Borderlands: a.k.a. why bother with Fallout 3?

[Archon_Original]

Dragon Age: Origins was at the very top of my list.

Not really interested in Modern Warfare 2, though. I get enough of that stuff by simply turning on the news.

Amen! I fail to see the appeal of a war game based in reality. WWII sims I get and understand as there's an appeal to the historical accuracy and recreation of the era. I understand the appeal of a war game that's not based in reality at all. But why, would you want to play a GAME that simulates what some people are going through right now?

Also, I like my game to feel like a game and when I get shot and die in one hit it's a little too real for my liking.

We play games to experience things we normally cant or dont want to do(due to risk) with the risk factor removed!

 

[Srkkl]

1) I said "hella" only once. Can't a guy speak casually every once in a while?
2) Uh... vehicles actually would be really nice in Fallout 3. Trudging by foot gets really old after a while. Even Oblivion has horses to compensate for this... or is it the fact that the Fallout 3 world is too small for that?
3) How am I assuming too much? Because I feel that it looks more vibrant? Because I feel the supposed "87 bazillion guns" will allow for significant replayability?

So cool your jets, fanboy. I'm not trying to bash Fallout 3; I'm just saying that Borderlands strikes me as a more enjoyable and lasting experience for myself.

1. Hella is a terrible "casual" term.
2. Did you not know there was a fast travel feature? And vehicles would have defiantly been out of place.
3. Yes Borderlands does look like a good game, I wasn't really bashing it in my posts but saying it's better than Fallout 3 is like saying rice is better than a wrench.

Also, really? So for defending a game that I like makes me a "fanboy" because if so your a Borderlands "fanboy" and I'm a "fanboy" for many other games.

 

[Srkkl]

oh so we have a bad attention span if we're bored of fallout 3? fallout 3 is nothing more then a carbon copy of fallout 1 and 2. nothing new. its boring. your merely shooting something you shot before but in 3d. boring. just because a game allows you to shoot things doesn't make it intelligent, its story and dialogue that does, and bethesda always fails in that regard. damn bethesda fanboys thinking they're superior.

i hope borderlands kills fallout. that series should stay dead. we don't need another sonic, or star wars cashcow.

1. Oh yeah because a different setting, timezone, and storyline is so copy and paste.
2. I don't think a game that's pretty damn different from a franchise is going to kill said franchise.
3. I really don't get how defending a game makes me a "fanboy", also I don't think I made myself sound "superior" and if I did it wasn't my intention.

Also if you want to personally attack me you should use better grammar, it makes your opinions seem more educated and respectable.

 

[bcponpcp27]

Yeah....no your totally wrong.

1st, I've replayed Fallout about 5 times, and plan to replay again when I run out of new games. It's just one of those games you can play again and again.

2nd There is hardly "nothing to do" in the wasteland. There is plenty to discover after the quests are over. There are a bunch of little hideaways and goodies scattered throughout the wasteland.

3rd VATS is pretty much awesome. Seriously, it makes the FPS work better, and cooler. Watching limbs fly off in every direction and the body rips itself inside out never gets old. Ever.

Finally, Borderlands doesn't seem to warrant the comparison. The gameplay seems vastly different, despite both being 1st person. As far as I can tell, there is much more emphasis on the actual guns and shooting bits than Fallout. In Fallout, that is only one small aspect, that happens to be executed very well.

Borderlands seems like a really cool game, but it's not a reason to not get Fallout 3 GoTY edition.

 

[Weaver]

If you already played fallout 3 on the PC then there isn't a point to getting it on the PS3. Furthermore fallout 3 is a year old now so comparing the two in a general sense that most gamers would care about doesn't make sense.

I guess the GOTY edition of F3 is worth if you haven't played before but... I just don't really get the point of the thread? It's like you're just thinking aloud here.

 

[quack35]

It's Infamous vs. Prototype all over again.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

My aim was more to see if people agreed with my viewpoint.

I will disagree, I have found Fallout 3 to be the joint most replayable game I've ever had, along with it's cousin Oblivion.

There are so many ways to play it, so many weapons and styles to pick, so many different ways to finish quests, and so danmn much to discover... I have over 250 hours logged in and I'm still finding new things.

Borderlands and F3 are gonna be so so different, but hopefully BL will be great too.

 

[Kimarous]

1) I said "hella" only once. Can't a guy speak casually every once in a while?
2) Uh... vehicles actually would be really nice in Fallout 3. Trudging by foot gets really old after a while. Even Oblivion has horses to compensate for this... or is it the fact that the Fallout 3 world is too small for that?
3) How am I assuming too much? Because I feel that it looks more vibrant? Because I feel the supposed "87 bazillion guns" will allow for significant replayability?

So cool your jets, fanboy. I'm not trying to bash Fallout 3; I'm just saying that Borderlands strikes me as a more enjoyable and lasting experience for myself.

1. Hella is a terrible "casual" term.
2. Did you not know there was a fast travel feature? And vehicles would have defiantly been out of place.
3. Yes Borderlands does look like a good game, I wasn't really bashing it in my posts but saying it's better than Fallout 3 is like saying rice is better than a wrench.

Also, really? So for defending a game that I like makes me a "fanboy" because if so your a Borderlands "fanboy" and I'm a "fanboy" for many other games.

1. And you have terrible logic, so bite me.

2. Yeah, I know about fast-travel. Doesn't stop the fact that it's fucking boring trudging across the blandest wasteland ever to actually attain fast-travel points. As for vehicles being out of place, might I remind you that Fallout 2 had a vehicle, the Enclave has vehicles, and that there are defunct yet probably fixable vehicles EVERYWHERE?

3. That analogy is just moronic. Let me spell it out for you. Fallout 3 is a hybrid FPS and RPG set in a futuristic apocalyptic wasteland full of mutants and hostile raiders. Borderlands is a hybrid FPS and RPG set in a futuristic apocalyptic wasteland full of alien monsters and hostile bandits. Oh yes, "rice versus wrench" is SO accurate! [/sarcasm]

 

[Kimarous]

Yeah....no your totally wrong.

1st, I've replayed Fallout about 5 times, and plan to replay again when I run out of new games. It's just one of those games you can play again and again.

2nd There is hardly "nothing to do" in the wasteland. There is plenty to discover after the quests are over. There are a bunch of little hideaways and goodies scattered throughout the wasteland.

3rd VATS is pretty much awesome. Seriously, it makes the FPS work better, and cooler. Watching limbs fly off in every direction and the body rips itself inside out never gets old. Ever.

Finally, Borderlands doesn't seem to warrant the comparison. The gameplay seems vastly different, despite both being 1st person. As far as I can tell, there is much more emphasis on the actual guns and shooting bits than Fallout. In Fallout, that is only one small aspect, that happens to be executed very well.

Borderlands seems like a really cool game, but it's not a reason to not get Fallout 3 GoTY edition.

1. Perhaps for you; in my personal case, I didn't find it compelling enough to replay.

2. Again, probably more a case of things not being compelling enough for me. I got several unique items, including some specialized weapons and armour, but they either didn't seem useful or they made things a bit too easy.

3. I feel that VATS, while very useful, tends to make things a bit too simplistic. Also, I disagree and say that the gore factor DOES get old.

4. See my above post as to the comparison.

 

[The Cheezy One]

Dragon Age: Origins was at the very top of my list.

Not really interested in Modern Warfare 2, though. I get enough of that stuff by simply turning on the news.

Amen! I fail to see the appeal of a war game based in reality.

realoty? have you seen the demos?
sorry, maybe i missed washington DC being blown up

It's Infamous vs. Prototype all over again.

wouldnt mind seeing the siren in a bra

 

[kotorfan04]

Okay to hop in for the hell of it Borderlands has been marketing itself as more of runny shooty upgrade weapons and choose one of four classes type thing. Certainly RPG elements, but the emphasis would be on the runny shooty action that I find so enjoyable.

Fallout 3 is definiately more in the RPG massive amount of HP side of things... after all if I shoot anything in the head five times with a sniper rifle it needs to die, so calling Fallout 3 a shooter would be as accurate as calling Oblivion a medieval life simulator, while on some level it is true I doubt that many medieval lives had you battling demonic hellspawn. So while Borderlands strives to be a shooter with some good rpg additions FO 3 was definiately an RPG at heart and really only had guns because the setting needed it, and even though guns are present you could go through the game without firing a shot.

Right and one last thing the similarity in setting should not be a major point as to why the two games are simillar. After all both Monty Python and the Holy Grail and Lord of the Rings were set in medieval realms with some fantastical elements. Simillar settings two completely different types of movies.

If you think you will like Borderlands get it, if you really think you are over Fallout 3 then don't get it, or at least wait for the price to drop a bit. Doesn't seem that complex, but asking a community of recluses and retards (Self included) to compare a game that doesn't exist yet to a game that has caused widely polarized reactions amongst players seems a bit of an odd way to do things.

EDIT: At Equinox. Really you missed the invasion of DC? It was led by Activision who funded the army with their dirty Guitar Hero money as part of a marketing move in the hopes of drumming up sales and crowning Bobby Kotic emperor of America.

 

[scotth266]

Two different games, two different experiences. Enough said.

I mean sheesh, this is starting to get like last season's "PROTOTYPE VS INFAMOUS" debate. They're two seperate games that do entirely different things, so I don't see any reason to try and compare them.

 

[mdk31]

I would have been interested in Borderlands if they didn't choose a crappy "art style".

 

[sms_117b]

I got the game of the year edition for the PS3, it's very, erm, glitch ridden isn't the phrase, erm, well, it freezes, a lot, a hell of a lot. That being said I got it and Brutal Legend the same day and I've played them both the same, I do and always will love the game, yes, including the original ending.

On a slightly different note, I have Fallout 3 on the PC too, but on there, I don't have all the DLC (yet) it's mainly the mods that keep the game more than fresh enough every week to carry one playing, then going back to the PS3 version, the two are very different games now.

 

[Arachon]

[...]fallout 3 is nothing more then a carbon copy of fallout 1 and 2.[...]

I wish that Fallout 3 had been a carbon copy of FO1&2, alas, it wasn't.

To OP: I'd recommend Borderlands, it seems like a fun enough game, either that or Fallout 1/2.

 

[Sven und EIN HUND]

Furthermore, I feel that Fallout 3 has very, VERY low replayability. I started another character prior to the patch debacle, playing as Bad Karma instead of my initial Good Karma... despite slight variations in my character's behaviour, the game felt exactly the same. It doesn't help that the quests feel very, very limited. My initial character was at a point where I was desperately hunting for something to do. Maybe Oblivion seemed hella bigger with plenty to explore, loot, and buy; either way, Fallout 3 almost seemed... stripped.

I'm in your position on this one 100%.

Also yeah, you don't need replies for this one, you pretty much ended the thread by presenting more than enough good reasons for not buying GOTY edition... You don't really need input.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Don't make the mistake of passing judgement before this game has even been released. People tend to preach how one game will top another before the end result is even available to them. Just wait and see.

 

[TPiddy]

Dragon Age: Origins was at the very top of my list.

Not really interested in Modern Warfare 2, though. I get enough of that stuff by simply turning on the news.

Amen! I fail to see the appeal of a war game based in reality.

realoty? have you seen the demos?
sorry, maybe i missed washington DC being blown up

Congrats on taking my quote way too literally and missing the meaning. "Reality" means set on this planet, in this time, with countries that exist right now. That hits too close to home for me. It's obviously an insanely popular series, but I just don't see the appeal in it.