Religion is dangerous not only through the way it clouds the mind with faith, but also through the way it is used as a method social control. That's always been the purpose of religion.MrNeil said:Religion, I frankly blame that for the worlds downfall. Religion on a political, economical and 'insane people' level.
I'm probably more scared of Christianity these days than Islam. And that's coming from a soldier.
Not only that, but also paying money for goods and services that one could obtain themselves through a little effort. Most people, when they need something, will just go out right away and pay money for it.Antidamacus said:Consumerism. Going out of your way to get things because you have to have them.
Just in the influence that we have and the fact that it's so widespread. The Roman Empire was much more competent, I'd agree with that statement. And I view it as a slowly dying empire is all...WrongSprite said:yeah, the romans did some good aswell.Spudgun Man said:I also agree, at least the roman empire were competent.Wasder said:As would I.Optimus Prime said:Is it a modern day Roman Empire? I'd disagree with that.
You know those idiots who talk in the news about all the crime the GTA games cause? About all the school shootings being the responsibility of Maralyn Manson? You are doing the exact same thing when you blame religion for the terrible things that people do. Worse, you completely overlook the fact that even without religion people do terrible things. Some of the people who don't believe in "this bullshit" have committed some of the worst attrocities imaginable in the name of "cleaning it up". Do I hold atheism responsible for that? Of course not. That would be ridiculous for the simple reason there are over a billion atheists in the world and for the most part they are not trying to wipe out other creeds and cultures, but are happy to lead their lives with their own beliefs. By the exact same token, how can religion really be responsible for so much shit in the world when there are at least 4 billion theists in the world who all just live their lives and don't try to cause any trouble?MrNeil said:I still say religion. The reasons why I blame organised religion are far too great in number to explain. But seeing it first hand through my family, friends and work has made me feel this way. I'm watching evangelical Christian headcases prophesise and encourage working towards doomsday as well as stamping out others who do not accept their views, Islamic fundamentalists who cut off the hands of children and bully their women into utter oppression, Hindu's who can't settle on their land rights and Jews who cannot tolerate a Muslim presence.
It's frightening stuff, it really really is. In this modern day and age it's still incredibly terrifying to see how it continues to function. Some of the people that believe in this bullshit are world leaders, important political figures and celebrities! That counts for all religions too.
I can see the world being torn apart within the next twenty or thirty years.
but which nation shouts the loudest?Shadowtek said:Ego. The whole world says their the best, when most are equal in more ways than they realize. So I believe the biggest problem is the rulers of each country have egos that are way out of control. (or the worlds dependence on fossil fuels.)
You're pretty much completely right. And I say that as someone who has spent the majority of his life in America.Archaon6044 said:but which nation shouts the loudest?
please forgive me for the ignorant hate-crime the rest of this post is about to become
most of europe looks at america and your rabid patriotism and sighs deeply.
the only reason your the 'greatest nation on earth' is because you declared yourself so, and just happen to be the biggest MEDC going at the moment.
we look at you and see an excited and spoiled child (in terms of history) who's just learned that he get what he wants by screaming at his parents (that would be us, over here in europe with a history longer than 200 years)
eventaully china will take over, and they WILL be better than yo, but you won't be able to handle not being the kid with the biggest collection of toys.
/ignorant hate-crime
That's because your ignorance is affirmed by the media dangling extremists in your face.MrNeil said:I still say religion. The reasons why I blame organised religion are far too great in number to explain. But seeing it first hand through my family, friends and work has made me feel this way. I'm watching evangelical Christian headcases prophesise and encourage working towards doomsday as well as stamping out others who do not accept their views, Islamic fundamentalists who cut off the hands of children and bully their women into utter oppression, Hindu's who can't settle on their land rights and Jews who cannot tolerate a Muslim presence.
It's frightening stuff, it really really is. In this modern day and age it's still incredibly terrifying to see how it continues to function. Some of the people that believe in this bullshit are world leaders, important political figures and celebrities! That counts for all religions too.
I can see the world being torn apart within the next twenty or thirty years.
i like his analogy more. it's shorter, more succinct and gets the point across better.CaptainEgypt said:You're pretty much completely right. And I say that as someone who has spent the majority of his life in America.Archaon6044 said:but which nation shouts the loudest?
please forgive me for the ignorant hate-crime the rest of this post is about to become
most of europe looks at america and your rabid patriotism and sighs deeply.
the only reason your the 'greatest nation on earth' is because you declared yourself so, and just happen to be the biggest MEDC going at the moment.
we look at you and see an excited and spoiled child (in terms of history) who's just learned that he get what he wants by screaming at his parents (that would be us, over here in europe with a history longer than 200 years)
eventaully china will take over, and they WILL be better than yo, but you won't be able to handle not being the kid with the biggest collection of toys.
/ignorant hate-crime
It's like Lewis Black put it; imagine if you worked at an office. Every day, one of your coworkers loudly and egotistically proclaims that he's the best worker there and the rest of you would be hopeless without him.
What would everyone's impression of that coworker be? Probably that he's a douchebag who hurts more than he helps.
No, they won't, I don't see China lasting for more than 10-20 years before the population finally get sick of their leaders and the bloodbath that follows that will set China back even further than they have become.Archaon6044 said:[
eventaully china will take over, and they WILL be better than yo