Caual Gamers in Game Stores.

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KeyMaster45

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TheNecroswanson post=9.69245.653991 said:
if you actually understand the horror behind the words, "Superman 64".
*Shudders* I thank god every day I only rented that game for a weekend

But in response to this thread, Casual gamers aren't stupid, they're just uninformed. When they ask a question that most gamers know as a fact of life the best thing to do is give them the simplest explanation about it while informing them correctly. What you shouldn't do is shun them or call them stupid (depending on where said question is asked). Casual gamers are potential customers that can help expand the industry so that everyone who plays benefits from higher quality games.

Even if sometimes the questions want to make you claw out your own eyes in frustration.
 

Justanothernoob

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It is funny to me that every time I read threads like this one I notice a pattern. On one side you have the people that are speaking though they are writing the laws of gaming 'You Shall Not like Any Game that I do not approve.' and the followers of such. And then of course their counterparts speaking of 'Freedom of Playing'. I do not allow things like what everyone else is playing decide what i am going to play. Reviews are nice I guess but I wonder if they really make up peoples mind for them? Do these people read papers on movies not seeing something because fat guy did not like it? It all boggles my mind at times.

If you think about it everyone is a casual gamer unless you are getting paid to play it. You are doing it casually. I hope no one here thinks they are hardcore at gaming so much and everything that not only do they have time to read these post but reply to it...
 

The Denzel

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It's not that annoying, pre-order or deposit solves the running out issue...

As far as bad choices, I usually tell people.. I stopped some guy from buying "Ubersoldier" which I think was nice of me, lol.
 

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Space Spoons post=9.69245.654398 said:
I wouldn't say EA, Bungie and Blizzard waste the money they make, but hey; different strokes for different folks.
OK, I admit that was a bit harsh. What I actually meant by that was that those companies create one game that was quite good and even innovative in some way when it was new, so lots of people started playing it (Starcraft, Warcraft and Diablo for example. I wouldn't call Halo, EA sports games or the NFS series innovative) and then just spend their time (and their customers' money) on making the games look better without changing anything about the gameplay, and if they change anything, make their games less interesting and better suited for low-IQ players, also known as "today's kids" ^^

I see your point, but honestly, even if the money's not being spent ideally, it's still going to the industry... And that's a win, in the long run. Casuals get more Brain Age and Raving Rabbids (both of which I enjoyed, by the way, save your snark), hardcores get more Grand Theft Auto and Metal Gear Solid. Everyone wins.
And this is exactly the way a free market works, and should work. People buy things, and companies produce more things similar to those people bought, because they know people will buy such things.
But a system like that could effectively kill a creative industry (which an industry creating videogames, or actually any kind of games, should be), because people will get used to buying games with basically the same covers (I can spot Tomb Raider or Need For Speed games, as well as run-of-the-mill shooters about 30 meters ahead, which is pretty amazing considering my eyes, and thus easily avoid them), which usually means basically the same gameplay, and lots of people won't even consider a game with just a barely visible guy in a parka standing in a mine shaft, a dark grey disc hovering over burning hangar buildings or a monstrous tripod walker shooting at a battleship on them.
This might be bad marketing on behalf of the less-bought games, but often these are produced by small companies that can'T afford huge ad campaigns, but have really great ideas for games. And of course the skills to implement them.
 

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Quistnix post=9.69245.653926 said:
Oh, you mean just like all the "hardcore!" gamers acted when they ignorantly entered game stores back when the PS1 launched?

Get a bit of perspective. You are not superior to what you scathingly refer to as "casual" gamers or soccer moms. At least they are having fun with the games, instead of being frustrated all the time just because their hobby has hit a bigger market.
you mean when the NES came out...
 

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Nah I don't really feel like punching them in face. Because, as others have already said, I still remember when I was just like them. Sure whining kids can be annoying, but they don't whine exclusively in games stores.

In fact you can even have reasonably decent conversations with these 'Casual Gamers'. I remember when a few mates of mine and me were in a store and we heard a kid (about 10-11 maybe?) asking for a game with the mother (I don't think she had a soccer tattoo) replying that it was probably to violent. Identifying us correctly as people who might know about these things she lifted up the case and said "Is this too violent?" the game was Rainbow 6: Vegas. I replied straight away with something like "Well, it is a violent game, but you have to remember that you are committing violence against terrorists, which is good in anyones books. Also its a very fun game," It must have convinced her somehow, cause the kid thanking me and she bought it.

I left the store satisfied that I had made the world a better place. Shanks away!
 

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I don't really care what other gamers (whatever 'type' of gamer they are) buy. However, I do remember a moment when a mother was about to buy her 6-year-old GTA IV, obviously unaware of the content. I did nudge her and tell her it wasn't really suitable for people that age, and explained why. She thanked me, and didn't buy it.

Who cares what people buy, as long as they're having fun? However, in the above situation, I thought someone needed to tell the mother, she was going to find out eventually...
 

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Quistnix post=9.69245.653926 said:
Oh, you mean just like all the "hardcore!" gamers acted when they ignorantly entered game stores back when the PS1 launched?

Get a bit of perspective. You are not superior to what you scathingly refer to as "casual" gamers or soccer moms. At least they are having fun with the games, instead of being frustrated all the time just because their hobby has hit a bigger market.
QIA, elitism is never cool, especially when it comes to video games. If you are offended or angered by what 'casual gamers' say or do, then it'd probably help if you removed your head from your arse.
 

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I have officially found a middle ground!

"Game Enthusiasist"- One who casually enjoys their hobby of serious gaming; is able to take part in serious game activities and conversations but yet still enjoy an active social life

It's a term I recently came up with in a recent conversation with my girlfriend. I believe that about 35-40 percent of the video game community belongs in this category. It must be realized that gamers do not fit into 2 or 3 categories, but something like 5 to 8. Just like the political spectrum, beliefs and pratices cannot be summed up so easily. I suggest to everyone to start using these ideas and this new term as much as possible.

Knowledge is teH R0X0RZ!!!!
 

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TommyGun465 said:
Kid: "daddy, but I really want it! cmon!" refering to a game he never saw before (when I saw this it was about curious geaorge)
Soccer Mom: "you cant have that, its not your age" (refering to Spiderman 2)
Caual Gamer: "Oh this game has bazookas in it. im gonna buy it!" (refering to ratchet and clank. its a great game, but for violence, its not worth it)
Did you ever feel like punching these people in the face?
1. So your annoyed that a kid wants to buy a kids game.. Kay...
2. Your annoyed that she is being a good mother? If more people were like that we might get the media of gamers backs!
3. Im not seeing the problem here.. At all.. The games marketing is working!

So yeah.. you fit my idea of a hardcore gamer perfectly. I bet you play halo on live and yell at noobs for being 't3h sux0r'

Awesome!
 
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Casual gamers actually have it easier than us hardcore gamers. They play games for fun, but we are so busy trying to top each other or ourselves, we seem to be forgetting the point of games. Except for Rock Band players. That game is auto-fun no matter what. My point is, don't look down your nose at casual gamers, because they might be doing the same back at you.
 

Kagrath

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I will say this about the kids; there are few greater joy's in life than seeing a kid's face after telling his parents that the game he wants is rated M for a reason.
Casual's aren't too bad, most of them around my parts seem to at least research before dumping their hard earned money on chance.
 

Smyter

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Caual Gamers should be but in a safe place each with their own room with nice metal bars and a big cafateria and a high security playground now if only such a place existed ..oh and there is a high probability of getting stabbed
 

Ronmarru

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Let me get out my hostility goggles so my eyes don't melt. Ah, that's better. While I disagree with your points, I see what you mean.
"Hardcore" implies that they know what games play the best(not the dicks who think they're better than you, just those who game alot).
"Casual" means they know what games are fun.
"Oblivious" means they go by pictures and what the box says.
It's the oblivious ones I'd like to punch. Not because I'm better than them(I was the same way once), but because they don't really care what they're getting. It's like buying a car based only on looks and what the dealer says.
 

Sgt. Pepper

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A lot of people are saying, "ZOMG LIEK WTF I HAET IT WHEN CASAUL GAMERS BYE BAD GAMES"

I'm not sure why;

A) Since when did you become their personal accountants, telling them what to and what not to buy, and

B) When did you get hired as the Fun police? I'm pretty sure if they're buying that 'crappy' game, they'll have fun with it, so what's it to you?

Also, who gives a flying squadron of spoon - wielding camels if you're in the store with soccer moms? Trust me, they don't bite. By spewing all this hatred towards casual gamers and women, all you're doing is reinforcing a common stereotype of gamers: Anti - social, easily angered trolls who despise all contact with anyone who differs from them.

In conclusion; Why do you care who's in the store? Just buy your game and leave, dammit. Stop bitching.
 

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Sometimes you do see some horrifyingly stupid people. I saw someting buying Big Rig truckers, *shudder* I wanted to tell them, but I just couldn't, it's like a train wreck. You don't want to look, but you do anyway.

I also got to see someone who never owned a game system or apparently hadn't thought to check the internet come into a gamestop to complain that his xbox 360 wasn't working. (His disc was in upside down.)

Then there was the guy who put a ds game into his wii thinking it would play it and couldn't get it out again.

And let's not forget my former friend who asked to borrow two of my pokemon games (Yellow and Red) way back and then traded thm in to get a crappy wrestling game. He traded in like 12 games and then still had to pay for it. I was pissed. I even told him that I would have just bought him the damn game if he hadn't traded in my games without even fucking asking me. As you can understand I don't talk to him anymore, he was an idiot.
 

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Limos post=9.69245.657498 said:
Sometimes you do see some horrifyingly stupid people. I saw someting buying Big Rig truckers, *shudder* I wanted to tell them, but I just couldn't, it's like a train wreck. You don't want to look, but you do anyway.

I also got to see someone who never owned a game system or apparently hadn't thought to check the internet come into a gamestop to complain that his xbox 360 wasn't working. (His disc was in upside down.)

Then there was the guy who put a ds game into his wii thinking it would play it and couldn't get it out again.

And let's not forget my former friend who asked to borrow two of my pokemon games (Yellow and Red) way back and then traded thm in to get a crappy wrestling game. He traded in like 12 games and then still had to pay for it. I was pissed. I even told him that I would have just bought him the damn game if he hadn't traded in my games without even fucking asking me. As you can understand I don't talk to him anymore, he was an idiot.
you considered someone like this your 'friend'
 

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i can't tell you how many times i've been kicked in the shins by 6-10 year olds becuase i went out of my way to tell their parents that the games they were going to buy for their kids were too violent.