I'd offer to lend Blizzard a shovel with which to dig their own grave, but they make enough money to buy a shovel made of titanium alloy for each of their employees.
Blizzard Says Diablo 3 Hacking Isn't Unusual - UPDATED
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quick, I'd better go and check to make sure that all my items in other single player games aren't being stolen... OH WAIT - that's not a thing. Nice one, Blizz - bringing MMO issues to what is essentially single-player hack and slash with online market.
I'd love to just go and play some SC2 skirmishes now to relax, but I can't cos my internet's acting up AND I NEED TO BE ONLINE TO PLAY BY MY SELF.
/still confused why this was ever considered to be a good idea.
I'd love to just go and play some SC2 skirmishes now to relax, but I can't cos my internet's acting up AND I NEED TO BE ONLINE TO PLAY BY MY SELF.
/still confused why this was ever considered to be a good idea.
Haha, I love that attitude. "Well this isn't working for some people so clearly it's not working at all."
And welcome to the growing pains of a new technological era, kids. You all thought it was pretty awesome being able to do everything online; shopping, mail, movies, tv shows. Hell Penny Arcade keeps saying the new wave of internet would completely replace brick and mortar. Well kids, say hello to the drawbacks of an always-online era. If you don't like it, invent a time machine and go back to 2000.
And welcome to the growing pains of a new technological era, kids. You all thought it was pretty awesome being able to do everything online; shopping, mail, movies, tv shows. Hell Penny Arcade keeps saying the new wave of internet would completely replace brick and mortar. Well kids, say hello to the drawbacks of an always-online era. If you don't like it, invent a time machine and go back to 2000.
Just because it isn't unusual doesn't make it acceptable. In fact, it makes it even more unacceptable that they still don't know how to deal with this issue.
(facepalm)Andy Chalk said:
Okay, I'll bite with the obvious question- how does it compare with the rate of complaints on the non-online games, like Diablo 3 could have been if it hadn't been created with this new paradigm in mind?
This is kind of like saying "We find the rate of theft in your home to be very similar to the rate of theft in other homes in which we've installed maintenance/utility doors against the homeowner's desires."
It's not unusual, but it's still happening in similar, if not higher, numbers to that of WoW expansion hackings? Can Blizzard at least pretend that they've learned from their past releases? Oh, I guess that is what this article is about. Never mind then, carry on.
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Captcha: little bird told me
Indeed, a little bird did tell me.
Well they could do the thing valve did with steam and only let you log in from authorized computers. Admittedly there are ways around that as well but it would at least help a bit.
This is like sony coming out and saying:
"Ye,we are sorry that your credit card numbers got compromised and most likely it is your fault in the most part. Oh ye,did we mentiong that if you pay us 5 bucks (free if you have an iphone,which is an absolutely cheap thing to get) we will make sure that your credit card gets a withdrawal limit so that it ensures that it is safer"
This is absolute crap. The user is obliged to have his pc clean of keyloggers and yes,obviously, some of them wouldn't be able to keep their end of the bargain. Anything else after that is their responsibility though and the amount of hacked people is way too big to believe that "oh,it's your fault guys, should we remind you of our authenticator that you can buy?". Trying to put the blame to the user is really insulting.
"Ye,we are sorry that your credit card numbers got compromised and most likely it is your fault in the most part. Oh ye,did we mentiong that if you pay us 5 bucks (free if you have an iphone,which is an absolutely cheap thing to get) we will make sure that your credit card gets a withdrawal limit so that it ensures that it is safer"
This is absolute crap. The user is obliged to have his pc clean of keyloggers and yes,obviously, some of them wouldn't be able to keep their end of the bargain. Anything else after that is their responsibility though and the amount of hacked people is way too big to believe that "oh,it's your fault guys, should we remind you of our authenticator that you can buy?". Trying to put the blame to the user is really insulting.
Of course it wasn't. But Diablo II was also possible to play both multi-player and single-player without having to log into Battle.net. Battle.net accounts having become both inseparable from the game and far more valuable than they were in the era of DII, it would seem to behoove Blizzard to have put more effort into securing the now compulsory service.Aeshi said:
Packet sniffing and DRM are two completely different things. DRM is an attempt to keep the software pirates from playing the game without paying for it. What this is here is basically spoofing and packet sniffing. This allows hackers to discover account authorization information from the data stream in order to gain access to a person's account. Blizzard needs to improve their data encryption to keep hackers from getting the account information from the data packets.matrix3509 said:
Why is it that the first thin I though of when reading the title of the article was Blizzard saying:
"Our other games get hacked just as much. True our Authenticator don't always work, but this rampant hacking is a staple among Blizzard games. Like it or shut up."
Update Edit:
"Our other games get hacked just as much. True our Authenticator don't always work, but this rampant hacking is a staple among Blizzard games. Like it or shut up."
You say they are effective but you haven't said that accounts can't get hacked with the Authenticators, but you instead say they are "effective measures"? That leads me to believe that Blizzard knew that the accounts, even WITH the Authenticators, would still have the probability of getting attacked. Even if they say the chance is less it's still not a concrete system and can be bypassed with the same persistence as when bypassing DRM... I guess.Andy Chalk said:
Update Edit:
Ok, NOW they admit it. I guess that's a step forward... in a way. I would still like to have an Authenticator, but all this shit is still on Blizz's head.Andy Chalk said:
God damnit. I wanna play this game with my brother so bad. Run through dungeons and stuff. Now I have to worry more about my stuff than I do for the actual Inferno difficulty. Why did Blizzard make their problems mine ? Do they not want my money ? I actually bought Diablo II and SCII.
I gave real money to buy those 2 titles. I still haven't finished DII but it's one of the finest games I have ever come across. I haven't played SCII cause my PC can't handle it yet. Hear that, Blizzard ? I bought a game I cannot even play! Its' special edition, no less! I put up with the DRM because it was only once every 30 days!
What the crap would make you think that going online only is a good idea ? You just destroyed a whole community, there are people whose entire 2 weeks of work are gone because of something you should have been prepared for, given that the game took 10 years to make.
When are you going to get it ? The people that pirate your games are far far less than the ones that actually show up in a store and buy it. How else do you explain beating your own records with every release you make ?
There are people who waited the better part of a decade for this and when they finally got it, they lost it again. I love the franchise and I love the game I am gonna play but FU, Diablo III. If a cracked offline version gets released, I am downloading that. If I am paying upwards 60 euro to play a game (which for a PC game is quite a lot), I expect no lagging and safety. Since you can't provide neither of these 2, I am not giving you my money.
I gave real money to buy those 2 titles. I still haven't finished DII but it's one of the finest games I have ever come across. I haven't played SCII cause my PC can't handle it yet. Hear that, Blizzard ? I bought a game I cannot even play! Its' special edition, no less! I put up with the DRM because it was only once every 30 days!
What the crap would make you think that going online only is a good idea ? You just destroyed a whole community, there are people whose entire 2 weeks of work are gone because of something you should have been prepared for, given that the game took 10 years to make.
When are you going to get it ? The people that pirate your games are far far less than the ones that actually show up in a store and buy it. How else do you explain beating your own records with every release you make ?
There are people who waited the better part of a decade for this and when they finally got it, they lost it again. I love the franchise and I love the game I am gonna play but FU, Diablo III. If a cracked offline version gets released, I am downloading that. If I am paying upwards 60 euro to play a game (which for a PC game is quite a lot), I expect no lagging and safety. Since you can't provide neither of these 2, I am not giving you my money.
Go and see how many custom games you can launch from an offline SC2. Last time I tried the only thing I seemed to be able to do was to play the campaign, and it said some bullshit about not saving progress. Yay for offline mode, am I right? I remember being able to launch some custom maps by selecting the actual file and executing it with SC2, but the program itself is very hostile to offline play.Mathak said:
So the DRM measures implemented to protect the value of the real-money auction house and keep it an actual balanced economic fixture will be hit without what amounts to theft before it even opens. True it's not counterfeiting, but if Blizzard can't at least make a good show of stopping the small stuff then how are they going to stop it when someone figures out how to counterfeit a real-money-making force?
except hacks were a common occuance in D2PercyBoleyn said:
and D1(D1 you even had a duplication bug and people would happily make a copy of there armor for you)
a game that wasint always online
& only had underground RMT