China riots, island tensions and the UN -updated

[Gatx]

A final thought. Is China the villian in this event, in regards to the islands? China made offer to share the islands with Japan, to help end the dispute. Japan refused. I think China's approach here, is not a good example of what can be considered a "big bad"

I dunno, from what I've read here it seems like China wasn't really in the position to make that offer.


Captcha: laser beams (hell yeah, I'd take this over random hard to read letters or advertisements any day)

 

[direkiller]

"heroes" who blitzed London.

[edit: typo]

except they do have memorials to fallen solders of WWII,WWI including that of the Battle over Brittan.
http://www.thirdreichruins.com/memorials.htm


as for this whole thing it's not any diffident then the Falklands(Cultural pretext used for a resource grab). use whatever excuse you want but ima gona call a spade a spade.

 

[ElPatron]

Tell that to the Tibetans who they invaded in 1956, the Indians who they attacked in 1962, the Russians who they attacked in 1969 and the Vietnamese who they attacked in 1979.

to the Chinese Tibet is part of China. it only existed as an independent state for 30 years of its entire history. "old maps" as i said before.

So let's wreck havoc in Kosovo. Again.

A country's culture should not dictate their international relationships. Whatever their beliefs on China as a territory are, they is worth exactly "jack-shit" outside their borders.

EDIT: By the way, my country owned a territory bigger than Europe. I don't think we need it back just because we owned it for several centuries.

Many people in the UK think it is bat-sh*t crazy, that people in America can walk the streets with guns

You can't walk in the streets with guns unless you are in a state that allows open or concealed carry. Plus, you have to respect that state's laws concerning training and licensing. Concealed carry is correlated to the drops in violent crimes on the street.

That issue is specifically about blind knee-jerk reactions, not "ignorance" of different cultures. People in the UK got what they asked for even though it had nearly no effect on the already low gun crime.

Imagine if Germany had shrines to the "heroes" who helped exterminate the millions of Jews in the extermination camps and to the "heroes" who blitzed London... maybe now you have a small insight as to how delicate things are over here.

And that would be okay, if it wasn't for Germany's political correctness when it comes to Nazism. People are too easily offended, a shrine to the SS would be the ultimate lulz generator.

Plus, the people fighting in the front lines are not at fault for what Nazism did. They died in battle and they deserve no disrespect just because of the flag they were fighting for.

 

[EquestrianGeneral]

And here I was hoping that this was going to be about the Chinese citizens taking a stand and rioting because they wanted more freedom of speech, or more freedom in general.

But no, it's about islands.

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[Entitled]

In the next half century China' military capabilities will likely equal or surpass the US. This, coupled with resource diminuation (we're expected to reach peak oil in a couple of years) will make war worthwhile for the side who wins (and given the proximity of China to the islands, the strenght of China's manufacturing sector, and the overall global weakening of America's position in the world, means China has a good chance to win).

You can't win a war where both sides have nukes.

China can't do shit with it's large army, if they got to war, we all die. You, and you, and you, and you, and me. And them, too.

 

[Murderiser]

to the Chinese Tibet is part of China. it only existed as an independent state for 30 years of its entire history. "old maps" as i said before.

Are you serious? If you knew anything about the history of China you'd know that Tibet has existed as an independent entity (up until recently) for over 1000 years. Hell, at one point they controlled more territory than the Chinese did! It is indisputable that the People's Republic of China unilaterally and illegally annexed Tibet in the 1950s. Their only justification for controlling the region is that Qing China controlled it...which is true in that they also annexed the region with no excuse beyond imperialism.

Additionally the Chinese are essentially committing what has been described as 'cultural genocide' against the Tibetans. Having extensively studied modern China, I can categorically state that the Chinese government would like nothing more than for Tibet to contain no Tibetans. The only reason why they don't deport the lot of them is becuase of the international outcry it would create.

Also, the Chinese government are currently pursuing a policy of colonialism towards the Uighurs in Xinjiang province, by blatantly favouring Han Chinese over the native Muslim Turkic populace.

China is an Imperialist nation. Non-imperialist countries don't take extensive efforts to colonise regions or exterminate races.

 

[Yureina]

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I'll be looking forward to that. Please do take the opportunity to squash the lie that is "China is not an imperialist state" in this thread. I'd do it myself (and I too focused on East Asia when I was getting my degree), but i'd rather have a calm and relaxing evening. Talking about China, and my belief that they will be the 21st Century's version of Nazi Germany (yes, i'm dead serious) has a tendency to make my blood boil. And I don't need that tonight.

 

[neverarine]

Cmon 'merica time to join the fun all these other places are rioting why not join them now that it seems popular /sarcasm

but realy did everyone just get stupider suddenly?

 

[DudeistBelieve]

China won't go to war over this. they will throw a tantrum. They will rattle the saber. And then they will shut up. Because going to war means fucking up their economy and relations.

That's assuming logic prevails.

 

[dumbseizure]

The only thing I am seeing from those photos in the first OP link is that they are only hurting other Chinese people, rather than hurting the Japanese.

I mean really, smashing Japanese brand cars? Even if the owner is Chinese?

Way to screw yourselves over China...

 

[JaceArveduin]

Wait a minute... What the hell does looting a Rolex store have to do with hating japan?

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

I wonder if this will prompt the Chinese military to take back the land or if China will just be sit back in their country and just yell how much they disagree with Japan. Personally if China really cares, I think they should follow South Korea's example and station a post their.

 

[Konaerix]

Must be hard on China, crying like a little ***** over a perfectly legal island deal that they never really had any claim to anyway.
Maybe if you throw a big enough tantrum, the rest of the the international community will magically come to your aid against mean old man japan and his cool shiny toys that are fun to rip off!

Seriously, Chinas already fucked up enough without the violent racist sentiment and insane government controlling every aspect of their peoples lives. I'm really gland they didn't get something that they can't plagiarize of once!