Chavs, Hoodies, and other British subcultures/stereotypes

[Andalusa]

In fact my school sucks so much that every single person falls into either on of the four cliques: Chavs,Emos,Nerds,Jocks and Preps.

Um, that's five and you poor, poor person. Luckily in my school (it's a grammar school btw) only has Them (prettie/Plastics) Us (the decent people who have genuine friends) and The Others (who can't make up their mind) I fit in with the Us

 

[Zykon TheLich]

In fact my school sucks so much that every single person falls into either on of the four cliques: Chavs,Emos,Nerds,Jocks and Preps.

Um, that's five

Damn, his school really does suck...

 

[Danny Ocean]

It's more than likely due to diet, chavs tend to be very mousey and have skinny faces their eyes are deeper set than usual and their hair aswell seems to grow in a particular way. I really have no logical explanation for this other than that it has to be something to do with what they eat.

Chav + Chav = Chav

Let me explain. It is highly unlikely that anyone above chav status is going to mate with one of these unfortunately common creatures, so chavs have to make do with their fellow chavs. This exagerates the chavviness and so has created a separate 'race' with common characteristics.

 

[Natural Hazard]

hehe chavs, anyhow i fall into the Original type lol even though i have been deemed a metalhead :S taking into account I like Ukranian Pop Music and all others types of random shish. Back to chavs; you can spot a chav easily by their body movement they are only useful in numbers mind they cannot do anything on their own, funny really.

 

[Rockerallan]

It's more than likely due to diet, chavs tend to be very mousey and have skinny faces their eyes are deeper set than usual and their hair aswell seems to grow in a particular way. I really have no logical explanation for this other than that it has to be something to do with what they eat.

Chav + Chav = Chav

Let me explain. It is highly unlikely that anyone above chav status is going to mate with one of these unfortunately common creatures, so chavs have to make do with their fellow chavs. This exagerates the chavviness and so has created a separate 'race' with common characteristics.

That's actually very true I hadn't thought of it that way. You sir are a genius.

 

[Toasty]

I wear hoodies all the time, an im not a chav.
- its really not the hoody its self. ITS their fecking attitude. They are so pathetic in so many ways, yet they are totally 'cool' and 'hard' ie tuff.

oh and the female version... a 'chavette' usually wears enough glittery make-up to make them look plastic.

 

[Simski]

You Brittish people make me like my Swedish school more.
Where nobody has ever heard of the word 'Chav', where alot of people don't know what 'Emo' is, and where all the nerds look like regular people.
The only group of stereotypes I can think of that's rather common here is the Goth kids, although they don't hang around in groups, rather they hang around with anyone they feel like being with.

Also on the subject of stereotypes, what the hell is 'prep'?

 

[Shirahime]

I can't quite explain it, but chavs actually look like chavs anyway. You can see it in their face, I mean the actual fucking structure of their face.

I'm not going crazy here, someone else has to of noticed it too right? You could line 20 people up, 10 chavs and 10 regular folk... put them all in the same items of clothing and I'd still be able to spot the 10 chavs, easy peasy.

I would actually like an explanation for this.

They do all look the same; rough angular features, really awful facial piercings done by their mate in his kitchen, etc. They really aren't an attractive race at all. Infact I've seen a lot with this supposed added "'ardness" because some chav from a rival gang has given said person a Chelsea Grin.

 

[zirnitra]

well no, lots of teenagers where hoodies and aren't feared, but they're is the newspaper called the daily mail and it just sort of spews hate out of every poor and is main demographic black-cab drivers. and they say that all teenagers who wear hooded tops are criminals with knives and heroin on them. so because of this a lot of teenagers are discriminated against when entering a shop (having to lower them) because the reason they are so popular among this certain bunch of people is it hides they're identity when they go into shops to steal white cider and Mayfair fags.

chavs really are the scourge of the earth they're the cause of %97 of the England's crime the rest is Amy Winehouse. it would be a lovely place with out them.

if you'd like to see some proper ones in they're natural habitat youtube 'Jeremy Kyle'

 

[Dudemeister]

I think the "hoodie" is a stereotype but chavs are an actual group of idiots.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

I should just like to add a little bit of developmental psychology based on my own observations and having spent a lot of time with 'chavs' (I was going out with a a girl that would be called a chav these days, it was 'townie' where I was from back then, for the best part of 8 years) and other people on the bottom rung of the financial ladder.

You dont like walking through a council estate? Think what it would be like to actually live there. No escape, you cant run off home, you are home. There are a lot of predators out there, and they are good at what they do, they sense 'weakness' and prey on it. Not to mention alot of them hunt in packs, you're either with the pack or you're prey.
So to stop that you have to put on a mask and pretend your the same. Sometimes some clever fucker will manage to work their way through and see that you arent, you get fucked over and so you put your mask on even tighter. Eventually it gets to the point where you've been doing it so long you're not actually pretending anymore.

wow...metaphore-tastic. I always get that way with subjects I feel emotionally attached to...

 

[Johnn Johnston]

Chavs are generally aggressive towards people, including other chavs. They are almost always failures in any academic endeavour, and they often have a criminal record.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

To try and put it in a US perspective, 'chav' hating is a bit like assuming that because someone lives in a trailer park that they are an inbred meth smoking redneck. Not that theres anything wrong with smoking meth, and if you and your sister really want to get it on, I'm not going to stop you, but enough diversion...

I think that is why I find the whole thing rediculously appalling. Though trailer park people are often the butt of many jokes and classist side comments by no means is there an actual level of disgust for people based on the fact that they live in a trailer park. For example, I have been known to refer to people as "trash" after they demonstrate ignorant actions or poor hygene habits but I would never propose a reverse logic to that, or assume that all people in trailer parks smell like cigarettes and smoke meth.

From my perspective chav bashing just seems like more poorly worded classism and I think it is rediculously juvenile that some people try to present the notion as something bearing more truth than a stereotype based on broad generalities.

 

[Johnn Johnston]

From my perspective chav bashing just seems like more poorly worded classism and I think it is rediculously juvenile that some people try to present the notion as something bearing more truth than a stereotype based on broad generalities.

To me, the word "Chav" doesn't mean that they come from a poor background. To me, someone is a chav regardless of background if they are anti-social and aggressive towards everyone else. I admit, some people call people chavs if they come from a council estate, which is a generalisation.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

From my perspective chav bashing just seems like more poorly worded classism and I think it is rediculously juvenile that some people try to present the notion as something bearing more truth than a stereotype based on broad generalities.

To me, the word "Chav" doesn't mean that they come from a poor background. To me, someone is a chav regardless of background if they are anti-social and aggressive towards everyone else. I admit, some people call people chavs if they come from a council estate, which is a generalisation.

I live in a midwest college town, that's pretty much how all the frat guys act. I had to promise my wife that I wouldn't get shit faced in the Downtown area anymore since I typically get in fights with them.

All that considered, it's all a bunch of child's shit. I don't approach any of them with preconceived notions, if they fit the bill then I have enough ammo to hate them anyways. And if they act stupid then I just call the cops, I don't get paid to deal with their moronic shit, the cops do.

 

[zirnitra]

To try and put it in a US perspective, 'chav' hating is a bit like assuming that because someone lives in a trailer park that they are an inbred meth smoking redneck. Not that theres anything wrong with smoking meth, and if you and your sister really want to get it on, I'm not going to stop you, but enough diversion...

I think that is why I find the whole thing rediculously appalling. Though trailer park people are often the butt of many jokes and classist side comments by no means is there an actual level of disgust for people based on the fact that they live in a trailer park. For example, I have been known to refer to people as "trash" after they demonstrate ignorant actions or poor hygene habits but I would never propose a reverse logic to that, or assume that all people in trailer parks smell like cigarettes and smoke meth.

From my perspective chav bashing just seems like more poorly worded classism and I think it is rediculously juvenile that some people try to present the notion as something bearing more truth than a stereotype based on broad generalities.

no it's not. a chav is a genuine menace to society someone who is not, is jot a chav. they're is a lot of hate towards the council house people because a lot of them are chavs who simply cannot be arsed to get a proper job to afford rent so they got they're girlfriend pregnant to get a cushty free house. the other large amount of people in council housing are EU immigrants. so the people who genuinely deserve a house rarely get them.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

To me, the word "Chav" doesn't mean that they come from a poor background. To me, someone is a chav regardless of background if they are anti-social and aggressive towards everyone else. I admit, some people call people chavs if they come from a council estate, which is a generalisation.

As I mantioned earlier, part of the problem is that 'chav' has become a general usage term for people on a low income or from a working class background (albeit generally associated with a particular style of dress). Thats why I tried (unsuccesfully it seems) to point out that you (generally, not picking out you personally) should make it clear that your talking specifically about people who do actually cause trouble and not just as a general working class stereotype.

 

[Johnn Johnston]

Thats why I tried (unsuccesfully it seems) to point out that you (generally, not picking out you personally) should make it clear that your talking specifically about people who do actually cause trouble and not just as a general working class stereotype.

I got the point of your post, I was just saying that not all people apply the sterotype. Sorry for not making myself clearer.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

I got the point of your post, I was just saying that not all people apply the sterotype. Sorry for not making myself clearer.

You were clear...I just have this thing where I always have to point out 'I said it first, I'm the bestest, nyaa! nyaa!'

 

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