The lefties ?MrFluffy-X said:mate they are going to slaughter you, but i think its a fair opinion...lordbuxton said:This is absolute bull.Furious Styles said:The title says it all, but here's a link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/aug/04/proposition-8-gay-marriage-california?CMP=AFCYAH
Basically, a judge found the ban was unconstitutional.
Personally, I am pretty glad they've done this. It's a victory for civil rights and just generally great (speaking as a brit).
Thoughts? I know you're all reasonably enlightened so I can't imagine much hate for this news.
To support gay marrige is to accept a mental disorder as "acceptable".
We should be trying to cure this disorder rather than accepting it as a part of life.
The word hasn't changed in meaning. Marriage is still an act of bondage between lovers and is still used as a means of sharing wealth and land and other proxies. You still don't have to go to a church to get married. And marriage still isn't an exclusively religious act. So by that... it's not an oxymoron.MrFluffy-X said:What are you talking about? words change/add meanings all the time take the word gay for example, i admit i shouldnt have said always, i was wrong there.Sovvolf said:But it isn't an oxymoron because marriage has nothing to do with religion. Just because it's commonly known as religious doesn't make it so. Facts aren't decided by popular vote.MrFluffy-X said:I think thats totally irrelevant...marriage is commonly known as religous, religion rejects homosexuality, so gay marriage sounds like an oxymoron
Also it's completely relevant because you stated that marriage is religious and has always been religious when I've just proven that it wasn't and isn't.
Homosexuality was considered a mental disease by the American Psychiatric Association (or a group like that) at some point, but they have since reversed their stance on it. I don't think he was being ironic, but I think he was referring to that.Furious Styles said:How, pray tell, is it a mental disorder. Go on, I'm curious to know what you think.lordbuxton said:This is absolute bull.
To support gay marrige is to accept a mental disorder as "acceptable".
We should be trying to cure this disorder rather than accepting it as a part of life.
Unless you're being ironic, in which case you got me.
I see that you're in need of an avatar. Might I suggest one?lordbuxton said:This is absolute bull.
To support gay marrige is to accept a mental disorder as "acceptable".
We should be trying to cure this disorder rather than accepting it as a part of life.
Mmmhmm. Tell me how trying to cure love, or trying to force people to find a certain gender attractive works, kay?lordbuxton said:The lefties ?MrFluffy-X said:mate they are going to slaughter you, but i think its a fair opinion...lordbuxton said:This is absolute bull.Furious Styles said:The title says it all, but here's a link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/aug/04/proposition-8-gay-marriage-california?CMP=AFCYAH
Basically, a judge found the ban was unconstitutional.
Personally, I am pretty glad they've done this. It's a victory for civil rights and just generally great (speaking as a brit).
Thoughts? I know you're all reasonably enlightened so I can't imagine much hate for this news.
To support gay marrige is to accept a mental disorder as "acceptable".
We should be trying to cure this disorder rather than accepting it as a part of life.
*laughs
To answer another point, im not being ironic, it's proven mental disorder.
You can't argue fact.
Actually, homosexuality was removed from the DSM by the American Psychiatric Association way back in 1973. So yeh, it hasn't been a "mental disorder" for over 35 years now, probably longer than you've been alive.lordbuxton said:This is absolute bull.Furious Styles said:The title says it all, but here's a link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/aug/04/proposition-8-gay-marriage-california?CMP=AFCYAH
Basically, a judge found the ban was unconstitutional.
Personally, I am pretty glad they've done this. It's a victory for civil rights and just generally great (speaking as a brit).
Thoughts? I know you're all reasonably enlightened so I can't imagine much hate for this news.
To support gay marrige is to accept a mental disorder as "acceptable".
We should be trying to cure this disorder rather than accepting it as a part of life.
The issue is not what's important, what matters is that a single judge can overrule the majority with one swing of the gavel.ReincarnatedFTP said:Yeah. I probably also have crazy ideas like blacks not being property or racial segregation is a bad idea even if the majority would vote for it.MoeTheMonk said:Well, as long as you and that judge think your way is better, go ahead and ignore the majority of the state, they're stupid anyways. It's just such a relief to know that one judge's opinion is instantly worth more than most of the state.ReincarnatedFTP said:I bet you were just as upset when those damn judges said slavery and segregation and anti-miscegenation laws were wrong.MoeTheMonk said:Once again, one judge overrules the will of the people. What a great world this is.
Damn activist judges and their refusal to stomp on the rights of the minority because the majority feels like it.
I'm soooooooo sorry.
It's not. It's grossly offensive and archaic. In fact, I'd classify it as so fantastically unintelligent and brutish, it's quite beyond contempt.MrFluffy-X said:mate they are going to slaughter you, but i think its a fair opinion...
Looking at the posters history... He joined today and most of his comments are all anti-gay comments linking it to a mental illness... I'm saying either ill informed or a troll. I'd just report and move on. I doubt this fellow is going to be up for reasoning... Though I've been wrong before.SuperMse said:Mmmhmm. Tell me how trying to cure love, or trying to force people to find a certain gender attractive works, kay?
As for your "proven mental disorder" statement, I'd like to see this proof. Homosexuality was removed from the mental disability section of the Psychiatric Standards of Care a loooong time ago.
That's actually a much better arguement... I disagree... But it's an improvement on your earlier comments.lordbuxton said:To add on to my other point.
You are born gay, it's not a choice. The makeup of the brain determines sexuality and seen as the human body is designed to survie and reproduce as Darwin says, then it's a disorder that impairs the bodies goals and thus it's as much as a disability as been blind.
ah, an elitist Guardian reader.MatsVS said:It's not. It's grossly offensive and archaic. In fact, I'd classify it as so fantastically unintelligent and brutish, it's quite beyond contempt.MrFluffy-X said:mate they are going to slaughter you, but i think its a fair opinion...
Oh so you're a believer in direct democracy who would support executing people who happened to be born with green eyes if the people supported the measure.MoeTheMonk said:The issue is not what's important, what matters is that a single judge can overrule the majority with one swing of the gavel.ReincarnatedFTP said:Yeah. I probably also have crazy ideas like blacks not being property or racial segregation is a bad idea even if the majority would vote for it.MoeTheMonk said:Well, as long as you and that judge think your way is better, go ahead and ignore the majority of the state, they're stupid anyways. It's just such a relief to know that one judge's opinion is instantly worth more than most of the state.ReincarnatedFTP said:I bet you were just as upset when those damn judges said slavery and segregation and anti-miscegenation laws were wrong.MoeTheMonk said:Once again, one judge overrules the will of the people. What a great world this is.
Damn activist judges and their refusal to stomp on the rights of the minority because the majority feels like it.
I'm soooooooo sorry.
If those stupid, misguided, close-minded, bigoted idiots want themselves a gay-marriage ban, then they should have it without worrying that ONE judge with contrary opinion is their equal in terms of the law.
So you're saying that blind people shouldn't be allowed to marry?lordbuxton said:To add on to my other point.
You are born gay, it's not a choice. The makeup of the brain determines sexuality and seen as the human body is designed to survie and reproduce as Darwin says, then it's a disorder that impairs the bodies goals and thus it's as much as a disability as been blind.
But being a complete and utter asshole is also an impairs your chances of mating....lordbuxton said:To add on to my other point.
You are born gay, it's not a choice. The makeup of the brain determines sexuality and seen as the human body is designed to survie and reproduce as Darwin says, then it's a disorder that impairs the bodies goals and thus it's as much as a disability as been blind.
Not all my comments, broken no rules any way.Sovvolf said:Looking at the posters history... He joined today and most of his comments are all anti-gay comments linking it to a mental illness... I'm saying either ill informed or a troll. I'd just report and move on. I doubt this fellow is going to be up for reasoning... Though I've been wrong before.SuperMse said:Mmmhmm. Tell me how trying to cure love, or trying to force people to find a certain gender attractive works, kay?
As for your "proven mental disorder" statement, I'd like to see this proof. Homosexuality was removed from the mental disability section of the Psychiatric Standards of Care a loooong time ago.