Chavs, Hoodies, and other British subcultures/stereotypes

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Rikrok77

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Chavs are often people who have been raised in such a way that they 'can't be arsed' i.e. they don't bother to put any real effort into anything they do in life. Often, they are given good chances at things e.g. education or a job but then lose it because they don't put any effort. They also often have a bad diet. The difficulty is, they are stereotyped and then try to live up to the given stereotype. But it's probably just a teenage thing =]
 

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TheBadass post=18.71454.768941 said:
I love how everyone here seems to act like chavs are the devil reincarnated, not realizing that odds are they'll look back on how they act at age fifteen/sixteen/ whatever and think "Wow, I was bloody annoying as well, just in a different and inventive way." It's kind of endearing.

Bleh, honestly though, it's nothing but classism at its worst. There are plenty of people who wear Airmax and are perfectly sociable and nice, but because they have an (irritating) accent and an ear piercing, people walk across the street to avoid them.

To all the people talking about them: go up and talk to someone who's a 'chav' in public. Not in school, because everyone's uptight there because of social groups and other menial stuff, but in public. Just make conversation. Maybe you won't consider them as annoying afterwards or maybe you will, but odds are they won't throw a rock at you straight away like people seem to think.
Well, the chavs in my class swear with every other word, listen to R&B and Linken Park and think they're 'The Shit', all wear hoodies or sportswear and say generally innappropriate and hurtful things so NO I don't want to talk to them. The ones on the street on the other hand move in packs, laugh and shout at me for no particular reason and GOB everywhere so NO, I don't want to talk to them either. I'm sure wearing sportswear dosen't immediately label you as a chav if that's what you're saying.
 

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Chav: Council Housed And Violent

and OP- you're more likely to be picked out 'cause you're a yank than because you're wearing a hood. Just be thankful you're not going to South Africa, a mate of mine got hospitalised because he was wearing a green hoody in the wrong part of Cape Town, and he got fucked over by a couple of the local gangsters who thought he was with a rival gang...
 

Tannhausyr

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The term chav is just a social classing of those who are "hoodie wearing scum"
the fact is, certain tabloids accuse people of being chavs because they wear certain clothing, which in fact, is incorrect.

The term chav, truly refers to people who have a certain type of attitude towards life.
They tend to be aggressive and unnecessarily rude. Their language use tends to be filled with profanities and sometimes used to insult those who walk past/look at them/dress differently/talk differently.

They tend to wear hoodies because it allows them to hide their identity from security cameras - thus allowing them to steal more easily. Quite often they wear caps with the hoodie (worn up regularly) so that their faces are even harder to see. Also due to some new fashion - they now wear these new hoodies which zip all the way up to the top of the hood and have goggles integrated in them.

But wearing a hoodie doesn't make you chav - though people [b/]will[/b] judge you by the way you look. The chav attitude populates all classes of society, though it does tend to be more prevalent in the poorer classes due to lack of education and poorer parenting ideals.

i could go on about this all day, but i shall quit my wall of text. i hope that answers your question.
 

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Vlad-X7 post=18.71454.769168 said:
The term chav is just a social classing of those who are "hoodie wearing scum"
the fact is, certain tabloids accuse people of being chavs because they wear certain clothing, which in fact, is incorrect.

The term chav, truly refers to people who have a certain type of attitude towards life.
They tend to be aggressive and unnecessarily rude. Their language use tends to be filled with profanities and sometimes used to insult those who walk past/look at them/dress differently/talk differently.

They tend to wear hoodies because it allows them to hide their identity from security cameras - thus allowing them to steal more easily. Quite often they wear caps with the hoodie (worn up regularly) so that their faces are even harder to see. Also due to some new fashion - they now wear these new hoodies which zip all the way up to the top of the hood and have goggles integrated in them.

But wearing a hoodie doesn't make you chav - though people [b/]will[/b] judge you by the way you look. The chav attitude populates all classes of society, though it does tend to be more prevalent in the poorer classes due to lack of education and poorer parenting ideals.

i could go on about this all day, but i shall quit my wall of text. i hope that answers your question.
Im pretty sure chav did start with the clothes as well as attitude. Usually guys in tracksuits with lots of bling and baseball caps with the girls sporting the same rubbish with fake tans and pushing prams, with anti social attitudes.

Now all anti-social teens have become classed as chavs.
 

DannyDamage

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Ula post=18.71454.724582 said:
Shoot all chavs in the head, right now I can hear a whole flock of them screaming, shouting and generally being, well, chavs. They must all go wash their hair then thow themselves off a cliff. Actually, that would be a waste of water and shampoo. They should just do the cliff thing.
Grow up fascist. You wonder why "they" give all the "alternative" kids shit. It's not all unprovoked. Chances are, that if you see a group of 3 or more kids in Shitknot hoodies and a single 'Chav' walks past, they'll give them grief.

This makes you no better than them. Not all people that are labelled chavs are worth getting rid off. Some of them are genuinely nice people and simple CHOOSE to dress like that and not all of them listen to 'banging dance tunes'.

In short: You've as much chance of meeting an "alternative" kid (wearing the same clothes as all his other "alt" friends) that's a prick as you do meeting a chav who's a prick.
 

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dannydamage post=18.71454.769213 said:
Ula post=18.71454.724582 said:
Shoot all chavs in the head, right now I can hear a whole flock of them screaming, shouting and generally being, well, chavs. They must all go wash their hair then thow themselves off a cliff. Actually, that would be a waste of water and shampoo. They should just do the cliff thing.
Grow up fascist. You wonder why "they" give all the "alternative" kids shit. It's not all unprovoked. Chances are, that if you see a group of 3 or more kids in Shitknot hoodies and a single 'Chav' walks past, they'll give them grief.

This makes you no better than them. Not all people that are labelled chavs are worth getting rid off. Some of them are genuinely nice people and simple CHOOSE to dress like that and not all of them listen to 'banging dance tunes'.

In short: You've as much chance of meeting an "alternative" kid (wearing the same clothes as all his other "alt" friends) that's a prick as you do meeting a chav who's a prick.
Obviously you don't even live in Britain.

I generally don't like to label groups of people but you can pretty much tell a chav from the way they look, it's a uniform of anti-socialism and ignorance.
 

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ThePlasmatizer post=18.71454.769231 said:
Obviously you don't even live in Britain.

I generally don't like to label groups of people but you can pretty much tell a chav from the way they look, it's a uniform of anti-socialism and ignorance.
Or it's your misconception that's wrong, not his. Throwing way someones argument because their view isn't the same as your own, therefore it must be invalid is kinda faulty, dude.
 

Galletea

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there appears to be a growing trend for people to fall into stereotypes. the chav was just a lout in sports clothes and a baseball cap, drinking and smoking and living off the state. but now extends to anyone with that kind of dress. hoodies were an invention of the media created after some youths in hoodies beat up someone while recording it on a camera phone. this then led as always to the stigmatisation of said item of clothing, branding all youths in them the spawn of hell. but that's died down a little now.

i don't like to pigeonhole people but right now they seem to be doing that job for me...emos i'm looking in your direction
 

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These things are vile creatures, what lurk my streets and takeaways! They are only entitled to death by poisonous injection. This is where ethnic cleaning is justified.
 

Tannhausyr

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ThePlasmatizer post=18.71454.769196 said:
Im pretty sure chav did start with the clothes as well as attitude. Usually guys in tracksuits with lots of bling and baseball caps with the girls sporting the same rubbish with fake tans and pushing prams, with anti social attitudes.

Now all anti-social teens have become classed as chavs.

yes, chavs did and still do wear hoodies - but other people wear them too. Not all hoodie wearing people are chavs - hoodies are damn fashionable now. And tracksuits could be worn to and from the gym - but it doesn't mean that you're a chav; that's why i'm saying that being a chav is really about the attitude not the clothes.

Especially if you look at the prices of clothes nowadays: just look at prices in Primark or Tk Maxx - you can get really cheap clothes that look no different from stuff that normal people would wear... hell, even i shop in there (that's mainly because student loans are for beer and fun things, not clothes ;))

You find that a lot of these chavs now wear designer clothing, whether it's fake or not (you normally can't tell if it really is) . So it doesnt matter the clothing nowadays - it's more about the attitude.
 

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TheBadass post=18.71454.769462 said:
ThePlasmatizer post=18.71454.769231 said:
Obviously you don't even live in Britain.

I generally don't like to label groups of people but you can pretty much tell a chav from the way they look, it's a uniform of anti-socialism and ignorance.
Or it's your misconception that's wrong, not his. Throwing way someones argument because their view isn't the same as your own, therefore it must be invalid is kinda faulty, dude.
To clear it up, I am from England. To be even more precise I'll let you know I'm from East Yorkshire. So yeah, there. Would have found that out with one simple click to my profile to double check before posting :p

Sorry Plasmatizer, but thinking that every single person you see wearing a track-suit/hoodie and that lives on a council estate is instantly an anti social trouble maker is just complete BS, total ignorance I'm afraid.

Is it just easier to know who's a bad guy and who's a good guy because of what they're dressed like? It's not Saturday morning TV time any more.
 

Blayze

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South Yorkshire here. I once had the joy of walking down a street in the dead of night, trapped between two chavs engaged in a screaming match. His cries of "*****!" perfectly complimented her cries of "DICKHEAD!"

The amusing thing was that they kept screaming at each other until they were practically face-to-face, whereupon their conversation suddenly flipped to normal decibel levels.
 

Jamash

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Sportswear, check.
Jewellery, check.
Gold Chains, check.
Smoking in public. check
Strange, nasally voice. check.

Holy shit, I've just worked out where the first Chav came from.

In attempting to do a sponsored teleport for charity, did Jimmy Savile do a Jeff Goldblum & step into the transmission module with some shit on his shoes?
 

Serious_Stalin

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The thing I despise most about England is the amount of trouble making drunks, I like to throw my predudice at skinheads rather than kids in hoods. Kids in hoods never bothered me skinheads did.
 

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I'm usually one to denounce stereotyping under most circumstances, but personal experience has allowed me to conclude that the Chav stereotype (where I live at least) is pretty much spot on for most people that wear the synonymous sickening amounts of Burberry and more fake gold jewellery than Del Boy and B.A. Baracus combined.

My occasional witnessing of fights seems to always have at least one of the knuckle dragging neanderthals taking part, I have attempted to hold a conversation with a few of them out of curtsey or necessity but I'm afraid I cannot communicate in grunts and by hitting objects against my face as they so eloquently can, and yes our country does seem to be infested with these mooching worthless parasites.

/rant

Hopefully most of this country's youth will grow out of their current lifestyles soon.