Blizzard Surprised by Reaction to Online-Only Diablo 3

[Epona]

Hmm...so if it were up to you we would ban cars rather than risk car accidents,

I never said such thing.

And you didn't respond when I asked you would u sacrifice a game so there's a little bit of cheating, just so we can run D3 OFFLINE...

But that is what you're asking Blizz to do.

Have themselves open for myriads of lawsuits, and become a laughing stock of gaming industry.
Because your Internet

is fine but I don't choose to use it to allow Blizzard to monitor and control how I play a game I bought

Why the fuck would you buy anything from these controlling/monitoring assholes to begin with

I did answer it. Read more carefully.

 

[Nesco Nomen]

Also, here are a couple of reasons every game should be able to play offline: when you're travelling, if your ISP goes offline for any period of time(maintenance and such), if you generally have a poor connection, if you're moving house (in my experience, that means a couple of months with no landline phone&internet) etc.

You really shed some light there Yvressian.

Mind you, it's not as revolutionary as the guy living in a country with zero public compassion toward sick,

and with a privately owned money sponge between patient and a health care,
asking compassion and a dialysis suitable Diablo III from a game developer

And you didn't respond when I asked you would u sacrifice a game so there's a little bit of cheating, just so we can run D3 OFFLINE...

But that is what you're asking Blizz to do.

I did answer it. Read more carefully.

Yeah... I guess you're fine with cheating as long as your privacy is protected

 

[Epona]

This always-online scheme will probably have the opposite its intended effect. Diablo 3 might end up the most pirated game of last few years if a cracked version means being able to play without an internet connection. It would actually mean that the pirated version is better than the retail one, and if the better one is also free, you can see where this is going...

Also, here are a couple of reasons every game should be able to play offline: when you're travelling, if your ISP goes offline for any period of time(maintenance and such), if you generally have a poor connection, if you're moving house (in my experience, that means a couple of months with no landline phone&internet) etc.

Oh no, playing offline would mean you could play without asking Blizzard for permission and it would mean you could play without Blizzard being able to monitor you. We can't have that for you might ruin Nesco Nomen's online game and there is nothing more important than that, not even consumer rights.

Remember, when you are forking out $60 plus tax, you are BUYING the game but once you put it in your DVD drive, it becomes a rental subject to Blizzards EULA, check in and monitoring.

 

[fundayz]

Oh no, playing offline would mean you could play without asking Blizzard for permission and it would mean you could play without Blizzard being able to monitor you. We can't have that for you might ruin Nesco Nomen's online game and there is nothing more important than that, not even consumer rights.

Remember, when you are forking out $60 plus tax, you are BUYING the game but once you put it in your DVD drive, it becomes a rental subject to Blizzards EULA, check in and monitoring.

Lol Nesco Nomen has absolutely no clue of what he is talking about. He actually believes that Offline Single Player would affect Online Multiplayer.

Yeah... I guess you're fine with cheating as long as your privacy is protected

Please explain how cheating in a OFFLINE, SINGLE player game affects ANYONE.






Hint: It doesn't.

 

[Nesco Nomen]

2double post xD

 

[Nesco Nomen]

Oh no, playing offline would mean you could play without asking Blizzard for permission and it would mean you could play without Blizzard being able to monitor you. We can't have that for you might ruin Nesco Nomen's online game and there is nothing more important than that, not even consumer rights.

Remember, when you are forking out $60 plus tax, you are BUYING the game but once you put it in your DVD drive, it becomes a rental subject to Blizzards EULA, check in and monitoring.

What consumer rights?
You are not a consumer. You are a forum user who doesn't want to use Internet to play games.

YOU ARE NOT EVEN ON A BLIZZARD'S RADAR MAN!

So chill out with Blizzard trying to controll your tin-foil hats aight

Please explain how cheating in a OFFLINE, SINGLE player game affects ANYONE.
Hint: It doesn't.

Scroll a little back, I am not going to repeat myself

 

[Ympulse]

Vote with your wallets, not your words. It's the only thing ActiBlizz listens to.

 

[Tony2077]

monitor and control. monitor maybe but how the hell will they control what you do are you a marionette now

 

[w00tage]

Blizzard Surprised by Reaction to Online-Only Diablo 3

Blizzard's Robert Bridenbecker says he's surprised at the negative reaction to the news that Diablo 3 [http://www.amazon.com/Diablo-III-Pc/dp/B00178630A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312484335&sr=8-1] will require an always-on internet connection to play.



He also claimed that the always-on requirement has absolutely nothing to do with DRM. "I don't think [DRM] ever came up when we talked about how we want connections to operate," he said. So why not just make an offline mode for people who want to play that way? "You're introducing a separate user flow, a separate path that players are going to go down," he explained. "And, at the end of the day, how many people are going to want to do that?"



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Everyone with a friggin laptop that's traveling, you bonehead. In the car, in the hotel room where the internet sucks because kids are downloading movies to their iPhones, and everywhere else that's not "home with a broadband connection".

Not that I expect this perspective to reach the ivory tower he works in.

 

[Epona]

Vote with your wallets, not your words. It's the only thing ActiBlizz listens to.

Vote with both because if Blizzard doesn't know why you didn't buy, it solves nothing.

 

[fundayz]

They don't appreciate this constant connectivity bullshit any more than I do. Only difference between me and them is that they have the knowledge to do something about it.

Oh, no no. I mean Blizzard. If indeed they'll have failed in trying to prevent pirates from pirating the game, then all their security measures and inconveniences to the consumer will serve as much purpose as a CD-key did in Diablo 2.[/quote]

It's not just about DRM, it's about forcing customers to use their Battle.net and encouraging the use of the RMAH.

Don't be mistaken, Diablo 3 will completely revolve around the RMAH. That is what Blizzard wants, as the potential profit of the RMAH is far higher than the potential profit from box sales.

 

[Tony2077]

They don't appreciate this constant connectivity bullshit any more than I do. Only difference between me and them is that they have the knowledge to do something about it.

Oh, no no. I mean Blizzard. If indeed they'll have failed in trying to prevent pirates from pirating the game, then all their security measures and inconveniences to the consumer will serve as much purpose as a CD-key did in Diablo 2.

It's not just about DRM, it's about forcing customers to use their Battle.net and encouraging the use of the RMAH.

Don't be mistaken, Diablo 3 will completely revolve around the RMAH. That is what Blizzard wants, as the potential profit of the RMAH is far higher than the potential profit from box sales.[/quote]

this doesn't change the fact there is a gold ah as well or did they remove that when i wasn't looking. damn quote thing broke how do i fix it

 

[fundayz]

Scroll a little back, I am not going to repeat myself

Right, I'm sorry.... that I went back and looked at your nonsensical post.

What on EARTH makes you think that Blizzard would allow the transfer of Offline Single Player characters to Online Multiplayer?

If they were willing to do that they would have done it with D2. They didn't, nor would they have to for D3.

 

[Nesco Nomen]

Scroll a little back, I am not going to repeat myself

Right, I'm sorry.... that I went back and looked at your nonsensical post.

What on EARTH makes you think that Blizzard would allow the transfer of Offline Single Player characters to Online Multiplayer?

Read again, I never said Blizz would ALLOW THAT.

For the myriads reasons - There is no way Blizzard would ever allow these OFFLINE characters to be taken ONLINE.

So in essence what all these "give us offline Single Play", are asking is that we ALL,
even those of us with working Internet Connection

have to have, equip, waste time and be dividied between two characters - one online and other for SP. Again NO CHANCE whatsoever - Blizzard is making this one a hugely integrated unique experience.

The only possible solution for all these "2 poor to spend 100kB of traffic per session" people

is to whine enough so Blizz makes a more complicated solution.
Where u have option to do Offline SP and create another character for Multi,
or u play as it is atm - all online.

And this would again compromise security and integrity of chars, and most likely ruin the game for the huge majority of us with a working Internet.

So what all these whinos who are asking OFFLINE for the pure whim should think about is:

Do I really want cheaters around me, just so I can run the Single Player OFFLINE.


B O T T O M L I N E:

If u whine enough, you may get an Offline Diablo 3. Only not in this life.

 

[fundayz]

this doesn't change the fact there is a gold ah as well or did they remove that when i wasn't looking. damn quote thing broke how do i fix it

You realize that the Gold AH and the RMAH are just two sides of the same Auction House right?

The currencies are exchangeable and therefore the RMAH WILL affect the value of gold. Gold farming is going to rampant in D3 and it WILL cause inflation in the Gold AH.

 

[FreakSheet]

Nice to see people jump on the Blizzard hate wagon. I guess some people never get with the times.

Let me point something out here, I never even noticed StarCraft 2 was always online, except for one case where it wasn't since Blizzard was doing maintenance/patching that was told of a while ahead, so my bad for not noticing. Also, saving to my online account was a real life saver, since I upgraded my computer, and everything was deleted. I had to reinstall StarCraft 2, along with a bunch of other non-online games. My non-online games? All data gone. StarCraft 2? Only my replays which are saved to my hard drive were gone, everything else (achievements, single player progression) were A-OK. I had a similar situation with Steam, and saving to the Steam Cloud.

Not to mention, if they look at your gameplay, its not to get off to. With StarCraft 2, they look at replays to better balance the game. I'm sure they'll do the same with Diablo 3. Stop being paranoid saying "I don't want them looking at my games!" It's not like you do drug deals in there (at least, I hope not). They are just trying to give the best, most balanced experience they can, and sometimes feedback in the form of forum posts just doesn't cut it

 

[Tony2077]

this doesn't change the fact there is a gold ah as well or did they remove that when i wasn't looking. damn quote thing broke how do i fix it

You realize that the Gold AH and the RMAH are just two sides of the same Auction House right?

The currencies are exchangeable and therefore the RMAH WILL affect the value of gold. Gold farming is going to rampant in D3 and it WILL cause inflation in the Gold AH.

well unless item drops suck ass i will probably rarely use ah. that said i think its wise to put security in place to prevent stuff like that but who knows since we have no release date there is still a chance they'll change stuff. wait till there is a release date so we know if this is set in stone or not

 

[Baresark]

You will have to make a hero from scratch for online play, Blizzard want to remove the hassle for that. They force you to make one.

Why would you have to make a hero from scratch to play online? There are so many games out there that you can play cooperatively and do not have to make a new character just for it.

YOU SEE GUYS?

Didn't I tell you??


The moment Blizzard allows offline Single Play, they'll be bombarded with petitions from the same mainstream scrubnabs [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pc53tFAo1g#t=00h01m43s]






whining / threatening / pleading Blizzard to let them take their Pimp3d & H4ck3d Character ONLINE, so they can ruin fun for everyone.

There is simply NO WAY anyone can ensure integrity of the pure OFFLINE CHARACTER.

I don't know if this is meant to be insulting or not. But I hardly have any interest in playing online at all, maybe some PVP if indeed the game is not completely broken by their in game store. I'm not even sure if I am gonna get it. I have not, nor will I ever cheat in an online game. =p

 

[fundayz]

Read again, I never said Blizz would ALLOW THAT.

No, that is EXACTLY what you implied...

So what all these whinos who are asking OFFLINE for the pure whim should think about is:

Do I really want cheaters around me, just so I can run the Single Player OFFLINE.

...the ONLY way you could get cheaters from Offline in Online is if Blizzard allowed character transfers between the two modes.

have to have, equip, waste time and be dividied between two characters - one online and other for SP.

Except nothing could be farther from the truth.

Online mode allows you to use your character for multiplayer as well as single player sessions. If you had even played D2 you would know that...

 

[Nesco Nomen]

You realize that the Gold AH and the RMAH are just two sides of the same Auction House right?

The currencies are exchangeable and therefore the RMAH WILL affect the value of gold. Gold farming is going to rampant in D3 and it WILL cause inflation in the Gold AH.

Oh noes... here we go with Milton Friedmans

Game is not out yet, but economy is already ruined.
Poor western gamer is being destroyed by the Blizz & Chinesse farmers lethal combo.

But instead of simply leaving the ruined game, they decide to stay because they are sheeple who just love being bonged