Child Safety Bill Could Cripple Anime Industry

[BrunDeign]

All I'm getting from this article is that you guys think that sex is the most important thing to anime and manga.

Don't get me wrong I don't want the bill to pass either but it wouldn't "gut" the anime and manga industry if the sex was removed.

 

[TheRealCJ]

Wow, I'm seeing a lot of ignorant outrage over this.

"OH NOES, NOW how will I get my fix of ultraviolent Manga and weird fetish Anime?! Nanny state think of the childrens personal freedoms rargh"

You don't like how the government is running things? Protest!Oh wait, you probably don't live in japan and so protesting their government to change a law is both stupid and pointless.

Actually it's more you that's the ignorant one here, since again this is outlawing the depiction of illegal things in series that are NOT LABELED ADULT ONLY. In effect this means that every series is either Pokemon, Black Lagoon, or outright porn. The series that will be hit the hardest are shows like Dragonball, not fetish shows or gorefests.

So? Okay, so maybe the Japanese government is being a BIT overzealous, but are the reactions from most of the posts here any less ridiculous?

Everyone here has either been fairly reasonable on one side or the other or OH GOD YES FINALLY SOMEONE STOPS THE ABUSE OF CARTOON CHILDREN. And furthermore it's not really the government at large. It's the crazy governor of Tokyo (who, as I mentioned earlier, also says post menopausal women are sinful wastes of resources, denies the Rape of the Nanking, and wants to conquer Korea), who has been dismissed and denounced by tons of sources both in the private sector and political sphere.

So yes. This thread is considerably less ridiculous for the most part.

Really? Honestly, I agree that Tokyo has gone slightly too far in regards to the censorship of it's media with this law, but allow me to quote the very first reply to this article:

Fuck child safety. The last thing this world should be concerned with is the safety of its children. Especially in regards towards what they see in the media. That's the parents problem.

That sounds like a well thought-out argument if I ever heard one.

Again, mostly sane. Nobody ever seems to bother to actually read the damn information.

I would like to reemphasize the world "MOSTLY."

No, they just read the article, make a knee jerk assumption, and write a stupid reply. How is ANYONE going to take us seriously if this is how we react to the slightest imposition or perceived threat to our culture? We'll end up as just another PETA. Look at what happens whenever Australia is brought up. At least the first two posts are going to be something along the lines of "RARGH AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT R18+ CENSORSHIP MICHAEL ATKINSON BURN". Most of it coming from people who don't actually live here.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

All I'm getting from this article is that you guys think that sex is the most important thing to anime and manga.

Don't get me wrong I don't want the bill to pass either but it wouldn't "gut" the anime and manga industry if the sex was removed.

The problem comes from the fact that this bill would not only allow censorship of lolicon, but also of anything else deemed harmful to minors. Meaning that the weeaboos might not be able to get their Naruto fix because Tokyo thinks its bad for kids.

 

[Jim555]

Actually the one thing that bothers me most was that I read at ANN forum in regards to this situation, one guy said about this situation to everyone

Quoted from charizardpal from ANN

"I feel sorry for all the ignorant prunes reading this on the non-anime news sites, who smile and think to themselves that this is better for the children, who will be somehow injured by the prescence of Kanon (cousins in love), or Love Hina breif comedic nudity shots in the reading material of people nearly at the age of consent. Their moral fagotry is the reason Japanese comics became more dramatic and interesting to read than the Marvel comics of North America. And now they sit and cheer as creative thought is being crushed, and high school romance comics become increasingly restricted and devoid of all emotion. Those people make me sick...god help the Japanese children, let them not become as metally repressed as Westerners due to vague bills like this..."

 

[Something Amyss]

I fucking called it! If Americans hate anything more than socialism, it's children experiencing great stories if they so much as have any kind of flesh in them. They're breasts, not the damnation of your children's innocence.

You realize that Tokyo is not actually in the United States, yes?

When did this happen and why was I not informed?

 

[FredTheUndead]

Wow, I'm seeing a lot of ignorant outrage over this.

"OH NOES, NOW how will I get my fix of ultraviolent Manga and weird fetish Anime?! Nanny state think of the childrens personal freedoms rargh"

You don't like how the government is running things? Protest!Oh wait, you probably don't live in japan and so protesting their government to change a law is both stupid and pointless.

Actually it's more you that's the ignorant one here, since again this is outlawing the depiction of illegal things in series that are NOT LABELED ADULT ONLY. In effect this means that every series is either Pokemon, Black Lagoon, or outright porn. The series that will be hit the hardest are shows like Dragonball, not fetish shows or gorefests.

So? Okay, so maybe the Japanese government is being a BIT overzealous, but are the reactions from most of the posts here any less ridiculous?

Everyone here has either been fairly reasonable on one side or the other or OH GOD YES FINALLY SOMEONE STOPS THE ABUSE OF CARTOON CHILDREN. And furthermore it's not really the government at large. It's the crazy governor of Tokyo (who, as I mentioned earlier, also says post menopausal women are sinful wastes of resources, denies the Rape of the Nanking, and wants to conquer Korea), who has been dismissed and denounced by tons of sources both in the private sector and political sphere.

So yes. This thread is considerably less ridiculous for the most part.

Really? Honestly, I agree that Tokyo has gone slightly too far in regards to the censorship of it's media with this law, but allow me to quote the very first reply to this article:

Fuck child safety. The last thing this world should be concerned with is the safety of its children. Especially in regards towards what they see in the media. That's the parents problem.

That sounds like a well thought-out argument if I ever heard one.

Again, mostly sane. Nobody ever seems to bother to actually read the damn information.

I would like to reemphasize the world "MOSTLY."

No, they just read the article, make a knee jerk assumption, and write a stupid reply. How is ANYONE going to take us seriously if this is how we react to the slightest imposition or perceived threat to our culture? We'll end up as just another PETA. Look at what happens whenever Australia is brought up. At least the first two posts are going to be something along the lines of "RARGH AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT R18+ CENSORSHIP MICHAEL ATKINSON BURN". Most of it coming from people who don't actually live here.

So what you did 5 seconds ago when you claimed the only reason people would be against this is because they're mad about getting their fetish series and gorefests cut off. Unless you were being facetious, in which case consider my arguments withdrawn.

That said, even if you don't live in the country in question doesn't mean you can't have opinions about their policies and regulations.

Edit: Reading through, I'm also aware of the number of people who read the first post, quoted it, and said something along the lines of "I totally agree with this sentiment".

The reason for that? It gives people a reason to flip off the weeaboos. If anime and manga are getting their image changed, start by dumping those bastards.

If fandoms could jettison their worst members, things would be much better off. Sadly, just as all Warcraft fans will be portrayed as neckbeards living off mushrooms on the basement wall so they can spend more time grinding, as opposed to true gentlemen that just want to stomp the enemy with a horde of juggernauts and ogre magi on their time off, anime and manga fans will always be portrayed as fat kids in Naruto headbands and Inuyasha fangirls instead of people that just happen to enjoy reading Vinland Saga or watching Baccano.

 

[General Ken8]

There's no way this is going to last, I've heard so many people discussing how horrible this bill is that it doesn't really seem like it'll happen.
Also, I don't see why everyone's so stingy about censorship and whatnot, the fact that they censor all the bad stuff will just make children more inclined to go looking for it.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Actually the one thing that bothers me most was that I read at ANN forum in regards to this situation, one guy said about this situation to everyone

Quoted from charizardpal from ANN

"I feel sorry for all the ignorant prunes reading this on the non-anime news sites, who smile and think to themselves that this is better for the children, who will be somehow injured by the prescence of Kanon (cousins in love), or Love Hina breif comedic nudity shots in the reading material of people nearly at the age of consent. Their moral fagotry is the reason Japanese comics became more dramatic and interesting to read than the Marvel comics of North America. And now they sit and cheer as creative thought is being crushed, and high school romance comics become increasingly restricted and devoid of all emotion. Those people make me sick...god help the Japanese children, let them not become as metally repressed as Westerners due to vague bills like this..."

And it is fuckers like this with their blanket statements that make people hate anime. Considering it as a "higher art form" because of whatever goddamn reason, and acting like that somehow makes them superior.

This is the post (ANN guy not you) of a textbook weeaboo. Fuck him.

 

[Koroviev]

Well, as they say, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions .__.

 

[FredTheUndead]

Japan finally becomes a normal country. Congratulations.
I knew this forum had a large number of little comic incest and pedo loving dipshits, but I didn't know they will actually rear their ugly heads on jolly news like this.

Super cool story bro.

 

[BrunDeign]

All I'm getting from this article is that you guys think that sex is the most important thing to anime and manga.

Don't get me wrong I don't want the bill to pass either but it wouldn't "gut" the anime and manga industry if the sex was removed.

The problem comes from the fact that this bill would not only allow censorship of lolicon, but also of anything else deemed harmful to minors. Meaning that the weeaboos might not be able to get their Naruto fix because Tokyo thinks its bad for kids.

Anything harmful to minors? I must have missed that part...

But I don't think anyone who matters would miss the lolicon.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

All I'm getting from this article is that you guys think that sex is the most important thing to anime and manga.

Don't get me wrong I don't want the bill to pass either but it wouldn't "gut" the anime and manga industry if the sex was removed.

The problem comes from the fact that this bill would not only allow censorship of lolicon, but also of anything else deemed harmful to minors. Meaning that the weeaboos might not be able to get their Naruto fix because Tokyo thinks its bad for kids.

Anything harmful to minors? I must have missed that part...

But I don't think anyone who matters would miss the lolicon.

I suggest you don't start reading the other thread in the offtopic section then.

 

[Justanothergamer300]

We kids aren't innocent and pure to begin with

 

[FredTheUndead]

All I'm getting from this article is that you guys think that sex is the most important thing to anime and manga.

Don't get me wrong I don't want the bill to pass either but it wouldn't "gut" the anime and manga industry if the sex was removed.

The problem comes from the fact that this bill would not only allow censorship of lolicon, but also of anything else deemed harmful to minors. Meaning that the weeaboos might not be able to get their Naruto fix because Tokyo thinks its bad for kids.

Anything harmful to minors? I must have missed that part...

But I don't think anyone who matters would miss the lolicon.

For the umpteenth time: no form of porn is banned, whether it's about drawings of little girls or what. Anything labeled 18+ is off the table. Anything ELSE is being scanned for illegal content, which in this case means if a CHARACTER violates Japanese law (say, by owning a firearm) it can be banned.

 

[Freedomario]

this really sucks, even though i am not a "weeabo" my favorite TV series was anime, although canceled, i would like to see if they start to think with their brains and get it back up again.
[small]maybe they need to stop smoking... *crickets chirp*...[/small]

 

[Nocturnal Gentleman]

Actually the one thing that bothers me most was that I read at ANN forum in regards to this situation, one guy said about this situation to everyone

Quoted from charizardpal from ANN

"I feel sorry for all the ignorant prunes reading this on the non-anime news sites, who smile and think to themselves that this is better for the children, who will be somehow injured by the prescence of Kanon (cousins in love), or Love Hina breif comedic nudity shots in the reading material of people nearly at the age of consent. Their moral fagotry is the reason Japanese comics became more dramatic and interesting to read than the Marvel comics of North America. And now they sit and cheer as creative thought is being crushed, and high school romance comics become increasingly restricted and devoid of all emotion. Those people make me sick...god help the Japanese children, let them not become as metally repressed as Westerners due to vague bills like this..."

What a bunch of over dramatic whining. If westerners are so repressed how come these days I see western comics with far better characters and stories than manga I pick up? Sex and nudity does not automatically make something better. In fact needless fan service and nonsensical sex scenes make it worse. Besides you can still find western comics that are too mature for children. Exterminators, Priest, Sky Doll, The walking dead and so on.

Anyway, back to the article I find it ridiculous to go up in arms about this. If the vague writing is extremely harmful I'm pretty sure they'll go back and fix it.

Personally I agree with a previous poster that some of that porn does need some kind of restriction, because some of it is awful to even look at much less think about. Plus, if it's that out in the open it's hard for parents to block that questionable mess.

I think the bill might make some creative results in an attempt to bypass it which I can't wait to see.

 

[Sarah Kerrigan]

WTFIDONTEVEN-

I FUCKIN LIVE ON ANIME!!! THEY CAN'T TAKE IT AWAY!!

 

[Azaraxzealot]

well good, maybe this will force anime and manga to grow the fuck up and stop objectifying women

and their games as well

EDIT: Ive seen a HELL of a lot of anime, and 90% of it is a bunch of "ecchi fanservice"
this bill should force those anime/manga writers to start writing stories that DONT include random bits of T&A, which will force them to be more creative

 

[Canadamus Prime]

While I do support child safety and whatever, I think child safety should be the responsibility of the parent, not any goddamned government. Also this is fucking retarded. I can't believe Japan would even consider censoring one of their biggest industries.