Homosexuality is caused by a recessive gene and we should be trying to remove it from the human gene pool, just like we would remove genes that caused austism. We should not be accepting it.
Lol ok I literally had to make an account after 2 years of lurking cause this is just silly. Why exactly should homosexuality be weeded out of the gene pool? In a time where we have overpopulation and plenty of children needing to be adopted, couples that can't on their own have children are quite beneficial to the human race actually.lordbuxton said:you are wrong I am right.warboss5 said:Actually, under that definition, its not a mental disorder, its a unfavorable mutation. Now, if humans were an animal species, then Darwinian logic would state that the "gay gene" would die out because it is, by its very nature, incapable of being passed on. However, humanity hasn't obeyed Darwinian evolution laws since we learned round things roll when pushed. Humanity is NOT an animal, so the rules of evolution no longer apply to us (for the most part). If every aspect of human culture that wasn't actively contributing towards beneficial evolutionary steps was considered a mental disease, then people who are sexually attracted to people with little body hair would have a mental disorder (since greater body hair would lead to greater heat retention and, therefore, greater survivability in cold climates).lordbuxton said:To add on to my other point.
You are born gay, it's not a choice. The makeup of the brain determines sexuality and seen as the human body is designed to survie and reproduce as Darwin says, then it's a disorder that impairs the bodies goals and thus it's as much as a disability as been blind.
So no, using Darwin as an excuse to classify something as a mental disorder is just plain wrong. Especially when damn near the entire psychiatric community disagrees with you.
The entire psychiatric community ? You mean 8 or so liberals who have spent half a hour on wiki ?
You said your self, "it's a unfavorable mutation" and we should be trying to cure these munations, just like we are trying to remove mutations that increase the chances of cancer.
Ahhhh, the trollish war cry of choice! Now I understand, and no longer care about your opinion ^.^lordbuxton said:you are wrong I am right.
Actually, homosexuality has not been eradicated from animals that are still subject to the full spectrum of environmental pressures (i.e. animals other than humans).warboss5 said:Now, if humans were an animal species, then Darwinian logic would state that the "gay gene" would die out because it is, by its very nature, incapable of being passed on. However, humanity hasn't obeyed Darwinian evolution laws since we learned round things roll when pushed. Humanity is NOT an animal, so the rules of evolution no longer apply to us (for the most part).lordbuxton said:derp derp dee didili derp deee derp
Wow, you know I didn't believe in marriage at all until I saw your commentsaintchristopher said:Why? All it means is two people are now taxed as a unit and have new medical/legal proxies.MrFluffy-X said:I believe gay marriage is wrong, that is just my opinion, Its just sounds like an oxymoron to meFurious Styles said:The title says it all, but here's a link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/aug/04/proposition-8-gay-marriage-california?CMP=AFCYAH
Basically, a judge found the ban was unconstitutional.
Personally, I am pretty glad they've done this. It's a victory for civil rights and just generally great (speaking as a brit).
Thoughts? I know you're all reasonably enlightened so I can't imagine much hate for this news.
Besides, I'm fairly certain that usually homosexuality is caused by overexposure to certain hormones while the foetus is still developing in the womb, not genetics so I don't think Darwin's theories even apply here, do they? I could be wrong, though.warboss5 said:Actually, under that definition, its not a mental disorder, its a unfavorable mutation. Now, if humans were an animal species, then Darwinian logic would state that the "gay gene" would die out because it is, by its very nature, incapable of being passed on. However, humanity hasn't obeyed Darwinian evolution laws since we learned round things roll when pushed. Humanity is NOT an animal, so the rules of evolution no longer apply to us (for the most part). If every aspect of human culture that wasn't actively contributing towards beneficial evolutionary steps was considered a mental disease, then people who are sexually attracted to people with little body hair would have a mental disorder (since greater body hair would lead to greater heat retention and, therefore, greater survivability in cold climates).lordbuxton said:To add on to my other point.
You are born gay, it's not a choice. The makeup of the brain determines sexuality and seen as the human body is designed to survie and reproduce as Darwin says, then it's a disorder that impairs the bodies goals and thus it's as much as a disability as been blind.
So no, using Darwin as an excuse to classify something as a mental disorder is just plain wrong. Especially when damn near the entire psychiatric community disagrees with you.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,368541,00.html [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,368541,00.html]lordbuxton said:Homosexuality is caused by a recessive gene and we should be trying to remove it from the human gene pool, just like we would remove genes that caused austism. We should not be accepting it.
I'm actually currently on the high ground. However the bile has been progressing very rapidly of late.Sinisterspider said:I'm so glad i don't live in the states. not with all the bile everyone seems to be swimming in over there.
..Thank you for more or less posting what I was about to say.RebellionXXI said:lordbuxton said:This is absolute bull.Furious Styles said:The title says it all, but here's a link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/aug/04/proposition-8-gay-marriage-california?CMP=AFCYAH
Basically, a judge found the ban was unconstitutional.
Personally, I am pretty glad they've done this. It's a victory for civil rights and just generally great (speaking as a brit).
Thoughts? I know you're all reasonably enlightened so I can't imagine much hate for this news.
To support gay marrige is to accept a mental disorder as "acceptable".
We should be trying to cure this disorder rather than accepting it as a part of life.
Hmm, all-one-word-all-lowercase handle with only four posts?
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv215/Luckybug76/Picture1-7.png
That said, I'm glad this went through. Just because homosexuality makes some (even most) people uncomfortable doesn't mean it's wrong, and doesn't mean it's okay to treat gays and lesbians like second-class citizens.
And talking about developing 'cures' for any kind of psychological 'abnormality' is a dangerous proposition for everyone.
For example, here's an article talking about the discovery of a so-called 'faith gene'.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/16378.php
So, technically, we could start research into gene therapy to 'cure' people like the congregation of the Westboro Baptist Church, who are arguably more dangerous and hated than homosexuals. But why stop there? Why not bomb the middle-east with a biological agent that does nothing but disable this 'faith gene' in its victims, and all your worries about radical Islam are officially over! Sure, you annihilate an entire faith and thousands of years of culture, but because the majority of the world wants it, it must be alright!
Frankly, I'd rather not live in a world where people are 'cured' of things like homosexuality. Escapists, remember, before you support something radical like this, always take a moment to imagine how your opposition would use it against YOU, because they probably will.
To listen to your moronic views is to drive valued, logical brain cells to commit suicide.lordbuxton said:This is absolute bull.Furious Styles said:The title says it all, but here's a link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/aug/04/proposition-8-gay-marriage-california?CMP=AFCYAH
Basically, a judge found the ban was unconstitutional.
Personally, I am pretty glad they've done this. It's a victory for civil rights and just generally great (speaking as a brit).
Thoughts? I know you're all reasonably enlightened so I can't imagine much hate for this news.
To support gay marrige is to accept a mental disorder as "acceptable".
We should be trying to cure this disorder rather than accepting it as a part of life.
Wow, typical liberal blowing what i say out of absoulte reason. I mean a faith gene ?RebellionXXI said:lordbuxton said:This is absolute bull.Furious Styles said:The title says it all, but here's a link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/aug/04/proposition-8-gay-marriage-california?CMP=AFCYAH
Basically, a judge found the ban was unconstitutional.
Personally, I am pretty glad they've done this. It's a victory for civil rights and just generally great (speaking as a brit).
Thoughts? I know you're all reasonably enlightened so I can't imagine much hate for this news.
To support gay marrige is to accept a mental disorder as "acceptable".
We should be trying to cure this disorder rather than accepting it as a part of life.
Hmm, all-one-word-all-lowercase handle with only four posts?
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv215/Luckybug76/Picture1-7.png
That said, I'm glad this went through. Just because homosexuality makes some (even most) people uncomfortable doesn't mean it's wrong, and doesn't mean it's okay to treat gays and lesbians like second-class citizens.
And talking about developing 'cures' for any kind of psychological 'abnormality' is a dangerous proposition for everyone.
For example, here's an article talking about the discovery of a so-called 'faith gene'.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/16378.php
So, technically, we could start research into gene therapy to 'cure' people like the congregation of the Westboro Baptist Church, who are arguably more dangerous and hated than homosexuals. But why stop there? Why not bomb the middle-east with a biological agent that does nothing but disable this 'faith gene' in its victims, and all your worries about radical Islam are officially over! Sure, you annihilate an entire faith and thousands of years of culture, but because the majority of the world wants it, it must be alright!
Frankly, I'd rather not live in a world where people are 'cured' of things like homosexuality. Escapists, remember, before you support something radical like this, always take a moment to imagine how your opposition would use it against YOU, because they probably will.
A large number of prominent historical minds all had traits of autism.lordbuxton said:just like we would remove genes that caused austism. We should not be accepting it.
Give this man a cookieThe Lost Big Boss said:Because we live in a Republic and not a Democracy. If we were in a Democracy than it would be majority rule all, all the time, aka tyranny of the many, but thats not the case in America.MrFluffy-X said:51.5% voted against it, 48.5% voted for it? why did people vote if it didnt matter?Right, ill cast the first stone...MrFluffy-X said:mate they are going to slaughter you, but i think its a fair opinion...lordbuxton said:Give this man a cookieFurious Styles said:The title says it all, but here's a link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/aug/04/proposition-8-gay-marriage-california?CMP=AFCYAH
Basically, a judge found the ban was unconstitutional.
Personally, I am pretty glad they've done this. It's a victory for civil rights and just generally great (speaking as a brit).
Thoughts? I know you're all reasonably enlightened so I can't imagine much hate for this news.
This is absolute bull.
To support gay marrige is to accept a mental disorder as "acceptable".
We should be trying to cure this disorder rather than accepting it as a part of life.
Who are you to decide who should and shouldn't love each other? who is anyone to decide for another person who they can and can't be with. It's fuck heads like you that bring the world down, it's fuck heads like you that feel you have the authority to tell my family members how to live their life. You sir can fuck right off.
Oh, now I see. You're a Nazi.lordbuxton said:Homosexuality is caused by a recessive gene and we should be trying to remove it from the human gene pool, just like we would remove genes that caused austism. We should not be accepting it.
I resent the 'Autism' remark. I could start saying a lot of hateful things right now, but I won't. I'm simply going to say you are an incredibly ignorant individual.lordbuxton said:Homosexuality is caused by a recessive gene and we should be trying to remove it from the human gene pool, just like we would remove genes that caused austism. We should not be accepting it.
Let me ask you a one word question: WHY?!?!?!MoeTheMonk said:The issue is not what's important, what matters is that a single judge can overrule the majority with one swing of the gavel.ReincarnatedFTP said:Yeah. I probably also have crazy ideas like blacks not being property or racial segregation is a bad idea even if the majority would vote for it.MoeTheMonk said:Well, as long as you and that judge think your way is better, go ahead and ignore the majority of the state, they're stupid anyways. It's just such a relief to know that one judge's opinion is instantly worth more than most of the state.ReincarnatedFTP said:I bet you were just as upset when those damn judges said slavery and segregation and anti-miscegenation laws were wrong.MoeTheMonk said:Once again, one judge overrules the will of the people. What a great world this is.
Damn activist judges and their refusal to stomp on the rights of the minority because the majority feels like it.
I'm soooooooo sorry.
If those stupid, misguided, close-minded, bigoted idiots want themselves a gay-marriage ban, then they should have it without worrying that ONE judge with contrary opinion is their equal in terms of the law.
Actually, a recessive homosexuality gene could be of benefit to a species by ensuring a passive statistical population control where a certain percentage of the species does not reproduce.warboss5 said:Now, if humans were an animal species, then Darwinian logic would state that the "gay gene" would die out because it is, by its very nature, incapable of being passed on.
Those hormones are, ultimately, controlled by the woman's genetics, and as such evolution would still have an effect even if it was more subtle.MGlBlaze said:Besides, I'm fairly certain that usually homosexuality is caused by overexposure to certain hormones while the foetus is still developing in the womb, not genetics so I don't think Darwin's theories even apply here, do they? I could be wrong, though.