of your fault.
And i think its fine someone else can help theyer teammate up. It means both players have to waste a perk so they can do this.

You are over reacting. Shoot the RC car before it reaches you. Or go through a doorway and watch it get stuck. Use coldblooded if theyer a chopper gunner, and get indoors, or shoot the thing down. Its simple.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Oh yeah, my bad. Usually I only get quoted that quickly for my opinion by the OP taking offence.
Also, I never criticised him for liking the game, I criticised the series for having a poor multiplayer. Or I never meant to, at least.

Don't worry I didn't take offense. COD's multi is indeed quite broken sometimes and that's why I started the thread.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

yes i agree with the chopper gunner it should be on certain maps or have more safer spawn points.

the quick scoping tho, i agree with the change as well, the game is supposed to be realistic, you don't see snipers run up to an enemy at point blank and quick scope them. it's retarded

Yeah but the rifle swingly wildly and randomly around for a second and a half when you look down the sights isn't exactly realistic either, which is what they've done.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

And i think its fine someone else can help theyer teammate up. It means both players have to waste a perk so they can do this.

No it doesn't... anyone on your team can revive you now.

 

[Last Valiance]

Is it me or is Nuke town like tranquility lane but in colour... >.<

 

[Woodsey]

Call of Duty's multiplayer is flawed despite this being the (1,2,3, 4, 5, 6...) 7th iteration you say?!

Why, I am most shocked indeed!

 

[Duffeknol]

Thank goodness I don't play these games online.

Lol I sometimes miss the days I only played single player games

It's such a blessing, really. I never have to worry myself about nonsense like balance. I laugh so hard at people always whining about 'OMG MY ZERGLING DOES 0.04DPS TOO LITTLE' or 'THAT GUN IS WAY TOO OVERPOWERED IT SHOULD FIRE 0.003RPM LESS'. Hilarious.

 

[GLo Jones]

SNIIIIIP

I'll be honest. Your post has actually made me very excited for this game now. I don't see the chopper gunner being an issue. Sure he was chewing them up in that video, but the players were hardly trying to take him down, it won't be long before people become familiar with countermeasures and tactics against it.

As for the quickscoping video... I couldn't be more ecstatic!

 

[kouriichi]

And i think its fine someone else can help theyer teammate up. It means both players have to waste a perk so they can do this.

No it doesn't... anyone on your team can revive you now.

Huh, really?
Thats alittle unbalanced. But if your running around behind enemy lines thats kinda your fault too if he lives. I personally never get killed py people who drop into last/final stand.

Same with the martyrdom thing. Just dont bum rush the enemy corpse.

Most of the time when people RAAAAAAAAGE ((face)) they tend forget the simple solutions to the problems. :/ ive probably shot down 100+ chopper gunners. And i kinda get a kick out of it.
Its more balanced then before because it doesnt add the kills to your streak.

And even as stated in the video, thats the smallest map in the game. :/ ofcourse the chopper gunner is going to completely dominate on it with no trouble.

 

[Hosker]

As long as there is no secondary shotguns, it will be better than MW2. I'm glad about the quickscoping, but the choppergunner did seem a bit....uh.