Brutal Legend: Why do I hate it?
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I'd say it's just a phase then. We're all trying to find our identity at those ages. But you know him better than I do, obviously, so I won't claim infallibility here.Jim Grim said:
Good luck w/ it, though.
Frankly, that's what struck me when you mentioned Guns'n'Roses as a band for posers.Jim Grim said:
Forgive me for being blunt, but that is a nonsensical elitist view. Guns'n'Roses are a band that an entire generation of hard rockers and metallers grew up with, providing catchy party anthems to get drunk to.
I've been into metal for 6 years now. I wear t-shirts. I usually(though not that much recently) like to be all the way up front when at concerts. I don't particularly like Guns'n'Roses, but I acknowledge their space in music history. Since when does really enjoying at immersing oneself in metal, mean you were a poser?
Brütal Legend is filled with references and jokes that caters to the people who actually know their heavy metal.
As for the game itself, it has it's flaws. But it's also very good in many areas, it has an awesome soundtrack(with some exceptions), and just has that cool feel to it.
EDIT: While I'm at it anyway... Just ignore any such terms as posers, "true", and elitism in your life. It's all about the music, and it's really not worth obsessing over how sincere someone else likes it.
Complain less. Play more.
Your argument is a lot like saying "I don't like Halo 3, because it appeals to all the wannabe douchebags that pretend to like Halo." Metal has become a broad term to refer to an expansive collection of similar musical styles, and the subculture that comes with them. Saying that one subgroup, such as "T-shirt wearers" are wannabes is as ineffectual as it is ignorant. The experience of metal is entirely up to the individual fan, and what one may call "true metal" is wannabe for another.
Metal is big enough for everyone. Relax, and make some space.
Your argument is a lot like saying "I don't like Halo 3, because it appeals to all the wannabe douchebags that pretend to like Halo." Metal has become a broad term to refer to an expansive collection of similar musical styles, and the subculture that comes with them. Saying that one subgroup, such as "T-shirt wearers" are wannabes is as ineffectual as it is ignorant. The experience of metal is entirely up to the individual fan, and what one may call "true metal" is wannabe for another.
Metal is big enough for everyone. Relax, and make some space.
Um, because a certain type of person you don't like likes it (true with most games really) doesn't mean you shouldn't get it. That's just immature.
dude, you totally just described me.
...awesome.
Well, except in the fact that I actually like metal for it's artistic merit, and not to fit in. God knows that metal won't get you cool points at my school.
...awesome.
Well, except in the fact that I actually like metal for it's artistic merit, and not to fit in. God knows that metal won't get you cool points at my school.
As I stated in a post yesterday:soulasylum85 said:
Axl + 16 Producers + Autotune + Musical Diahhoria =b Chinese Democracy
If you think that, well, that's fine, it's your opinion, but that doesn't make it correct. The reality is, this game is so loaded with injokes, cameo appearances and other references that it's not trying to appeal to the wannabe, it's geniunely for the metal fan. There is so much that a person who isn't familiar with metal simply won't get, things that they won't be able to enjoy unless they GET metal. For example, many of ozzy's sayings when you leave, if you've ever seen him in concert, well, you'll be able to wax nostalgic over, if not, you'll simply think he's just reading from a script (he obviously is, but the lines are taken directly from his live performances). OH YEAH, and the fucking soundtrack is fantastic. It's got everything from classics like "mr. crowley" and "in the black" to lesser known awesome like "murmaider" and "cathode ray sunshine". I believe mr. schafer knows his metal, if not, then jack black certainly does, and it comes across mightily. This game is meant to appeal mainly to the metal fan, but it also does it's fair share of trying to ease people into the genre. Right up until "her ghost in the fog" begins to play as you battle a boss and scares the shit out of anybody that has anything less then a true interest in metal.
AND YES, IT IS WORTH CORRECTING IF YOUR FRIEND IS IN ANY WAY INCORRECT. LETTING IT SLIDE IS THE KIND OF THINKING THAT HAS LEAD (american) CULTURE TO THE SAD AND NEGLECTED STATE IT'S IN NOW. My point is, if everybody becomes accepting of ridiculous behavior and poor taste, eventually, poor taste and stupidity become the norm, and those who rant against it, are ostracized. This in turn, leads to the eventual degradation of everything that requires some form of quality, whether it's music, video games, and even literature. Everything that was once good is left intellectually barren as to appeal to the more intellectually flawed elements in society, which by this point, is near everybody. If you like any band called LMFAO you are fucking wrong.
AND YES, IT IS WORTH CORRECTING IF YOUR FRIEND IS IN ANY WAY INCORRECT. LETTING IT SLIDE IS THE KIND OF THINKING THAT HAS LEAD (american) CULTURE TO THE SAD AND NEGLECTED STATE IT'S IN NOW. My point is, if everybody becomes accepting of ridiculous behavior and poor taste, eventually, poor taste and stupidity become the norm, and those who rant against it, are ostracized. This in turn, leads to the eventual degradation of everything that requires some form of quality, whether it's music, video games, and even literature. Everything that was once good is left intellectually barren as to appeal to the more intellectually flawed elements in society, which by this point, is near everybody. If you like any band called LMFAO you are fucking wrong.
I feared something about theese lines before I saw it at a friends house.Jim Grim said:
And now.. I own it.. And DANG!
The awesomity of this awesome awesomgasm of a game is simple AWESOME! (Sorry... Couldn't resist)
But yes. It IS a wannabe. BUT in a good way. Cant explain it. Its just that good...
metalheads like metal because it IS cool, not because they think it'll make them cool. grow a pair.
Err...It's my impression that metal hasn't been cool for a long long time, and if they like metal because they think it'll make them cool then I say LET THEM. I don't understand why every metal fan feels the need to challenge another fans devotion to the genre. The "I like metal more than you" mentality needs to stopJim Grim said:
I don't want anything I do to be cool, because it attracts people who don't think about the stuff in the EXACT same way I think of them. Especially metal and gaming.300lb. Samoan said: