A man (or woman) after my own heart... Or my style of thinking anyway. I've always seen shooters as something fast paced, like you said. Camping, however, is not fast paced.CrustyOatmeal said:
camping, why does everyone hate it
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Campers don't get to me. In fact, most campers are really easy to kill. The fact that they camp means you know exactly where they are. Losing the element of surprise is a huge disadvantage when you're playing anyone with the ability to recognize a basic pattern. Granted, there's a lot of people who can't recognize said patterns...but they deserve whatever deaths they get for being thick.
Even if a camper is dug in like a tick, it provides an interesting strategic challenge. For example, a person is camping in a room with only one exit and he's got his gun pointed at the door. What do you do? It's kind of like breaching and clearing an enemy stronghold, but scaled down a lot.
Even if a camper is dug in like a tick, it provides an interesting strategic challenge. For example, a person is camping in a room with only one exit and he's got his gun pointed at the door. What do you do? It's kind of like breaching and clearing an enemy stronghold, but scaled down a lot.
I just don't see how much enjoyment you can get out of sitting in a corner all game, waiting for people, then shooting them in the back, it takes no skill, minimal brains (herpa derp I found a corner), and ruins it for people playing the game in a skilled way. That's my problem with camping.
Camping takes so much skill you guys! Do you know how hard it is to sit in a corner with a shotgun out? It's so nerve racking! I almost had a heart attack it was so stressful!
In all seriousness, stop fucking camping.
In all seriousness, stop fucking camping.
I think it's because some of the campers I see can't be enjoying themselves.
Well personally I don't load up a game to sit at the end of the corridor, aiming down it for 10 minutes just for one person to wander past.
Yeah, this is only a handful of campers, but it's the worst examples that stick with me. And probably with everyone else. Hence the camping hate.
EDIT:
Oh, also, campers on objective games can get annoying. Holding a position because we need to defend, that's fine. But when the entire team just sits around their objective and makes no attempt to go for the enemy's, it can get a little... tiresome.
Well personally I don't load up a game to sit at the end of the corridor, aiming down it for 10 minutes just for one person to wander past.
Yeah, this is only a handful of campers, but it's the worst examples that stick with me. And probably with everyone else. Hence the camping hate.
EDIT:
Oh, also, campers on objective games can get annoying. Holding a position because we need to defend, that's fine. But when the entire team just sits around their objective and makes no attempt to go for the enemy's, it can get a little... tiresome.
im glad many people are liking my strategy. I know my tactic is a different kind of camping but dont mind people who sit in a corner with a shotgun. the immortal words of CPT. Price "check your corners". listen to the man he knows what hes talking about.
It's an exploit, the game isn't designed around wait and AR tactics. The controller doesn't allow for it (you're 90 degrees to someone just by staying still you auto-win. every time.)
kb+m games can allow for it because you can actually respond, but on a controller based game, with crazy acceleration shit making it impossible to reliably turn
It's heavily exploitative.
kb+m games can allow for it because you can actually respond, but on a controller based game, with crazy acceleration shit making it impossible to reliably turn
It's heavily exploitative.
campers make an arcade-y shooting game awful.
its team deathmatch, GO OUT AND FUCKING SHOOT AT PEOPLE and get shot at, have firefights instead of just killing some dude whom happened to run through the building you're sitting in like a *****.
CODexample:
oh, you camping in building?
good thing BO has tacticool mask pro giving out dots when I throw out flash or stunners.
its team deathmatch, GO OUT AND FUCKING SHOOT AT PEOPLE and get shot at, have firefights instead of just killing some dude whom happened to run through the building you're sitting in like a *****.
CODexample:
oh, you camping in building?
good thing BO has tacticool mask pro giving out dots when I throw out flash or stunners.
What alot of people call camping isnt camping its a defensive play style.
Camping is looking at one point(usually a doorway,street or a spawn area) and shooting at anything that crosses their path. Also doesnt play to help out the overall team effort
where as defensive tactics are where you use the surroundings to protect yourself and give the other guy no cover. helps the team by defending the objective.
Example:
theres an open pipe lying on the ground with one end blocked. a camper will hide inside and shoot only when an enemy passes his/her gunsight or spawns. a defensive player will use the pipe as cover to help out his/her team.
Camping is looking at one point(usually a doorway,street or a spawn area) and shooting at anything that crosses their path. Also doesnt play to help out the overall team effort
where as defensive tactics are where you use the surroundings to protect yourself and give the other guy no cover. helps the team by defending the objective.
Example:
theres an open pipe lying on the ground with one end blocked. a camper will hide inside and shoot only when an enemy passes his/her gunsight or spawns. a defensive player will use the pipe as cover to help out his/her team.
Camping was originally hated in FPS games like Quake where a person would hang out in one spot where a key power-up or weapon spawned. In those games you started off with the same weapon and had to find the better ones. In those games a camper would, for example, stand in a particular room which regularly spawned the same weapon, ammo and a few health packs regularly and kill anyone who came in rather than grab the equipment and go hunting. These guys may not win the match, because people would avoid that part of the map, but they still monopolised access to those specific weapons/powerups.
For this reason there are still people who view staying in a fixed spot for any reason as negative.
However with the "realistic" FPS games the real issue, as has been stated, is spawn camping. Yes a clever sniper pisses you off but you respect their ability to hide and pick you off but someone just sitting at the right point and killing everyone that spawns and then gloating at winning a match is a real pain in the ass.
For this reason there are still people who view staying in a fixed spot for any reason as negative.
However with the "realistic" FPS games the real issue, as has been stated, is spawn camping. Yes a clever sniper pisses you off but you respect their ability to hide and pick you off but someone just sitting at the right point and killing everyone that spawns and then gloating at winning a match is a real pain in the ass.
I'm not a fan of camping by means of finding one spot and hiding there hoping someone runs past, so you can grab an easy kill.
What I am a fan of is holding a strong position while fighting off enemies.
I do what you're talking about all the time. Baiting people to come into your turf, and smiting them like the dumbasses they are. DO NOT TRY AND KILL SOMEONE WHO KNOWS YOU ARE COMING. YOU WILL DIE.
What I am a fan of is holding a strong position while fighting off enemies.
I do what you're talking about all the time. Baiting people to come into your turf, and smiting them like the dumbasses they are. DO NOT TRY AND KILL SOMEONE WHO KNOWS YOU ARE COMING. YOU WILL DIE.
Camping, for me at least, is not "staying in a hidden spot" but "staying in a hidden spot where no one could ever see you or hit you".
I don't give a shit at how much "realistic" or "legitimate" this strategy is. It's not fun. Games are about having FUN.
BC2 solved camping for me, because it allowed hidden spots and plenty of them- but you're never invincible, even in the best corner ever, because someone could always counter it with an explosive.
Also, spotting. Spotting is awesome.
I don't give a shit at how much "realistic" or "legitimate" this strategy is. It's not fun. Games are about having FUN.
BC2 solved camping for me, because it allowed hidden spots and plenty of them- but you're never invincible, even in the best corner ever, because someone could always counter it with an explosive.
Also, spotting. Spotting is awesome.
It depends on the scenario really. If you're objective is to defend an objective, then by all means camp. Why would anyone leave the objective. Like why would an attacker camp, waiting for the defenders to charge them.
Doesn't make sense.
Deathmatch games though, there's hardly any tactics and people run around like headless chickens, so I guess that's alright too.
Sort of reminds me of playing Counter Strike 1.6. Terrorists inside a building watching hostages, getting the most kills and the CT's call them noobs and campers for defending an objective.
Spawn camping is never ok though.
Doesn't make sense.
Deathmatch games though, there's hardly any tactics and people run around like headless chickens, so I guess that's alright too.
Sort of reminds me of playing Counter Strike 1.6. Terrorists inside a building watching hostages, getting the most kills and the CT's call them noobs and campers for defending an objective.
Spawn camping is never ok though.