I never got the appeal of Miranda Lawson from Mass Effect, she's hot (I guess), professional bad ass... and basically... OH MY GOD!
Miranda Lawson is the Rei Ayanami of cliché video game females, a hot badass, with a get shit done, take no shit attitude, who has just enough vulnerable moments to let the main character in. Even their back stories are more or less similar.
I really don't see in anyway how Miranda and Rei fit the same archetype. Miranda is willful-Rei is a doormat. The only similarities they have is that they're both genetically engineered-that's it. I'd say Rei has more in common with Legion than Miranda.
I never got the appeal of Miranda Lawson from Mass Effect, she's hot (I guess), professional bad ass... and basically... OH MY GOD!
Miranda Lawson is the Rei Ayanami of cliché video game females, a hot badass, with a get shit done, take no shit attitude, who has just enough vulnerable moments to let the main character in. Even their back stories are more or less similar.
I really don't see in anyway how Miranda and Rei fit the same archetype. Miranda is willful-Rei is a doormat. The only similarities they have is that they're both genetically engineered-that's it. I'd say Rei has more in common with Legion than Miranda.
It's because of the different tropes, but applied for the same reason, Miranda is the genetically created Video Game archetype, she is Lara Croft, Claire Redfield, Jill Valentine, Tifa Lockheart, Morrigan (From DA not DS) and Alyx Vance rolled into one ultimate.
Where as Rei is the idol archetypes rolled into one.
Rei from Evangelion. Seriously, I don't get the fanboy idolization of this character...it just eludes me entirely. All I know is that Rule 34 really went ape-shit with her. *shudder* The things I've seen...... >.>
That's the wonderful irony behind her character; She was created as a way of saying 'This is what a fantasy girl would be like in real life, and it's not a good thing'. And then fans proceed to idolize her for being the perfect fantasy girl.
Yeah I kinda hated her in the series and saw her as a weird perversion of life. She is literally the physical embodiment of the Oedipus complex. I actually started to like her in rebuild 2.0 when she was starting to become human, but Anno I a massive troll and an assshole so he kills her off screen and replaces her with the old one.
On Topic: Tiny Tina. She is the Borderland's equivalent of Jar-Jar Binks except she was designed to appeal to teenagers instead.
Arya Stark, from Game of Thrones (the TV show). I'll grant, I haven't read the books. But do I have to have read them to like the character in the show?
I don't buy that The Hound has decided to take her on as basically his adoptive daughter and risk his life to protect her for what will almost certainly end up being no money (he's got to know he might not get anything from her aunt, right?), she's delusional about her abilities as a fighter (it's only recently that she's even been able to take a random dude in a fight, let alone a trained soldier), she has no apparent personality traits aside from 'spunky,' she's been awful about keeping her identity a secret, and I don't think Maisie Williams has enough range as an actress to play her convincingly. A little bit of a sense of humor might give her some depth for example. And no, I don't think the hollow laugh from the last episode counts as 'humor.'
Also, it bothers me that people are so 100% sold on her (and Daenerys, but that's a different discussion). Is it just because she's a little girl and isn't doing girly things? I don't see why that makes her much less of a cliche: instead of doing generic girl things, she's doing generic boy things. How progressive!
Keep watching, things wont turn out the way you think they will.
As for personality traits: Defiant, resents personal weakness, values her family, determined to survive, is willing to take risks, clever, naive(much like her sister in some ways), desires vengeance/justice for her father. I like her because she is an interesting character and does interesting things, I am excited to find out where her life will lead her.
Harry Potter and Ron Weasley. Most of my friends that are into the series really like Harry and Ron, but I just don't understand it. In my view Harry gets by on luck, whereas Ron to me looks like a hanger on that occasionally gets jealous of his more famous best friend. I welcome people to try and change my mind, but I think my opinion mainly stems from the idea that I was never really into the Harry Potter universe in the first place.
This thread topic is exactly why I always hated talking to other bronies back when I was one.
Derpy Hooves, Vinyl Scratch, Dr. Whooves, Carrot Top, Octavia, the list goes on. I didn't and still don't get why that fandom loves to latch on to the most inconsequential of background characters. I also didn't understand the Fluttershy and Luna love, but they at least have characterization, and personality, and lines of dialogue.
While we're on the subject, I don't understand why Jotaro (or Stardust Crusaders in general)is the most popular Jojo. So far part 2 has been better in every way in my book.
Oh my god, spoiler that OP immediately. As the de facto Persona 4 fan here (shut up I am) that blatant spoiler wounds me. Do you have no respect for the sanctity of the murder/mystery stories? You're one step away from being that guy who underlines the killer's name in a public library copy of a mystery novel.
But yeah, I'm not pleased about Adatchi being an S Link in Golden or what have you. He's the fucking main villain and is a total sociopathic, homicidal maniac, how about you keep him as the lovable joke character turned suddenly evil instead.
In regards to your spoiler, I'm glad there was an S Link in Golden for that character, as it actually helped throw off suspicion. I would have found it pretty odd to have S Link connections with virtually every other character you interact with and NOT that one. Admittedly I haven't played vanilla P4, so I don't know if the character was less present in the original, but I would have been very suspicious indeed if there had been no S Link with all the interactions in Golden.
Who gave this pathetic whinging prick a blade? Who thought it was a good idea to make this egotistical, arrogant self serving scum fuck an assassin? No, seriously!?
The stupid prick doesn't shut up about killing people. He's loud, obnoxious and brash and all around unlikeable. His complete dickery just makes the bullshit mechanics stand out like dogs bollocks, and breaks all immersion for me. He doesn't deserve to be an assassin, he deserves to be hung drawn and quartered for the murder HE CONFESSED TO AT THE VERY BEGINNING!
Ezio is everything most gamers, nerds, geeks, et al hate about the "normal" society. He's dumb as a post. He's a womanizing asshat. He's a stereotypical jock. Maybe it's envy, I don't know, but I never got it. The moment I first saw Ezio in the game I just rolled my eyes and thought "great, 40 hours of this jerk."
I thought at the end of AC2 that he had matured a bit, so AC:B wouldn't be so bad. It wasn't, however, omg, the Christina missions. Yes, please, let's have more of younger Ezio doing things that would offend anyone with a reasonable sense of respect. AGH.
At least he was all around good guy by Revelations, if you could stomach him that long. I rather wish that AC2 had started with AC:R era Ezio.
As for some of the others, I do get Sephiroth. Sephiroth is the stereotypical angst-angry '90's hero villain. He started out FF7 as "that other guy who's better than my current character" and you expect that he's going to be a companion later in the game, and then he pulls something really atrocious and spends the rest of the game just playing at the ultimate bad guy. He's not the best villain ever, but he wasn't annoying like Kefka (another candidate for this list in my opinion) and was generally compelling as someone you wanted to kill.
Oh, and I agree with jhoroz. Misato will always be win. Win. On a stick. Drinking a beer with a penguin.
I know it hasn't happen yet in this season of The Boondocks... but, who's idea was it to bring back Stinkmeaner? Was he really that BIG of a fan favorite that they have to somewhat "retcon" that one episode from Season 2 (and maybe that other episode from Season 3, given the name of that particular episode) in the first place??
OT: Jack Frost from Rise of the Guardians... He's a "cool" character and all... but, that's about it, really... (The amount of fanart I saw of him before I even saw that movie made me question his popularity... and I still do to this day...)
Also, Rule 63 Adventure Time... and don't tell me it's because of the Ice King... (I wouldn't believe you, anyway...)
Marvel's Loki. I think all the love he gets comes from being played by Tom Hiddleston rather than being an actually interesting character, or an effective bad guy for that matter.
As a massive (film) Loki fangirl, I can confirm that the majority of his appeal comes from the fact that he's incredibly fuckable. Women can be just as straightforward as men in that regard He's absolutely gorgeous, has a sexy voice and fits the oh-so-predictable-but-still-deeply-attractive "sympathetic bad boy" stereotype. I'm a fan of the comics too but, while still awesome, the comics version doesn't have the same appeal.
OT: I'll agree with a couple of other posters and say Harry Potter and minor background characters in MLP. Harry's dull and actually a bit of a dick, while the ponies don't even qualify as characters in most cases. I get liking the art, but not to the extent where people put them up on the same level as named characters with actual dialogue and significance.
Sarah Kerrigan (aka "The Queen of Blades") from StarCraft.
Never understood her appeal. The Zerg were about 1000x cooler when they were controlled by a giant disembodied floating eyeball with a bad-ass voice. Then we have zombie Tricia Helfer with predator hair and organic high heels take over the swarm, and she seems to be bounce back and forth between genocidal maniac, love-struck teenager, and somewhere in-between.
To me, a large appeal of the Zerg were that they were truly Alien and vastly different, unlike the Terrans and Protoss. It was more appealing to me that the Zerg couldn't get angry, or frustrated, they didn't have egos, didn't conduct diplomacy, they just consumed. But then they decided to put a human character in charge of them and suddenly the swarm is vulnerable to her arrogance and she's conducting diplomacy and making alliances with races. Sorry, but bring back the "we eat everything" swarm.
I hope she gets killed in the next game and Abathur takes over, Abathur was a bad-ass.
Because as far as the events of the story were concerned Jenova was little more than a meat-puppet. Literally. One of the powers the story attributed to Sephiroth was the ability to control the parts of Jenova's body and make them carry out his will. Effectively, the story has it that Sephiroth was controlling Jenova in a way that could perhaps best be compared to how the player was controlling Cloud. Jenova was treated as a tool rather than a villain.
OT: Rei from Evangelion. Seriously, I don't get the fanboy idolization of this character...it just eludes me entirely. All I know is that Rule 34 really went ape-shit with her. *shudder* The things I've seen...... >.>
I'm the exact opposite. It's all the Asuka fan boys that I don't understand. She's a loud, neurotic, narcissistic, attention-seeking *****, who's deep-seeded trauma, while making her a compelling character, just drives the point that she's one crazy ***** that I do not want to be around with.
I always thought that the point was that they were foils for one another. Both characters were at their best when side by side. Even if you hated one of them, they compliment each others differences. I found it interesting that rei never speaks, but she's always honest and everything she said had meaning. Asuke never stopped talking, but she never said what she meant, and you could never take what she said seriously. Also, spoiler alert on Persona 4. I haven't finished it yet .
...I really don't get why people like these characters.
I knew Wrex was going to be a liability the second I laid eyes on him and chose to *not* enlist his help...and consequently the mission on Virmire went off without a hitch. Upon subsequent replays I found him to be pretty dull "Grr...I'm such a badass, look at my badassiness."
Garrus was...okay. Frankly I didn't really think he had anything interesting to say (and I'm a sucker for dialogue). Let alone any reason anyone would want to touch his...*shudders*.
To be totally honest, Ashley Williams is my favorite character...I ain't even trollin'.
Gordon Freeman; even a bloody brick shows more emotions than him. In fact it just feels like I move a camera around that can hold guns and move me to the next setpiece.
Definitely Ellie and Joel in The Last of Us. I did not find them very likeable, even by the end of the game, which was when we were all supposed to be in love with the relationship they had developed. I was still rooting for them a bit since I always back the protagonists, but in a grudging way.
Even though most people will know the ending plot, I'll still keep it under a tag.
I really wish there was a choice to let the surgeons sacrifice her for a possible cure. I remember trying to back out of the operating room hoping the doctors could work in peace. Oddly enough, Ellie would have rather been sacrificed for the cure too judging her feelings at the end.
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He's absolutely gorgeous, has a sexy voice and fits the oh-so-predictable-but-still-deeply-attractive "sympathetic bad boy" stereotype. I'm a fan of the comics too but, while still awesome, the comics version doesn't have the same appeal.
