Calling all steam haters!!

[MaxRaine]

People keep claiming Steam has great prices and sure, when they have their special deals it's usually quite nice ones. But the regular prices are usually about 30% higher than retail here in Sweden...

That said I still like Steam =)

 

[Sacman]

and the fact that it's a lot more user friendly than managing all of your games separately...

What? Is it hard to put your games on a shelf? I must be missing something here because I have never had my games cause me any sort of managerial problem, they just sit on the shelf nicely and never make a sound.

Perhaps you have haunted games?

I meant separately on my system because let's be honest having a platform that manages updates, downloads, game location and access is very convenient when you have about 200 games... besides it frees up a lot of space in my room since it's about the size of an elevator anyway...

Most games have an auto update system so it can't be that hard. Besides, you only need to update the games you play, you don't need to keep games you haven't touched in a year up to date.

I see your point but I just don't think that giving up ownership is worth it. Besides, what happens if you need to read the manual but the game doesn't play nice with Alt-Tab?

bring up task manager and minimize it from there, besides the only thing I use the manual for is checking controls but pausing it and going to options works just as well or I've got my Ipod touch right next to me...

 

[BlumiereBleck]

I just dont like pc games.

 

[-Samurai-]

lol watch this all you steam haters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdWnNgTLbKw

I like how he thinks PC is the greatest thing ever, yet he sports a large library of PS3, Xbox360, and Wii games right behind him. As soon as I noticed that(about a minute in), I shut the thing off. I'm not wasting 16 minutes of my life to hear some random guy spout PC elitism. I can find that here.

 

[CCountZero]

also ive NEVER had an offline mode problem before, apart from not being able to play online multiplayer games, but....... come on DER

And even so, it's only the games that use Steam for their multiplayer. that you can't play online in Offline mode.

This also means that you can have your account in Offline mode on four PCs and play Borderlands in LAN, with ZERO issues, just like you might with a physical copy.

Hell, some of the game don't even require you to have steam running to play them, you can actually run them from within your SteamApps library. (although those are few)

 

[Tinneh]

I think it was because it was a little wonky years ago and some people don't realize software gets updates and fixes.

I personally enjoy it because it's a place where friends can easily join games and such. I prefer physical games but sometimes when that deal is that good you can't say no.

And you can talk to me alllllllllll you want! That's why I fucking love Steam, I get to talk to me all day.

And yeah cheap-as-free games and stuff, BUT MOSTLY ME!

 

[Death God]

Steam hater? I thought only things were only real in nightmares. I have yet to see anyone hate it myself.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Why do you hate Steam? I see this hatred for Steam quite a bit and being not as much of an avid Pc gamer as I should be, I was curious as to why you hate Steam.

Also if you do not hate and/or dislike Steam please refrain from answering.
-thank you.

Because one day I was cooking chili and when I took it out of the microwave and took the cover off, I did it the wrong way and a bunch of steam shot out and turned the whole upper part of my middle finger red... Have you ever had a steam burn? They fuckin hurt...

Oh wait, were you talking about the application Steam? Oh, but steamy steam still sucks. >_>

 

[Souplex]

Digital Distribution: Evil.
PC gaming obsolete with the exception of RTSes and MMOs.
Valve is killing gaming with their bad ideas.
Bad x bad x bad. Steam is the equivalent of puking on a pile of shit and smearing it on yourself.

 

[JavaJoeCoffee]

Steam is annoying, in fact it's so annoying that I swore off all steam and valve games for years after I bought HL2. Basically, untill Portal came out I refused to have anything to do with it.

I really think twice before buying any game, even a real disk from a bricks-and-mortar store, if I have to use steam. I'd rather use EA store or even GameStop for online purchases. In my experience steam is better than it used to be, but still finicky, annoying, and has bad support.

I don't like steam because...
1. I like physical versions of my software
2. I don't like online DRM
3. I really don't like online DRM that verifies at every game launch
4. Tech support is lacluster to non-responsive
5. I don't need extra client software stealing cpu cycles
6. Automatic updates keep me from playing a game when I feel like it
7. Centralized control of game access allows for continuous content revision without my consent
8. Why do I have to look at ads when all I'm doing is launching my own game?
9. I have to know when my internet is out, before my internet is out, to tell steam that my internet is going to be out?
10. I'd rather go to a real store and give my money to keep it open so I can walk in some physical space and be surrounded by games
11. Very few games I'm actually interested in buying

 

[Irridium]

The offline mode is a joke. What kind of fucking offline mode needs to connect to the internet to start offline.

Yes, to get Steam in offline mode, it must first connect to the internet. THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF AN OFFLINE MODE!!

Also, why the hell does steam default to downloading the full game when you try to install it from the disk? With Civ5 I had to open up the disk files and run the setup manually. I didn't buy the physical copy to download the damn game you idiots!

 

[helldragonX]

I just like having the disks for the games. So if something goes wrong it is easy enough to get the games back.

 

[bam13302]

*desperatly trying to think of a complaint*
um, it drained my budget
i can see, purchase, download, install, update, and join an active game with a friend in about 4 clicks over about 15 min (super fast internet helps too, get up to 112Mbps aka 14MBps)
i guess my only complaint is it isnt synced with google... i shouldnt have said that *tomorrow, google says they are developing a gaming platform*
Fable isnt on it
Blizzard isnt on it
yea, thats it
i have a shitload invested in steam
*sigh*
and if at some point i go crazy and want disks for all my games, i can burn backups of my games onto disks

 

[DementedSheep]

I don't hate steam tho I avoid using it unless I can't get the game I want in a store.
I prefer having a physical copy of the game (CD) and I actually want the box and the game manual of allot of games (don't ask m why, I just do). I just feel allot more comfortable if I actually have a CD. Also most steam games cost the same or more than what is in the stores anyway. No point paying the same amount for less.
There are however allot of benefits to steam, like I said I don't hate it I just prefer not to use it. If it wasn?t for steam I wouldn?t have the opportunity to play allot of games, especially the older ones. The stores around where I live don?t stock many games.

 

[Nostalgia]

I dislike Steam because I like physical media. No other reason really.
I don't use it so I don't have to deal with any problems it might have otherwise.

 

[bam13302]

Steam is annoying, in fact it's so annoying that I swore off all steam and valve games for years after I bought HL2. Basically, untill Portal came out I refused to have anything to do with it.

I really think twice before buying any game, even a real disk from a bricks-and-mortar store, if I have to use steam. I'd rather use EA store or even GameStop for online purchases. In my experience steam is better than it used to be, but still finicky, annoying, and has bad support.

I don't like steam because...
1. I like physical versions of my software
2. I don't like online DRM
3. I really don't like online DRM that verifies at every game launch
4. Tech support is lacluster to non-responsive
5. I don't need extra client software stealing cpu cycles
6. Automatic updates keep me from playing a game when I feel like it
7. Centralized control of game access allows for continuous content revision without my consent
8. Why do I have to look at ads when all I'm doing is launching my own game?
9. I have to know when my internet is out, before my internet is out, to tell steam that my internet is going to be out?
10. I'd rather go to a real store and give my money to keep it open so I can walk in some physical space and be surrounded by games
11. Very few games I'm actually interested in buying

1. fair enough
2. not all games on steam have DRM, Fallout 3, you can copy the game file and use it with another account, the only DRM it has is strictly tied to games for windows live, and activating that is optional
3. i will admit it does give developer more potential power to DRM their product
4. always gotten quick responses from them as long as i sent the question to the right section
(and i have asked about 15 total questions so far, responses alot faster the many other companies)
5. once it starts, it doesnt really eat that much cpu, my anti-virus eats more then steam, in fact, it sits in the middle of a long list of 0% cpu usage on my list
6. disable automatic updates.
7. see above
8. set favorite page to library, when you start steam, it will go to library
9. when your internet is out, steam will see that and offer to start in offline mode (to be fair, they had a pretty long running issue with that, and some games still require you to be in online mode)
10. personal preference, id rather decide to purchase a game, and start playing it in the time it takes me to drive to the dam store
11. how is that against steam?

some of these points are valid on personal preference and your free to have your own opinion
but valve works hard to try and keep this as small as they can without sacrificing quality, admittedly, releasing a client version that uses less memory would not be a bad idea, but it really only starts eating memory if you have a large number of games installed, but at that point you probably have a computer that can handle loosing 0.15 G of your ram, which, if you have a lot of games, is probably around 2GB if not more, if i put a 1T hard drive in my POS laptop with 250MB of ram and decided to download all 100 games in my library, it still wouldn't use all my ram, and it would be holding 98 games that computer cant play
sorry for the rant, but i just had to respond to this

 

[Andy of Comix Inc]

Its digital distribution, last I checked that means if the steam servers go down all those games you "bought" you get locked out of.

Unless they changed it.

Gabe Newell, CEO of Valve, said in a post on the Steam User Forums that "Unless there was some situation I don't understand, we would presumably disable authentication before any event that would preclude the authentication servers from being available." He added, "We've tested disabling authentication, and it works."

From the horse's mouth.

Do you really think the publishers will allow Valve to take the DRM off of their games? Hell no, the only hope you have is that Steam never goes away because there is no way in hell the publishers are going to allow the DRM to be stripped off.

That sentence "Unless there was some situation I don't understand, we would presumably disable authentication before any event that would preclude the authentication servers from being available." is not at all convincing. He is telling you what you want to hear but making no promise because he knows the publishers would never allow it, he's just hoping it will put your mind at ease.

Valve have total control over the system. Third parties agree to the contract when they put their games up there. If they don't like it, they can suck it.

Besides. Any third-party DRM also in place would still be operational.

...why would you argue about it anyway? Like I said, no argument can be fully grounded, not with something as love/hate as Steam. Just take these for what they are, opinions, because facts will get lost in the pantheon of words.

"I love Steam," or "I hate Steam" - end of story. You don't need to justify it for any lowlives that just plain don't agree with you!!

 

[ayuri]

*thank you for calling, the haters are not in right now please try 4 chan*