Canadian SF Author beaten and arrested at Border Crossing.
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He got out of the car and argued with a cop. He deserves what happens next.
True story of what happened to me.
I got pulled over by two cop cars at four in the morning.
I put it in park, left the car running and stepped out and started to walk over to them.
The cops immediately put their hands on their guns and one of them told me to get back inside.
I got back inside.
The cop came over and asked me if something was wrong.
I said, "no. I'm sorry I just were never pulled over before."
Cop: "Where are you going?"
Me: "I'm trying to get these drunks back to their homes." My friends were all quite scared at this point while I'm a bit confused.
The cop then told me he pulled me over because my headlights were off. He asked me to put it on and checked my license and registration and let me go. I got pulled over by him two more times and let go each time. The last time he wanted me to stop a coffee shop and drink a gallon of coffee before heading home and make damn sure my headlights were on.
The gist of what I'm saying is just do what the cops tell you to do and don't cop an attitude.
True story of what happened to me.
I got pulled over by two cop cars at four in the morning.
I put it in park, left the car running and stepped out and started to walk over to them.
The cops immediately put their hands on their guns and one of them told me to get back inside.
I got back inside.
The cop came over and asked me if something was wrong.
I said, "no. I'm sorry I just were never pulled over before."
Cop: "Where are you going?"
Me: "I'm trying to get these drunks back to their homes." My friends were all quite scared at this point while I'm a bit confused.
The cop then told me he pulled me over because my headlights were off. He asked me to put it on and checked my license and registration and let me go. I got pulled over by him two more times and let go each time. The last time he wanted me to stop a coffee shop and drink a gallon of coffee before heading home and make damn sure my headlights were on.
The gist of what I'm saying is just do what the cops tell you to do and don't cop an attitude.
What I don't get (although I have only read the first page of comments so maybe I missed something) is everyone rushing to defend something that dose not need to be defended. Even assuming things happened as the article says, I still side with the border cops, they did the right thing.
Edit: Let me clarify something although it may already be too late, the way I see things it is their job to keep people out of the states.
Edit: Let me clarify something although it may already be too late, the way I see things it is their job to keep people out of the states.
uhm, so Im taking it most of you have never crossed an international border before. I will say this once: You never, ever get out of your Fucking CAR unless you are told to.
that certainly doesn't warrant a beating, but its all to easy to see things getting out of hand from there, and frankly I have a hard time believing that any attack was not provoked. You do not argue with the authorities in a foreign country. you are a guest and you dont have any fucking rights there. try pulling this shit in any other country and see what happens.
that certainly doesn't warrant a beating, but its all to easy to see things getting out of hand from there, and frankly I have a hard time believing that any attack was not provoked. You do not argue with the authorities in a foreign country. you are a guest and you dont have any fucking rights there. try pulling this shit in any other country and see what happens.
Okay, something I seem to be noticing here. A lot of people are claiming that the article is biased- it is, good for you. But that is no reason to assume that its opposite is true. At this point in time we currently do not have enough information to determine just who is in the right, so let's stop playing the blame game, eh?
This usually happens in every corrupt country such as mine. The rules are simple when being mugged by borderland police: just give them some money and pray that they're satisfied and don't considered you looked or talked(in this case) funny. Everyone is corrupt so don't acted surprised, it's not like we didn't know that.
I would say that more than likely he got out of the car and asked a question. At that time he was probably told to get back into his car. He refused and asked the question again. At that point they probably told him something like this: "Sir, if you do not return to your vehicle you will be placed under arrest." Apparently he didn't get back into the car and when the police attempted to arrest him he probably resisted and 99% of the time if you resist arrest there is going to be an Assault charge against you as well. Assault isn't hard to accomplish, all he had to do was put his hands on the officer when he went to cuff him and that's assault.Cheeze_Pavilion said:
That being said, while I don't think that the way most police stops are handled is correct, there are alot of violent people in the US, our murder rate is TRIPLE that of Canada, and police officers do not play games when it comes to their safety.
Also, for everyone making this into a "Boo America sucks!" thread, grow up. There are over 250million people in the US and we are not all at fault everytime someone who works for the US govt. does something stupid. Hell, most AMERICANS dislike the US govt.
Why were you laughing?thewerebuffalo said:
Actually yes they have stopped terrorists. I'm not saying everyday, but they have. Just do a little research into it. For a while there the Canadian border was their choice crossing point into the USA because it is or was a little more lenient the the Mexican border.
It could have come down to him just being difficult. If you are told not to get out of the car and you do, then refuse to get back in, even though you are doing nothing threatening, it is still non compliance. Non compliance isn't worth a beating, but even refusing to put your hands behind your back or complying to an officer is a crime in itself which warrants arrest. You don't have to make a fool of yourself and get violent to be regulated by law enforcement. I bet if he would have just let them do their thing he would have crossed without incident, even if it delayed his plans for the day for a while.Cheeze_Pavilion said:
It's just a little insulting when people generalize everyone on the actions of a few or one. We could just as easily say that all British people are arrogant pricks who have no respect for law enforcement just because of the action of one man.Polyintrinsic said:
Pretty much. Being an average citizen of the age of 13, I don't really know. All I know (or pretend to anyway) is that we have an unnecessary amount of weapons, a bad economy, and way of life like no other. in short, we are different, in some ways bad and in some ways good.SikOseph said:
Don't get me wrong, if I could I'd go and protest for his release. He did nothing wrong. We are just too willing to look at a foreigner and scream "Terroist!! Get on the ground sir! *kick* Now !! *kick**kick* Sir! *tase**melee* Sir! Stop struggling! *pepper spray**kick**kick", when all he did was ask which way the fucking bathroom was.
If we are such a fucking badass power, then why must everything be either a terrorist or a patriot. Even being in AP World history, I'm learning about the US's past and my response was "Wow. Oh my god. We are pricks." I feel like i need to apologize to so many countries and people. For the horribleness of my country. fuck