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Autistic Lemon post=18.70358.689100 said:
Twilight.
Need I say more?
I have to read the first book in my young adult lit class and when the professor mentioned it, all the girls started swooning and I said, "You guys do realize that Edward Cullen is a fictional character, right?" They all stared at me in abject horror. Then started in on all the ways he's perfect. Um, he's a vampire...how is that attractive? I'm pretty sure the fact that the book's "heroine" wants to sleep with him is necrophilia as he is indeed dead and I don't understand why he has to marry her. He's a vampire and so he can't exactly walk into a courthouse and file for a marriage license. Seriously, it's Anne Rice for the emo-set. Danielle Steele with fangs, if you will.
 

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Just read Metamorphosis and Other Stories by Franz Kafka. Metamorphosis was good, a nice short piece, which as they say, I found to be rather Kafkaesque. Good stuff. Then I move onto the next one: The Great Wall of China. I swear I was struggling to not put the book down. Really...really dull.

And that's a problem I seem to be having with a lot of old classics. I can rarely enjoy the language used, and only occasionally find myself enjoying the story of said classics. for example, Brave New World was listed as an example of a book to avoid. And while I don't really agree with that, I can still think of plenty of reasons why one -would- avoid it. One the primary one's be the language used. I mean...the way everyone talks, you assume everyone came from that era in American movie history where everyone talks ever so politely and dignified. And indeed, keeping in mind that the books are supposedly set in the future, which of course Huxley probably did envision as a future, of at least the one he occupied, as of course a lot of science fiction writers did, and still do today. It still left a weird, if not exactly awful taste on my mind.

The opposite problem occurs in other sci-fi, where the language is -too- different than what a modern audience would be used to, where the author has gone out of their way to put in made up words and slang to make things sound futuristic. And while, yes that does make some kind of sense, after all, will people really be saying sh** and f**k in 4000 years? Or call a piece of ground transportation a car? Or a spaceship a spaceship? But..I've yet to read anything that does this right. Some like Iain M. Banks does this a lot in his Culture and other Sci-Fi novels like the Algerbraist. Others, I think, like Gene Wolfe with The Book of the Long Sun series comes close to doing it well, but, as with a lot of Gene Wolfe stuff, the wierdness tends to overflow. Dune was another example where I thought in kinda worked, as for the most part, a lot of the terms were actually explained within the confines of the book.
 

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Autistic Lemon post=18.70358.689100 said:
Twilight.
Need I say more?
I have to read the first book in my young adult lit class and when the professor mentioned it, all the girls started swooning and I said, "You guys do realize that Edward Cullen is a fictional character, right?" They all stared at me in abject horror. Then started in on all the ways he's perfect. Um, he's a vampire...how is that attractive? I'm pretty sure the fact that the book's "heroine" wants to sleep with him is necrophilia as he is indeed dead and I don't understand why he has to marry her. He's a vampire and so he can't exactly walk into a courthouse and file for a marriage license. Seriously, it's Anne Rice for the emo-set. Danielle Steele with fangs, if you will.
I haven't exactly read the book; I read the first chapter and threw it away. What exactly was the plot, besides some vampire being a girl's love interest or vice-versa?
 

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Alleged_Alec post=18.70358.689061 said:
2: The Silmarillion. Again, I love Tolkien and his works, but I found this piece of work to be unreadable.
the silmarillion is brilliant, i must have read it a million times, but then i take what tolkein wrote as word of god, so its probably a personal thing.

books to avoid imo are thrillers, and i mean the whole genre. i mean sure you read just one of them then its awesome, but all books end up with one guy being chased by the whole world and whatever and just everyone is too good a strategist for any sustained suspension of disbelief.
 

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The Sorrow post=18.70358.689128 said:
The most recent Artemis Fowl book.
Seriously, they took a good idea and piledrived it into th ground.
Really? "Artemis Fowl and the Time Paradox?" What went wrong?

I was seriously anticipating reading it.
 

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Mythbhavd post=18.70358.690171 said:
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Mythbhavd post=18.70358.689116 said:
"A Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley
I liked that book.
Yeah, it's one that tends to polarize people. They either really enjoy it or they really don't. I read 1984 and Brave New World back to back. Scary thing was that I saw today's society as a mix of the bad parts of both.
I agree with you Mythbhavd; I loved those books, and can't really see how anyone could not. It's a scary reminder of what could happen if we let the government take too much power.
 
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Lord Krunk post=18.70358.691130 said:
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Autistic Lemon post=18.70358.689100 said:
Twilight.
Need I say more?
I have to read the first book in my young adult lit class and when the professor mentioned it, all the girls started swooning and I said, "You guys do realize that Edward Cullen is a fictional character, right?" They all stared at me in abject horror. Then started in on all the ways he's perfect. Um, he's a vampire...how is that attractive? I'm pretty sure the fact that the book's "heroine" wants to sleep with him is necrophilia as he is indeed dead and I don't understand why he has to marry her. He's a vampire and so he can't exactly walk into a courthouse and file for a marriage license. Seriously, it's Anne Rice for the emo-set. Danielle Steele with fangs, if you will.
I haven't exactly read the book; I read the first chapter and threw it away. What exactly was the plot, besides some vampire being a girl's love interest or vice-versa?
That's basically it. Just her whining and complaining that he won't sleep with her and him saying they have to be married.
 

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stompy post=18.70358.691158 said:
Mythbhavd post=18.70358.690171 said:
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Mythbhavd post=18.70358.689116 said:
"A Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley
I liked that book.
Yeah, it's one that tends to polarize people. They either really enjoy it or they really don't. I read 1984 and Brave New World back to back. Scary thing was that I saw today's society as a mix of the bad parts of both.
I agree with you Mythbhavd; I loved those books, and can't really see how anyone could not. It's a scary reminder of what could happen if we let the government take too much power.
Well, drug addled as they may have been, I didn't find Brave New World's vision -too- depressing, I mean, sure they were what one could consider intellectually dead (at least the common populance), but, they were happy right? Although, that doesn't make you feel any better for the 'Savages'.
 

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There were a few i read which were just horrible and have no idea why i was even interested in them. The Age Of Five trilogy by Trudi Canavan. A complete waste of time. Her other trilogy was good though, The Black Magician books.
 

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Death Magnetic post=18.70358.691194 said:
The bible and other religious books as such.
Mmmm, I wouldn't say that now, maybe you're just saying that out of a dislike for religion, but don't discount their texts on account of that. Some of them, yes even the bible, that is when they aren't harping on about laws and lineages, contain some pretty good stories, mostly morality fables and such. And, I'm not saying this as a religious person myself, I'm not, just that one shouldn't let their distaste for the use of something get in the way for their enjoyment of the subject itself. Although, maybe that's not what you were saying at all, and just consider the Bible or any other religious works to be bad reads. ^^'

Personally, even if I don't partake in the beliefs, I still find the lore, history and stories surrounding religion to be fascinating. Somewhat of the same kind of interest one would have with Norse or Greek mythology for example.
 

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aswiftlytiltingreality post=18.70358.691171 said:
Lord Krunk post=18.70358.691130 said:
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Autistic Lemon post=18.70358.689100 said:
Twilight.
Need I say more?
I have to read the first book in my young adult lit class and when the professor mentioned it, all the girls started swooning and I said, "You guys do realize that Edward Cullen is a fictional character, right?" They all stared at me in abject horror. Then started in on all the ways he's perfect. Um, he's a vampire...how is that attractive? I'm pretty sure the fact that the book's "heroine" wants to sleep with him is necrophilia as he is indeed dead and I don't understand why he has to marry her. He's a vampire and so he can't exactly walk into a courthouse and file for a marriage license. Seriously, it's Anne Rice for the emo-set. Danielle Steele with fangs, if you will.
I haven't exactly read the book; I read the first chapter and threw it away. What exactly was the plot, besides some vampire being a girl's love interest or vice-versa?
That's basically it. Just her whining and complaining that he won't sleep with her and him saying they have to be married.
Oh. It's official:

Twilight = FAIL
 

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Twilight


unless you are a 15 year old girl, DO NOT READ THIS BOOK AND BURN ANY COPIES GIVEN TO YOU but thats just my opinion, ignore it if you wish. Your sanity will thank you later.


Oh, now that i see previous discussion, you know Twilight=fail no wait EPIC FAIL. Go read The Codex Alera or The Dresden Files, good stuff. Or Dies The Fire, or D&D fiction. Thats some heavy stuff there, especially Eberron fiction. I endorse Jim Butcher and S. M Sterling as 2 of my fav authors besides J.R.R Tolkien, Brian Jaques and Erin Hunter (actually 2 people). I am writing my own novel sereis called Memoirs Of A Ghost-Theif. I read A Game Of Thrones, Very hard to follow.
 

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Margaret Atwood's books in general...

Orson Scott Card's "Ender" series, but this gets tricky. The first two books are great, I think. Then there are a whole bunch of terribly boring ones... and then I'm told the newer stuff is quite good.

And from what I know, Twilight is awful.
 

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Twilight. OH MY GOD. What a shitty series that is. It's basically Buffy the Vampire Slayer meets Harry Potter meets some shitty romance novel. And my does it suck. Stephanie myers can burn in hell for all i care.
 

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Vortigar post=18.70358.690980 said:
Kevin J Anderson isn't all bad. Frank Herbert managed to screw Dune up all by himself before they tapped Anderson to continue it (he's under contract for it, it could very well be he's indeed under deadline to produce words for it). I'm pretty much enjoying his saga of seven suns, it's not incredibly even in characters or plot, but some parts are written very well indeed. It isn't very sophisticated, but it rolls along incredibly well. But then, Seven Suns is his pet project, he took his time to do it (oh hell, book seven is out?).
That almost makes it worse. The pair of them have been spitting out the Dune books at almost exactly 1 per year. Knowing that he _can_ take his time to write decent works just makes me wonder all the more why he hasn't stopped, pulled Brian Herbert aside, and helped him do things the right way. His name is on these books as well, so these are representing him out there in the literary world. They're embarrassing.
 

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The Harry Potter series. I won't lie, I read all of a page, but I worked at a book store when one of the books was on the way and so many little kids asked me about it every three minutes (10 kids would ask it 100 times in a couple of hours) and tainted what little chance it had.
 

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Oh god. I'm quite frightened now. I haven't read the Twilight series but I saw my friend last week and she went on abotu how she'd think I'd really enjoy it. Was she having a subtle stab at me? Or does she honestly think I'd like it? I'm not sure which is more frightening!
 

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I'm happy that there people who don't like SOT from Goodkind.

Someone gave me the first Book, "Wizard's First Rule" to read.
It was so...immature.

Gore? Check.
Horrible, Horrible Naming of the Bad Guy? Check.
Torture and Femdom Games for what feels like a hundred pages? Check.
A female lead that can only exist in the mind of someone who jerks off to fantasy books? Check.

Still, i will watch the Movie (or was ist a series?) that is being produced based on Sword of Truth. Hopefully that will at least make me laugh.


Other than that, there were not much books i did not like.
Most disappointing was probably "Children of the Night" by Dan Simmons. Picked it up because i loved the Hyperion Cantos by Simmons, and was interesting enough, thanks to the fun portrayal of vampirism as a realistic sickness and some tense chapters.
But towards the end it became very generic and dull...
 

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I'm going to have to say the Eragon series. The first book was bad enough, it recycled elements that have been done many times before, only better, and the main character has a personality the size of a thimble. You don't even really feel concerned about him because you can't relate to him. And then, in the second book, Paolini made one of the biggest mistakes I've ever seen. He takes the one character that has a semblance of personality, removes him from the story in the first chapter, and then throws him back in as a cliched 'friend turned enemy' character that I saw coming from a mile away. Also, the part of the second book where Eragon is training with the elves was brutal to read.

That and I hate his name. You took the word Dragon and replaced one of the letters to make Eragon, because he gets a dragon! That's really clever.