The lawsuit was against the school for removing her from the cheerleading squad, not against the kid. She lost the lawsuit in two separate courts and has to pay a fine as a resultAku_San said:
Cheerleader must compensate school that told her to clap 'rapist'
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Sometimes I wish Texas really would just secede from the rest of the country, as the 'states rights' loonies always wanted to.
It's like a great, big, bad press generator run by hicks and border-line retarded conservatives. It's like a mosquito breeding pool.
I know - that's a horrible generalization fueled in part for my disgust of the region's legal system (not all Texas is bad, I know), but when was the last time we got good news from Texas that didn't make America look a little less brain-dead?
It's like a great, big, bad press generator run by hicks and border-line retarded conservatives. It's like a mosquito breeding pool.
I know - that's a horrible generalization fueled in part for my disgust of the region's legal system (not all Texas is bad, I know), but when was the last time we got good news from Texas that didn't make America look a little less brain-dead?
Rape is the worst double standard in our country. People are ready to believe any girl who claims that she was raped, but refuse to believe that a man can be raped by a woman. If two underage kids have sex the boy goes away for statutory rape, but the girl does not. If both people are drunk the guy is a rapist the girl is not.Abandon4093 said:
I can't really think over the roaring sound of fuck filling my head right now. It's one thing to not grant her compensation, I can agree with that. If you don't want to cheer, you can be kicked of the squad, but the fact that "justice" is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked up in this country that a judge can make her pay the school is absolutely infuriating. I kinda want to punch someone in the face right now. Over and over. Until they are dead.slowpoke999 said:
I've never really been known for my tact or subtle wording when I have to describe tactless activities.Hive Mind said:
The second point I pulled out google for, as I didn't fully trust my memory.
The result: yes and no.
I'm relatively unknown with the details of Texan law, but the traditional definition of rape does entail penetration - not necessarily vaginal. Anything short of actual penetration falls under sexual assault.
However, many jurisdictions are not using the word rape at all, and have lumped it all under sexual assault (of varying degrees).
But to rehash what I said earlier: he was apparently interrupted halfway his assault, and by lack of mention of DNA test results we do not know whether he actually penetrated her, or engaged in any other sexual act with her.
Assault: absolutely, and convicted. Sexual assault: extremely likely, but for some reason uncharged. Rape: unknown.
Is it any consolation for the victim if he didn't get around to sticking his dick into her? Hopefully, but that's like debating whether a mass murderer is a nicer person than one guilty of genocide.
EDIT: but all this is slightly beside my point. My personal problem wasn't whether he should've been convicted for rape or not, my problem was that a convicted offender was allowed to continue to enjoy celebrity status, and that negligible care was offered to the victim by the school.
That, and I'm rather curious why they failed to pin sexual assault on him, as he actually undressed both himself and his victim.
If you sue someone you are forcing them to spend money on court fee's and lawyers, once your lawsuit has been deemed to have absolutely nothing to stand on it's only fair that you should have to pay back the people you are suing to make up for the money they spent defending themselves against your frivolous lawsuitspartan231490 said:
...I don't want to share a continent with you Yanks anymore... nothing personal, I'm just really hating the legal system you have right now... I don't want to risk it spreading. Damn your strong cultural influence on us!... Come to think of it this is probably going to become or already has become a "America sucks" thread.
*Looks up main languages of Sweden on Wikipedia*
...English is commonly spoken?...huh....
Basically, this is so, so horrible that I don't even want to comprehend what was going through peoples minds when they thought it was a good idea to sue her.
I mean, even if the guy wasn't a Rapist, you still don't sue a freaking teenager for $45,000 for not wanting to cheer!
*Looks up main languages of Sweden on Wikipedia*
...English is commonly spoken?...huh....
Basically, this is so, so horrible that I don't even want to comprehend what was going through peoples minds when they thought it was a good idea to sue her.
I mean, even if the guy wasn't a Rapist, you still don't sue a freaking teenager for $45,000 for not wanting to cheer!
I mean why did she keep appealing if she knew she was going to lose? The fees are kinda her own fault, but her coach should have been understanding and let her just sit their quietly.
well when a majority of students wont make it past high school...callmegreen said:
jk, sorta. This is incredibly offensive and seriously wrong, it is a high school event, and I don't think she should have even taken legal action in the first place, even though the school was wrong. On one hand I totally agree this is awful, but on the other, dont sue unless you're ready to lose at some point.
I love this kind of soapbox stuff. Everyone wants to defend the girl who was assaulted (which no one can deny is horrible), but no one seems to understand the law. You have to cheer what they tell you to if you want to be a cheerleader. Period. You can't join the choir and sing a different song than everyone else, or join the drama club and just stand on stage refusing to act. There are plenty of situations where a person gives up their 1st amendment right, and this is one of them. It's not tragic, it's just the way it is.
Think of it this way; where would it end? Could a cheerleader refuse to cheer for an athlete if he dumped her, or if he owed her money? The assault sucks, no one denies that, but the guy got punished, and the cheering is unrelated.
Simply put, if she didn't want to do the duty of a cheerleader, she couldn't be on the team. Refusing to accept that, she filed a frivolous lawsuit. Losing that suit, she had to pay the school's legal fees. There's really nothing shocking or anger-inducing about this story.
Think of it this way; where would it end? Could a cheerleader refuse to cheer for an athlete if he dumped her, or if he owed her money? The assault sucks, no one denies that, but the guy got punished, and the cheering is unrelated.
Simply put, if she didn't want to do the duty of a cheerleader, she couldn't be on the team. Refusing to accept that, she filed a frivolous lawsuit. Losing that suit, she had to pay the school's legal fees. There's really nothing shocking or anger-inducing about this story.
No, no I understand that. It's just that she could very well take it to supreme court and make have the kid pay for damages.artanis_neravar said:
Yeah, she might still have to pay the fee. Maybe not. It's still possible to get the decision (to pay the fee) overturned through the supreme court (they didn't list whether it was a civil court or not. Maybe I missed that part? I'm just assuming that this is through a federal court.) I just want to see that damn kid pay for what he did. Literally so. Sure, the school was within their right to remove her from the squad, still, it's horrible to see this sort of injustice.
Yeah, the real decision made by the court in the actual case, while fucked up, is not as fucked up when you read the story. She was raped by the basketball player and apparently he only got probation. That's the messed up part of the story right there. However, we must remember that this guy is also in high school (and probably a minor when the incident happened - pretty sure he'd have to be to still be on the basketball team a year later or whatever) and he plead guilty. The other messed up part of the story is that they let him back on the basketball team, but again, that's within the rights of the school to do. Here's where parents and students could have pulled together and publicly complained / boycotted the games. This probably would have put a stop to it, but they didn't. Yet the woman in question still wants to be a cheerleader, knowing full well that guy would be playing. And while being a cheerleader refuses to cheer, so she gets kicked off the team, probably not a bad decision by the principal to avoid public conflict.
And when she makes a case out of it and loses for obvious reasons, we should be shocked that she's responsible for the legal fees? It's not the court's job to make us feel better about ourselves, it's to interpret the law. And there's no law that says anyone has the right to be a cheerleader, or to be a cheerleader who doesn't cheer. Sad, but true. On the plus side, has anyone seen the Penn and Teller BS about cheerleading? This girl might have gotten kicked off the squad the day before she fell, broke her neck, and got paralyzed.
At the end of the day, she's the one who sued the school with the pointless lawsuit. The school didn't sue her, and neither did the rapist, who by the way, has his name plastered all over the internet indicating him as such.
And when she makes a case out of it and loses for obvious reasons, we should be shocked that she's responsible for the legal fees? It's not the court's job to make us feel better about ourselves, it's to interpret the law. And there's no law that says anyone has the right to be a cheerleader, or to be a cheerleader who doesn't cheer. Sad, but true. On the plus side, has anyone seen the Penn and Teller BS about cheerleading? This girl might have gotten kicked off the squad the day before she fell, broke her neck, and got paralyzed.
At the end of the day, she's the one who sued the school with the pointless lawsuit. The school didn't sue her, and neither did the rapist, who by the way, has his name plastered all over the internet indicating him as such.
Wrong, as a cheerleader you are obligated to cheer for anyone no matter your personal feelings and if you aren't willing to do that then don't be on the team.scumofsociety said:
The kid was found guilty of sexual assault in a federal court, and is facing the penalty for that. there was not enough evidence so he was no convicted of rape. The girl brought the school to civil court for kicking her off the team and lost, that's why she has to pay. (not trying to be condescending just relaying the facts)Aku_San said: