Camping, Noobtubeing, Ganking, Legit Tactics and weapons you deem unfair!
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I can't fucking stand noob-tubing or Ranger Akimbo in MW2. I will never resort to using those tactics because I like to think that I have a sense of honor. I only use a grenade launcher when my target is some distance away and I cannot shoot at them (when they are hiding in a building for instance). I don't run around like jackass with the noob-tube at the ready waiting to shoot it at the first enemey that comes by. If you want to kill me at close range, either knife me or shoot me. Also, I will never, ever use Ranger Akimbo or the Ranger all together. How the fuck uses an antique sawn-off shotgun in today's armies? Who the hell uses that?
I do have a problem with noob-tubing, but not so much with camping because there are ways around that. In my mind, anyone who noob-tubes is a coward who knows that they aren't good enough to fight everyone else and so will resort to using a cheap tactic.
I do have a problem with noob-tubing, but not so much with camping because there are ways around that. In my mind, anyone who noob-tubes is a coward who knows that they aren't good enough to fight everyone else and so will resort to using a cheap tactic.
Camping is part of shooters. Basically, if a map has any spot in it where you only need to be looking in one general direction to cover yourself, there will be camping. And it won't be a glitch or exploit to do so. If a map has several spots like this, there will be a lot of camping, and it's probably intended to be that way.
The same goes for any explosion-based weapons. Nearly every shooter has a rocket/grenade launcher, and it kills a full room in 1 shot.
Similar stuff can be said about ganking, and any other activity that is generally considered 'unfair'.
You either play the game the way it is, or you don't play it at all.
If you don't like Campers, don't play camp-friendly shooters.
If you don't like Ganking, don't play on a PvP server.
If you don't like Spawn camping, don't play games that allow spawn camping.
Etc, etc, etc...
Play games that you like, that fit your playing style. Don't play a game you dislike and complain that it should be changed into something that suits you better.
Singleplayer gaming creates the idea that every match can be won, every obstacle can be overtaken, every challenge has some sort of outcome to victory.
When this carries over to multiplayer, people lob grenades into crowded rooms to score easy kills and 'win the challenge', people sit in a corner to survive and shoot anyone that happens to pass by. Bored people gank the small fries, just because it's the easiest win they can score.
No one cares how other players feel about losing, and you really don't either. You're playing to entertain yourself, not the rest of the world. People don't like playing, people like winning. Most people are just complaining because they're on the receiving end.
As a clarification; I have played plenty of shooters, and my favorite weapons are generally assault rifles (burst shots preferred), and grenades. I love backstabby tactics where I end up somewhere the opponent didn't expect and shoot them. I sincerely dislike being camped, but generally find a way around it. I have seen my share of MW2 multiplayer to know that it's not my kind of game and I won't regret it.
Other than that, I've played my share of WoW on both pve and pvp servers, I disliked getting ganked. I did generally give any lowbie a gentle tap to the face while riding by. I hated getting killed by pvp-geared players while I was farming in pve-gear, but loved the days when I ganked that silly pvp-geared pally with my pve warrior.
I've retired from most multiplayer gaming because both winning and losing are nowadays associated to "being a noob, *****, hacker, cheater, nolifer, whatever" and I really enjoy simple games with my friends a lot more than random flamefests with children from across the globe.
The same goes for any explosion-based weapons. Nearly every shooter has a rocket/grenade launcher, and it kills a full room in 1 shot.
Similar stuff can be said about ganking, and any other activity that is generally considered 'unfair'.
You either play the game the way it is, or you don't play it at all.
If you don't like Campers, don't play camp-friendly shooters.
If you don't like Ganking, don't play on a PvP server.
If you don't like Spawn camping, don't play games that allow spawn camping.
Etc, etc, etc...
Play games that you like, that fit your playing style. Don't play a game you dislike and complain that it should be changed into something that suits you better.
Singleplayer gaming creates the idea that every match can be won, every obstacle can be overtaken, every challenge has some sort of outcome to victory.
When this carries over to multiplayer, people lob grenades into crowded rooms to score easy kills and 'win the challenge', people sit in a corner to survive and shoot anyone that happens to pass by. Bored people gank the small fries, just because it's the easiest win they can score.
No one cares how other players feel about losing, and you really don't either. You're playing to entertain yourself, not the rest of the world. People don't like playing, people like winning. Most people are just complaining because they're on the receiving end.
As a clarification; I have played plenty of shooters, and my favorite weapons are generally assault rifles (burst shots preferred), and grenades. I love backstabby tactics where I end up somewhere the opponent didn't expect and shoot them. I sincerely dislike being camped, but generally find a way around it. I have seen my share of MW2 multiplayer to know that it's not my kind of game and I won't regret it.
Other than that, I've played my share of WoW on both pve and pvp servers, I disliked getting ganked. I did generally give any lowbie a gentle tap to the face while riding by. I hated getting killed by pvp-geared players while I was farming in pve-gear, but loved the days when I ganked that silly pvp-geared pally with my pve warrior.
I've retired from most multiplayer gaming because both winning and losing are nowadays associated to "being a noob, *****, hacker, cheater, nolifer, whatever" and I really enjoy simple games with my friends a lot more than random flamefests with children from across the globe.
I think the reason n00b-tubing gets everyone's goat is that it appears to penalise *good* players- after all, we could all just run around lobbing grenades, but the real skill is in aiming and shooting. It's deeply frustrating being a well-aimed player and watching your deathcam by someone who was looking directly at you, but didn't have the skill or the effort to actually aim a gun rather than throwing something in your general direction.
I've just recently began to play online with Battlefield: Bad Company 2.
Luckily, the amount of people with microphones is mercifully less than MAG. Anyway, I chose the Recon class, thinking I was going to be a sniper. I believe now, that when one thinks of the recon they think sniper, which is a bit of a misnomer.
True, I am the one with the sniper rifle and I get a few head shots with it but what I find I excel at is close quarters combat and tank slaying.
We lost position Delta while I was on top of it, sniping folks. I monitored where they were entering and judged where they were going. I knifed at least four folks by waiting by the doors I judged they would come out of and killed another four with my pistol, which seems obscene to me, as I thought it would be a suicide venture for sure. I achieved this by making use of corners and out-of-your-line-of-site places.
Maybe they were just new to online shooter.
Does this make me a camper? If it does, I see why people do it. I' a lso not about to stop doing this, either.
Also, on another unrelated note, I wonder what goes through the mind of the guy on the turret when he sees some dude in a Gilly suit frantically throwing c4 at his armoured vehicle.
Luckily, the amount of people with microphones is mercifully less than MAG. Anyway, I chose the Recon class, thinking I was going to be a sniper. I believe now, that when one thinks of the recon they think sniper, which is a bit of a misnomer.
True, I am the one with the sniper rifle and I get a few head shots with it but what I find I excel at is close quarters combat and tank slaying.
We lost position Delta while I was on top of it, sniping folks. I monitored where they were entering and judged where they were going. I knifed at least four folks by waiting by the doors I judged they would come out of and killed another four with my pistol, which seems obscene to me, as I thought it would be a suicide venture for sure. I achieved this by making use of corners and out-of-your-line-of-site places.
Maybe they were just new to online shooter.
Does this make me a camper? If it does, I see why people do it. I' a lso not about to stop doing this, either.
Also, on another unrelated note, I wonder what goes through the mind of the guy on the turret when he sees some dude in a Gilly suit frantically throwing c4 at his armoured vehicle.
Hello, my name's Vince and I'm a camper.
I only wish i could slap a noob tube on my Barret .50 cal.
Then all would be right with the world.
I only wish i could slap a noob tube on my Barret .50 cal.
Then all would be right with the world.
I don't play Modern Warfare 2, but I know all too well about people who complain about weaponry from Halo 3. Seems like every power weapon except the sniper is considered a noob weapon. Sword, Lazer,Rockets, Plasma Pistol, all seem to be labeled as noob weapon and lack any skill to use and I honestly hate it. All the weapons in the game are fairly made and balanced in my opinon. Most of the hate seems to stem from players camping with the Sword and Shotgun and Plasma Pistol, but honestly, would you grab a shotgun and go running down an open area? It's common sense. The Shotgun is devestating up close, hence why players camp with it.
Does it make me mad sometimes? Yes, but I know that if I had a shotgun, I would be doing the same thing.
Does it make me mad sometimes? Yes, but I know that if I had a shotgun, I would be doing the same thing.
Unfair no. But I hate people who think they are good because they use them. You are not talented because you can sit in a corner with a one shot weapon. That just makes you a *****. And I hate you for it.
Wow that is actually a brilliant watchamabobitVader266 said:
Seriously I never thought of it like that.OT:
These things don't bother me as much as the "You use a weapon/play a game I don't like therefore you are a LOSER!!!1111!!!!111!1!
I mean seriously dude... Just wow...
I play COD with my friends every now and then, and the word "scrub" is thrown around in just about every instance of the "tactics" you mentioned. I, myself, don't really give much of a shit. I'll turn off the console before I manage to get pissed off about something, and I'll occasionally use the scrub tactics because I've become numbed to "wewt I gotz a keel" feeling after every kill, and using the scrub method of killing gives me the satisfaction of knowing the guy I just killed is saying or thinking moments after "dirty fucking tramp scrub kill".
I don't really like COD, it's too unbalanced and I really don't think the developers actually thought about what they were putting into the game, they rely on people saying to those that complain ".. well the developers put it into the game so they must've known how it would be used". I don't think they give a shit, if they nerf it people complain, and if they leave it people complain. Simple solution? Do nothing and save your money/time.
I don't really like COD, it's too unbalanced and I really don't think the developers actually thought about what they were putting into the game, they rely on people saying to those that complain ".. well the developers put it into the game so they must've known how it would be used". I don't think they give a shit, if they nerf it people complain, and if they leave it people complain. Simple solution? Do nothing and save your money/time.
Well, in Modern Warfare, as a person who has spent a LOT of time using an explosives class (noob tube and AT4 w/ danger close) I can tell you that it is, in fact, not that good. Really, any weapon is good if you can use it correctly. If I can destroy you with a sniper, noob tube, or assault rifle, you have no right to complain. Why? Because I'm good at using them, and you must've been looking the other way.
Campers are a bit annoying, but they don't make me flip out as weasels have been known to do. It is usually pretty easy to just sneak up behind them.
I have a friend who I usually play with who complains EVERY SINGLE TIME he dies by any weapon, and since I barely complain at all, it equals out. Sort of.
Campers are a bit annoying, but they don't make me flip out as weasels have been known to do. It is usually pretty easy to just sneak up behind them.
I have a friend who I usually play with who complains EVERY SINGLE TIME he dies by any weapon, and since I barely complain at all, it equals out. Sort of.
What I don't understand is why people use those tactics. It seems that it would be boring as hell to me. I would rather use the gun that nobody uses than the really good one everyone uses.
I particularly don't understand camping. I'd rather be out on the battlefield, shooting people and dying than holed up in some house, staring at a wall.
I particularly don't understand camping. I'd rather be out on the battlefield, shooting people and dying than holed up in some house, staring at a wall.
If a weapon basically throws all balance out of the game, I generally call it unfair. If something breaks the gameplay turning it from a skill-based shooter to a simple, press R to kill, then I think the weapon is broken. Whether it be akimbo shotguns on CoD or Grenade Launchers, weapons that basically make it so next to no skill is involved with use, while the others are all fair in balanced, are quite cheap and tarnish the game for me.
What weapon are you thinking of in Killzone? They're all shit.DividedUnity said:
Anyway, I just find campers obnoxious, getting a good score should require skill, not patience.
The two rocket launchers. You know, the ones that one hit kill in quite a big splash radiusShredHead said:
