Child Porn Charges for comedian; edited video makes it appear children were listening to dirty song

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tmnnerd

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dogstile said:
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the other night i was doing a show where i made a joke about american attitudes to mexicans when someone called me racist. i countered it by saying "to be honest i was going for cutting cultural satire" which got a laugh but it became a bit of a struggle to get some people back on side
I have serious doubts that people in a comedy club actually give a damn about racism. It seems to be a mainstay in comedy lately.
sadly this is, in some respects, very true. although having said that the divide between stereotyping of a nation (ie. all scots are tight fisted sheep fiddlers) and racial abuse seems to have blurred severely in the minds of many people to the extent that even mentioning another racial or cultural group can cause buttock clenching and gasped intakes of breath. hence why earnestly thought out satire is considered as bad as posting a dog turd through a muslim family's letterbox.

but to get back on topic i would say the same thing is happening to paedophilia in that people now see no difference between actually physically or mentally harming a child and editing a video so it looks like you slung a few bad words at them. i first heard the word "fuck" when i was four. do i feel abused? no. perhaps if those who violently jerk their knee when anything slightly bad happens within a mile of a child truly cared for the welfare of children they should stop buying trainers stitched in sweat shops by orphans. but no, that can go hang as long as tabatha and timothy have nice new shoes.
 

Teixas

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is this a joke....

i sure hope so since its bloody ridiculous...

there are sooo much worse things to look out for than a prank video..
 

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Droppa Deuce said:
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I'm sure the perp is guilty of something.

Some time in the slammer will do him good.

P.S. Superimposing, altering, photoshopping, editing videos and images can still constitute as an obscenity.

Maybe he should have done his homework before wasting his time on his little project.
And you might want to do your homework and read some of the posts and examples above to show how wrong you are in your assumptions.
Huh?

Anyway, it's like people who make Pedobear gifs of the little bear attacking kids or that girl from Lazytown etc. We know the kids are safe and the cartoon bear is superimposed and not real, but the message is clear. "Paedophilia is funny,". Well, it isn't.

I'll look into this guy's case in more detail soon, but I think the courts are sending a clear message.

Like I said, a little jail time might give him a bit of time to think of some new, funnier sketches. It'll do him good.
This is not a matter of child protection, this is a matter of civil liberties. This could ruin a man's life FOREVER for being risque with his humor on the internet. Heaven forbid. No matter how tasteless a joke, civil liberties and freedom of speech must be respected.

And even if he gets out with no more than a fine, a fine on pedo charges does, in fact, ruin a life forever. He'd get blacklisted, and become infamous as a child molester wherever he lives, despite the truth that the worst he's done is put up a stupid youtube video.

You say, jail time might give him time to think. It's not a fucking second-grade time out, it's JAIL.

And anything could be funny depending on context. Watch the episode of South Park entitled "Cartman Joins NAMBLA" and then tell me what you think. Child molestation has been on the comedic chopping block for a while.
 

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Droppa Deuce said:
Huh?

Anyway, it's like people who make Pedobear gifs of the little bear attacking kids or that girl from Lazytown etc. We know the kids are safe and the cartoon bear is superimposed and not real, but the message is clear. "Paedophilia is funny,". Well, it isn't.

I'll look into this guy's case in more detail soon, but I think the courts are sending a clear message.

Like I said, a little jail time might give him a bit of time to think of some new, funnier sketches. It'll do him good.
Losing his job and making him unemployable, that'll do him some good too.

Urgh this case is just so fucking ridiculous I'm shouting at my screen while I read about it. Tell me in what remotely obscure way is an edited video going to harm children, and how the hell is it child porn.
Sorry I just can't comprehend how people are demonizing this guy so much over something he didn't freaking do, and It's becoming increasingly harder not to type in caps >.>
 

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Now wait a second. Is this story real or am I falling victim to Poe's Law?
I've done a quick google search and haven't found anything even close to what the OP is saying. I can't find the new story anywhere. *shrug* Doesn't mean it isn't true, just that i can't find it. BUT, the lack ofa name, or a news link...

I'm not convinced this accually happened. I'd like a link to repuable news source or a name so i can google it before i'll by into this debate.

I'd like to note that i'm a work and currently they block steaming video. SO, if the OP has a video link to a news site, i can't see it. But, i still find it odd noones brought up this guys name...(Did i miss it? what is it if i did?)
 

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That's the thing, the children weren't real.

He took a video clip from something else entirely and edited it in.

Basically, he made a song, and mixed it with a video of children watching something.

And he's facing 20 to 25 years in prison.
 

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Unfortunately children are exposed to sex almost everyday, its the job as parents to limit the amounts at young ages until they are mature enough to understand it, but sometimes theres just no way around it, like on sundays when you're watching football (with say, your son) they have ED treatment commercials on. Sure you should give this kid a slap on the wrist, but pressing charges on him?!? o_O Give me a break. The kids didnt even see the video, nor did they ever hear that song. Why dont the liberal douche bags just take away all our rights, right now, instead of doing it gradually? This is just like when Tipper Gore tried to ban rock music in the 80s.
 

Lenny Magic

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As stupid as these charges are, I have to say the idea is pretty tasteless. I don't have children, but if I did I would be pretty pissed off to find an image of my child had been used in such a way, even if I knew it was fake.

Mind you I haven't seen the video in question, so for all I know it might be equal to killing joke from Monty python :/
 

KeyMaster45

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This is ridiculous, I have half a mind to rip the video from youtube and do something similar. Hell, why aren't we doing that? Inundate the web with it as protest for how bullshit this whole scenario is.

At worst this guy is guilty of using people's likeness without their permission. (or some legal TV BS to that effect)
 

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Kingsnake661 said:
SaunaKalja said:
Now wait a second. Is this story real or am I falling victim to Poe's Law?
I've done a quick google search and haven't found anything even close to what the OP is saying. I can't find the new story anywhere. *shrug* Doesn't mean it isn't true, just that i can't find it. BUT, the lack ofa name, or a news link...

I'm not convinced this accually happened. I'd like a link to repuable news source or a name so i can google it before i'll by into this debate.

I'd like to note that i'm a work and currently they block steaming video. SO, if the OP has a video link to a news site, i can't see it. But, i still find it odd noones brought up this guys name...(Did i miss it? what is it if i did?)
Evan Emory in google, then advanced search and last year sites.

http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2011/02/evan_emory_arrested_and_charge.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358142/You-tube-prankster-Evan-Emory-faces-20-years-jail-manufacturing-child-porn.html

http://www.newser.com/story/112320/evan-emory-charged-with-felony-sex-abuse-for-youtube-prank-over-raunchy-song.html
 

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ImprovizoR said:
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What the hell is wrong with Americans? You're so obsessed with pedophilia and child porn you see it everywhere! Present company excluded of course. Geeks seem to be the only sane people in America left.
Ahem...
-Canada considers purely written material child porn
-A lot of Western Europe have laws criminalizing cartoon porn
-Simpons porn is considered child porn in Australia

Stupid laws aren't reserved to one nation, my friend.
You're right. But America has the controlling share of stupid people.
Guy, I live in England, last week some little toerag smacked a girl with a brick and scared her for life and got fined £200. Thats all. His debt to sociaty is considered payed.

Dont you just love the fact that even injustice has two extremes on the spectrum.
 

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The sad part is we now know that you can also go to jail for singing "dirty" lyrics in front of children. The scary part is that you can go to jail for not doing it, too.

This isn't another form of the "cartoon porn should be illegal" argument, since even if he did that IN REAL LIFE it wouldn't be porn.
 

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Droppa Deuce said:
Nurb said:
Droppa Deuce said:
I'm sure the perp is guilty of something.

Some time in the slammer will do him good.

P.S. Superimposing, altering, photoshopping, editing videos and images can still constitute as an obscenity.

Maybe he should have done his homework before wasting his time on his little project.
And you might want to do your homework and read some of the posts and examples above to show how wrong you are in your assumptions.
Huh?

Anyway, it's like people who make Pedobear gifs of the little bear attacking kids or that girl from Lazytown etc. We know the kids are safe and the cartoon bear is superimposed and not real, but the message is clear. "Paedophilia is funny,". Well, it isn't.

I'll look into this guy's case in more detail soon, but I think the courts are sending a clear message.

Like I said, a little jail time might give him a bit of time to think of some new, funnier sketches. It'll do him good.
For future reference, people, don't feed the troll.
 

Unesh52

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I'm gonna put together all the video examples on this thread so far right here in one place, plus add a few of my own:

This is a link [http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?title=tyrone-biggums-classroom-visit&videoId=24405] to the Chapelle Show skit with Tyrone Biggums visits a class room for drug awareness week and, besides insinuating he himself is a convicted pedophile and telling a story about sucking a guy off for cash, outright advocates doing drugs. He even has the kids actually sniff markers in the sketch.

This one [http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/834e452cf0/chappelle-show-kneehigh-park-from-thaffner], also from the Chapelle Show, features lots of swearing, sexual slang, advocation of drugs, and most importantly, auto-fellatio and an anatomically correct puppet with his dick out.

TheGuiggleMonster said:
embedded:

Nurb said:

This one even features an actual child pretending to take a naked picture of himself.

Scizophrenic Llama said:
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tmnnerd said:
one question no one seems to be asking here is did he get the permission of the parents to use the footage from the first video (which he would have needed their permission to record) in the second video?
This is a valid point; he did lie to the school to get this footage. However, even his defense is saying things like, "it was just an error of judgment," and "it was just a mistake," as if the prosecution was correct in calling the video child abuse material. But what all these videos show is that there is every precedent to say that these types of jokes are legal -- even popular. He literally had no reason to think that this would be considered child sexual abuse material. Furthermore, if it were abuse, the parent's consent would be irrelevant, and all of these videos would still be illegal.

If they want to throw the book at him because he lied about his intent, that's fine, but charging him as a felon and labeling him as a sex offender is unprecedented, unhelpful, and heinously unjust.
 

Kingsnake661

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Found it. Dudes name is Evan Daniel Emory.

Ok, not for my opinon. (for what it's worth.)

The dude, did, IMO, commit a crime. Child Porn? God no. But, he did lie to the school board, take video of minors and post it on the internet without concent, along with dubbing in the volger track. This,IMO, shouldn't have the protection of "free speach" as it was produced without concent and under false pretences. And he should be punished for it, but, 20 year in jail, 25 years as a sex offender? That's insane. He didn't abuse anyone.

I'm thinking a hefty fine, and being open to litigation, (the parents sueing him) is about the extent of what he should face. *shrug* That's my 2 cents.
 

Hashime

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Ia the guy an idiot? Yes, yes he is.
Did he create child porn? Absolutely Not.
Facts:
1. He sang clean song to the children, something they probably enjoyed
2. The children never heard the song, they were never exposed to explicit material.
3. The children will not hear the song until they are 18 or older unless they bypass the mature content filter.
4. This is tame compared to many broadcast sketches
5. THE CHILDREN WERE NEVER EXPOSED TO EXPLICIT MATERIAL
6. This does not even fall under the realm of the "Cartoon Porn" as there are no sexual images
7. A kid could hear or see much worse spending 5 minutes on the internet
8. The children were never exposed to explicit material

My Opinion: He is in no way a sex offender. He did however put images of people on the internet without their permission.

What should happen: Civil Suit about the image thing, nothing more.

What will happen: He will probably be offered a deal for lesser charges, take it, and still be considered a sex offender for making a youtube video.