Borderlands: a.k.a. why bother with Fallout 3?

[Slash Dementia]

I have to agree with you.
I thought that Fallout 3's replay value was extremely low, the characters seemed to be quite boring to be honest and the world just got old real quick.

Borderlands looked like it would be much more fun, but after watching a few videos, the combat looked boring as well (it was basically strafe left or right in a circle to not get hit). The addition of multi-player must really help. I can care less about the loot and art-stlye.

If I were to get one post-apocalyptic game, it would be Rage.

Why don't you choose another game instead of Fallout 3: GOTY? Modern Warfare 2, perchance? Dragon Age: Origins (I'm buying it on release), maybe even Assassin's Creed 2 (looks promising). Just do a little game hunting, you're bound to find something that's better than Fallout 3 this holiday season.

 

[anthony87]

If you've actually PLAYED Fallout 3 before then where's the dilemma?

 

[metalmmaniac]

I loved Fallout 3, and i've been looking forward to Borderlands for months, but they both have their own pros and cons.

Fallout is more heavily an RPG with a clunky (at best) FPS combat system. The story is more in depth and the NPCs offer more options and dialogue trees.

Borderlands is a FPS at its core, with shit-tons of guns. the story is heavily placed on the back-burner, and NPCs offer little to no choices or dialogue.

Both games are definately worth it, but if you can go with only one, obviously Borderlands since you've played FO3 already. (Borderlands also has the DLC that should be coming out before the year's end)

 

[Ironic]

Borderlands because it has so many guns and Co-op

87 Bazillion to be exact.

Also, it looks like something a bit fresh.

 

[Mr Wednesday]

Borderlands is really the Diablo series with guns it's a heavy Action RPG but as the primary mechanic is FPS with a greater emphasis on player skill than behind the scenes number driven
story is linear with pre-defined characters (with diablo skill trees) and no dialoge choices again like Diablo.

I'm not really sure how Diablo is not "western."

 

[Doc Theta Sigma]

Dragon Age: Origins was at the very top of my list.

Not really interested in Modern Warfare 2, though. I get enough of that stuff by simply turning on the news.

Amen! I fail to see the appeal of a war game based in reality. WWII sims I get and understand as there's an appeal to the historical accuracy and recreation of the era. I understand the appeal of a war game that's not based in reality at all. But why, would you want to play a GAME that simulates what some people are going through right now?

Also, I like my game to feel like a game and when I get shot and die in one hit it's a little too real for my liking.

We play games to experience things we normally cant or dont want to do(due to risk) with the risk factor removed!

I may have missed your point entirely but I too can't enjoy games which have too much reality. I found Fallout 3 to be rather boring and depressing and this is coming from someone who loves his RPGs. Or Bioware's RPGs to be specific. Awesome avatar by the way. Always nice to see another Orzhov fan

I'm personally looking forward to Borderlands much more than I did Fallout 3. I played Fallout 3 for a while and got bored quite quickly. Sure the atmosphere was great but as I said before, it was too realistic and depressing for my tastes. I always prefer manic fun to gritty realism.

 

[shwnbob]

I don't know... I like both games I can't choose between the two.

 

[jamesworkshop]

Borderlands is really the Diablo series with guns it's a heavy Action RPG but as the primary mechanic is FPS with a greater emphasis on player skill than behind the scenes number driven
story is linear with pre-defined characters (with diablo skill trees) and no dialoge choices again like Diablo.

I'm not really sure how Diablo is not "western."

Didn't say it wasn't, Western RPG is a genre rather than location typifiyed by fully createable characters and multipul dialogue trees whereas Diablo only really uses the stat and character progression rather than character development through a story, with a fast paced real time combat system

 

[GonzoGamer]

So yea, considering you already have Fallout, I can see why Borderlands is more inviting.

Fallout is an RPG with FPS elements and Borderlands is a FPS with RPG elements.
What sounds better to you?
I hope I'm wrong but I seriously doubt Borderlands will be as good.

 

[Archon_Original]

There's no way Borderlands will be better than Fallout 3.

Borderlands is at best a Co-Op FPS with Diablo elements (I.E a non-fail Hellgate London)

Fallout 3 is one of the best gaming experiences of the last decade.

So yeah, Fallout 3 teabags Borderlands in every area.

After reading this post, that noise that happens when someone gets something wrong in family fortunes, resounded around the room!


As everyones said they are both different types of games aiming at different things! Borderlands will primarily be a fun multiplayer especially good as a 4 player on the consoles! F3 is singleplayer only doing its own thing! Perhaps its a question of which has a larger amount of people in the world? - Catagory A: people who enjoy games played with freinds or other people around the world who are more keen on something more lighthearted and a bit more social! or Catagory B: Loneresque dreamers, who like to throw themselves at the idea of RPG. obviously i expect the biggest amount of people will enjoy both ideas as i do! either way its just personal preference to different genres and styles.

But saying fallout 3 is one of the best gaming experiences of the last decade is your opinion, and a terrible one if i say so myself! It is very oblivionesque! As Zero Punctuation said, its like they took the oblivion world and threw loads of rubble all over it, and some invisible walls to my disapointment! Even got some reminisence to bioshock with its 50's cartoon men.
As a roleplay game it fell massively short for me as the story was uninteresting and boring! its fun sandbox take, allowed too much deviation from the story(which i did alot as the story was crap! and i had a whole wasteland to explore!), it felt like one of the recent GTA's story-wise! once i got past atom i couldnt care less where my dad was since all the characters in the game were bland and just didnt seem like people at all. Oblivion was the same!! as i said in a previous post thats what let the game down the most! there have been a hell of a lot of good gaming experiences in the last 10 years! If i was really to put a bethesda one in there, it would have to be Oblivion which managed to hold my attention for a good deal longer as it came out first, and is what i would probably turn to if i wanted to play a goblins and trolls style RPG. But i would say neither of the games were gripping enough to have such a high title as game expereince of the decade!(Valve would do well in that area however!)
An RPG needs a good story like vampire the masquerade: bloodlines, even tho it was released unfinished due to the company going bust before completion, the story was vastly superior to oblivion and fallout 3! Even a lot of FPS's have better stories than they did such as the Halflife series, Halo and Unreal 2 if your even old enough to have played it? Im guessing your a young gamer, to go stating opinions like that!

I must admit, i have not played any of the DLC or mods, so my comments and opinions cannot include them! they may make a massive difference to the game, i dont know? I still enjoyed Fallout 3 very much despite my rant of disapointment, and i will probably buy it for my PC in the future second hand or when the price comes down. I just had to protest at labeling it one of the best games in the last 10 years! i mean...thats a long time where many other games should take priority over fallout 3!! You could much easier argue one of the best games of last year!

 

[dragonburner]

They both seem good and kind of different. If you already played it,why buy it again?

 

[Archon_Original]

I may have missed your point entirely but I too can't enjoy games which have too much reality. I found Fallout 3 to be rather boring and depressing and this is coming from someone who loves his RPGs. Or Bioware's RPGs to be specific. Awesome avatar by the way. Always nice to see another Orzhov fan

I'm personally looking forward to Borderlands much more than I did Fallout 3. I played Fallout 3 for a while and got bored quite quickly. Sure the atmosphere was great but as I said before, it was too realistic and depressing for my tastes. I always prefer manic fun to gritty realism.

i was just saying the basic aim of why we play computer games, that it allows us to experience things without actual risk to ourselves! as in its not everyones cup of tea to risk getting shot and shouted at to experience the modern battlefield, so why not pay £30 and have some fun on your computer!?

i actually had to google Orzhov to find out what you were talking about. is it the magic the gathering orzhov you reffered to? as far as i know my avatar is just some cool fantasy artwork of a wraith! Been gathering a collection of it on my compter for such occasions!

 

[Doc Theta Sigma]

I may have missed your point entirely but I too can't enjoy games which have too much reality. I found Fallout 3 to be rather boring and depressing and this is coming from someone who loves his RPGs. Or Bioware's RPGs to be specific. Awesome avatar by the way. Always nice to see another Orzhov fan

I'm personally looking forward to Borderlands much more than I did Fallout 3. I played Fallout 3 for a while and got bored quite quickly. Sure the atmosphere was great but as I said before, it was too realistic and depressing for my tastes. I always prefer manic fun to gritty realism.

i was just saying the basic aim of why we play computer games, that it allows us to experience things without actual risk to ourselves! as in its not everyones cup of tea to risk getting shot and shouted at to experience the modern battlefield, so why not pay £30 and have some fun on your computer!?

i actually had to google Orzhov to find out what you were talking about. is it the magic the gathering orzhov you reffered to? as far as i know my avatar is just some cool fantasy artwork of a wraith! Been gathering a collection of it on my compter for such occasions!

Yeah it was that I was referring to and I just had an epic facepalm. I can't believe nobody here plays that game XD

 

[Archon_Original]

I may have missed your point entirely but I too can't enjoy games which have too much reality. I found Fallout 3 to be rather boring and depressing and this is coming from someone who loves his RPGs. Or Bioware's RPGs to be specific. Awesome avatar by the way. Always nice to see another Orzhov fan

I'm personally looking forward to Borderlands much more than I did Fallout 3. I played Fallout 3 for a while and got bored quite quickly. Sure the atmosphere was great but as I said before, it was too realistic and depressing for my tastes. I always prefer manic fun to gritty realism.

i was just saying the basic aim of why we play computer games, that it allows us to experience things without actual risk to ourselves! as in its not everyones cup of tea to risk getting shot and shouted at to experience the modern battlefield, so why not pay £30 and have some fun on your computer!?

i actually had to google Orzhov to find out what you were talking about. is it the magic the gathering orzhov you reffered to? as far as i know my avatar is just some cool fantasy artwork of a wraith! Been gathering a collection of it on my compter for such occasions!

Yeah it was that I was referring to and I just had an epic facepalm. I can't believe nobody here plays that game XD

i played it for a short while back in my younger days where i was an even bigger geek! so i know what it is and still have some freinds that go to championships and such!

 

[VanityGirl]

Could you explain how you think fallout 3 could be more intense?! Thats certainly one thing i fail to see becoming likely! That was what fallout 3 lacked most! It was rarely ever intense! only when your were in the middle an enemy zone with only your BB gun left with ammo, enimies at every corner!
so far it seems that everyone agrees borderlands will be more of a shooter and less of an RPG compared to F3. FPS are always more intense than RPG's! so that plus the fact its more colourful, vibrant and faster paced means that in comparing their combat systems we all surely expect borderlands will be more intense. outside combat= borderlands should offer combat customisation through customisable vehicles and countless weapons and loot since we expect a largly more combat based game, whereas F3 has the more in depth RPG side to it, with a story and bland, uninteresting, shallow attempts at characters!

If fallout 3 ends up being more intense that borderlands, il know ive wasted my money!

As for the Xmas list! yes thats defo the best suggestion so far! wait two weeks b4 handing your family your Xmas list! but since you already have fallout 3 for the pc i would suggest thinking of borderlands as a strong possibility and another different game you might fancy! like left 4 dead 2! cos if theres a strapping young lad out there who doesnt like the idea of him and his freinds using shotguns and chainsaw's to frying pans against hordes of zombies, there is something wrong with him!!

I played Borderlands, Fallout 3 is more intense.
Borderlands is very fun, I won't say it's not. You can check my XBL achievement list if you don't believe I've played it.
I didn't have college today I so decided to just play Borderlands allll day. It's a good game, but not really intense.
Borderlands has a lot of comical things that happen in it and some of the names like "Badass Raider" make the game less dark and more hilarious.

But, since I played it, I can say that comparing it to Fallout would be absolutely ridiculous. Borderland's stat system (if it can be called that) is very different from Fallout's. Also, since each character has their own "superpower" type thing, it makes the game less challenging.
I'm already level 14 in Borderlands. I started playing it at 10:30 and I stopped at 1:30 to go back to Gamestop to see if Way of the Samurai 3 is out.

But, like I said, less intense. I don't feel like the challenge is there like it was in Fallout 3. I love Borderlands and I will continue to play it tomorrow so I can kill more stuff. Woo!