British = English?
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Essex isn't a city, it's a county, much in the same way Texas isn't a city.Eldritch Warlord said:
Anyway, I disagree with that comparison, countries in the United Kingdom aren't comparable to states in America.
If an English person were to make derogatory remarks about a Welsh person (like "all Welsh people like to shag sheep and their language is stupid"), then that would be racist.
If a person from California made a similarly derogatory remark about a person from Texas, would that be racist?
Because although we are united by a single monarchy, we are separate states of the Kingdom. Notice, we are not separate states of the "country", as the UK is not a country. It is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. However British is a different term - I myself belong to a Scottish family with roots in Ireland. I am not English, although I am partly Welsh.CIA said:
I am technically a Scottish citizen, and exist as a Scot. But since them English conquered us quite some time ago, we were the only chaps who stuck with the Empire. The British Empire was the Empire of Great Britain which was the same GB that it is now, it's just that we're different countries so embedded under one banner that even we class ourselves as "British".
No, and neither would an Englishman insulting a Welshman. They're both of the same race, thus it's not racism.Jamash said:
Now, let it not be said that there are no derogatory statements made between the states. For one, Texas is the brunt of the vast majority of them, especially here in California, if only because it spawned Bush Jr. There's also the fact that Alabamans are inbred retards, New Yorkers are all assholes who'd sell you your own kidneys, and every female from New Jersey is a $2 whore.
And once you get out of California, you find out that there's actually 2 different "Californias". Northern California is full of gays and hippies, while Southern California is full of incredibly good looking women in skimpy clothing who do nothing but lounge on beaches all day.
For the sake of this debate, the nationalities that comprise the United Kingdom may as well be equivalent to States. Stereotypes and insults fly in every direction in both systems.
What? No, it's actually spelled Aluminium here in Britain.Agayek said:
I notice everyone always forgets the OTHER parts of the British Isles in these discussions. It doesn't just boil down to England, Wales, Scotland (and arguably Northern Ireland, not sure what the official stance there is) when it comes to British. You've got islands like the Isle of Man between Great Britain and Ireland, for example. That's British too, though it's not part of the United Kingdom OR Great Britain.
And the technical terms here - England, Wales etc are countries. The United Kingdom is a nation.
Howabout some sheepconboy123 said:
? i hear you folks just LOVE sheeploli kidd i kidd im part welsh, scottish english and my greatgran was irish
you know, it could be worse. we could drop all pretense of knowing the difference between different parts of europe and call you french.
and then you'd just be sad.
and then you'd just be sad.
Russia is partly European (I think, though I'm not sure, its the most densely populated part too) so that would be a dubious call. I can't think of any Chinese players in the EPL and only 1 Korean comes to mind. I've never heard anyone make the mistake of forgetting China or the Koreas are in Asia anyway, So struggle to see your pointrdaleric said:
This drives me mad. I have a friend who constantly goes on about how they're English, not British, they actually get very indignant about the whole thing. It just sounds horribly xenophobic.
I was born in England of parents and grandparents who were all born in England, and have lived in England all my life. I'm British. That's what it says on my passport, right there underneath my name. British citizen. Since everyone outside the UK seems to assume that British means English, it doesn't matter in the slightest.
I was born in England of parents and grandparents who were all born in England, and have lived in England all my life. I'm British. That's what it says on my passport, right there underneath my name. British citizen. Since everyone outside the UK seems to assume that British means English, it doesn't matter in the slightest.
@Agayek: There is a very major difference between the countries of the United Kingdoms and the States of America in that we have thousands of years history of fighting one another, the american states almost all banded together as soon as they were founded (Yes I realise some were added later) you can hardly compare a few states that came into existence at same time and banded together for protection to countries who have fought and killed and died to each other until ultimately one was subjugated by the other. It's a completely different scenario.
Man there has been so many typings of Britain etc that it is confusing to read!
It's fine if people call us British because we are. They might not recognise the accent differences throughout the land. I refer to myself as British more often than English anyway..
The only time it does get annoying is when stereotypes come out, but stereotypes are meant to be insulting and annoying in the first place!
I noticed earlier that somebody said Canada and Australia were british because they have the Queen. Well no.
Crown dependencies on the other hand can be called British, such as the Isle of Man and the Falkland Islands.
It's fine if people call us British because we are. They might not recognise the accent differences throughout the land. I refer to myself as British more often than English anyway..
The only time it does get annoying is when stereotypes come out, but stereotypes are meant to be insulting and annoying in the first place!
I noticed earlier that somebody said Canada and Australia were british because they have the Queen. Well no.
Crown dependencies on the other hand can be called British, such as the Isle of Man and the Falkland Islands.