Chinese girl crushed, 18 people don't care

[Nouw]

I refuse to judge anyone who does this until I have personally saved a life by helping someone injured in the street.

I just don't believe that there happened to be 18 unusually selfish, ignorant people there at that moment.

I agree with this. I like to think that I'm a caring, unselfish person, but I've never been in this situation. Just as I would like to think that I wouldn't puss out if I was fighting on the beaches of Normandy in World War II, I still have to wonder if I would try to run out of cowardice (though maybe that's not the best example, as there was really nowhere to run in that case...but you get my point).

If I failed to help her, it wouldn't be because of selfishness or lack of care, but because of cowardice and/or simple fear of very serious repercussions.

I also agree. I mean I'd think I'd help her but who knows? I might do nothing out of shock and fall to the ground. And it depends on which beach of Normandy .

 

[Andothul]

Fun fact, in China, if you help a person in an accident, you become responsible for their well being and medical expenses.

Also, if that person dies, you can be sued.

Fun fact: it's almost exactly the same in most of America. You won't be required to pay their medical expenses, but you essentially take on the burden of their wellbeing, and if they are injured or die you may be sued.

It's that way in a lot of places, so, again, stop blaming China.


EDIT: This response was wrong and a knee-jerk reaction to others' blaming China. The poster wasn't blaming China, but merely pointing out a reason why many might not want to help.

This is actually wrong, there are good Samaritan laws in most states that prevent that.

 

[ScreamingNinja]

Man, these people here. Seriously? You watch this and don't actually care at all? I watch this and feel saddend by it. Do I burst into tears? No. I think what happened in this case is disgusting, and I also think that everyone who's all 'LOL WE DNT CARE CUZ LIEK WE HAVE NO SOCIAL SKILLZ/LIFE' Should seriously go an An Hero.

Because really. That other video of the white kid getting beaten on is disgusting too. The fact that there're people in this world who'll go out and wail on kids just because is disgusting. The fact that the two year old girl got hit but a car is disgusting. And then no one (Apart from one person, I think?) Did anything about it is disgusting. It doesn't matter if there's a 'bystander' effect. Be your own man, look after other people. It's not hard to do.

Also, the closet I've been to this sort of situation is seeing people get into fights, five to one, and I called the cops even though I had two other people from that group yelling and screaming at my face and trying to have a go at me.

I can promise you though, if someone was laying on the ground injured I'd ask them what was wrong and try to help them. Because that's what a Man does.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Humanity has sank to a new low.

Though I can understand(sort of) why those individuals ignored her, out of fear of being blamed or fear of being setup somehow. Still... that's real cold.

I think this explains what happened Sad but not a new low for humanity.

That just looks like a drunk person. I can understand why they walked past.

In this case, there is A GIRL LYING BLOODY ON THE ROAD. AND PEOPLE WALKED OVER HER. There's no doubt that she's in pain, and it's not a big crowd. There is no reason that this should've happened.

this is a very good point.

drunk white passed out dude = normal day is normal

bloody as fuck tiny chinese girl = what the..i don't even, CALL THE AMBULANCE IMMEDIATELY!

honestly that fucking bus driver better get his shit owned, that is absolutely unacceptable.

 

[Orks da best]

is this the 3rd or 4th, i forget, still bad yes yes, but when said a lot, its loses its point...

 

[Diminished Capacity]

I've also heard it called diffusion of responsibility. My apologies if anyone has already said this.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

*Looks at the thread title*
I've said it once, and I'll say it again:

THIS IS CHINA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT!

The attitude towards human morality there is lower then you can ever imagine. The majority of people there just don't give a damn about others and the small percent that do are to afraid of the government to take any kind of action.
Stuff like this has happens quite often there, and although it is fucking terrible, its just going to continue.

Its not a matter of Human morality in China, this shit happens everywhere and its not just exclusive to China.

I've already had to mention the Genovese case and how it coined the term bystander effect 3 times this week because of this single event and honestly its getting rather annoying.

You can't even say that we got better with time either. Last year in New York, a man by the name of Alfredo Yale-Tax got stabbed while trying to save a woman from a robber. He was laying there in the streets in front of a security camera and at least 25 people walked right by him, not even bothering to call the cops. Hell, one of them even took out his phone and took pictures of him. It took an hour for Fire fighters to even arrive to the scene and by then, he was dead.

 

[Delsana]

When you use the bystander effect as a way to justify your actions rather than a way to change them, you are becoming the problem.

There is no excuse, just like ignorance isn't an excuse when people die, nor is an "accident".

I would have at least called someone, you can't say you'd do less without painting yourself as sadistic and horrid.

 

[DJDarque]

When you use the bystander effect as a way to justify your actions rather than a way to change them, you are becoming the problem.

There is no excuse, just like ignorance isn't an excuse when people die, nor is an "accident".

I would have at least called someone, you can't say you'd do less without painting yourself as sadistic and horrid.

This. Over and over this.

Watching that video made me feel ill, and watching the lack of reaction from passersby made it worse. All the comments declaring the bystander effect to excuse their inaction is downright deplorable.

Whatever. Stay classy.

 

[ScreamingNinja]

Yeah, not really compelled to care. Lame way to go for the kid, but perhaps were not loosing the cure for cancer if she was unable to get out of the way of a slow moving vehicle on a uncrowded side street.

Can we stop with trying to guilt people into being touchy feely hippies? The "love everyone and everything everywhere" thing is not only getting quite old its always been pretty damned impractical.

A post after my own heart. If she could not get out of the way of a slow moving truck and had ample room to do so then...I'm not going to say I am happy to see people die but I'm not overly sad in this case.

And on hippies, I go to university and am surrounded by them. Their constant bleating got old really fast.

I know, all those silly people caring about when other people get hit by cars and die! I mean, she's a little girl! She had at least a few seconds to get out of the way! It's not like most people's minds automatically seize up when they are staring death in the face, watching it barreling toward them at high speed and realizing that they have but a few seconds before they will be killed if they don't get out of the way. Nope, that doesn't happen at all.

Geez, people just care way too much these days. I live in the US, where people don't care enough for their fellow human beings to pay 1% more on their taxes so there aren't over 200,000 children (and several million people) who die every year because they lack healthcare. And, frankly, that's just not enough lack of caring for me. Frankly, we need to care even less.

So I must admit that I long for the day when we will all start caring just a little bit less about each other.

[/sarcasm]

You do not endear yourself with your sarcasm.

Too many people I know in person are poor and sick. One of my family friends just died. I am not going to shed tears from someone I did not know like an overemotional fop. It does not make me happy this girl died, but I am not going to fake sadness.

Hey, guess what? No one cares about your problems. This thread was about a two-year old child who was ran over twice.

So don't come in here and start acting like an insensitive asshole, and then use your personal problems as an excuse. I don't really care about this either, but I don't come in here and start talking about how a two year old deserved to die because she can't comprehend the world around her.

Oh, I am well aware that nobody cares cares about my problems. I believe that was my point, nobody really cares, why should we fake it.

I like how you insulted me and then called me an asshole. Thats a class act, at least I am honest about what I think.

Honest? Or Emo. But clearly because of everything happening in your own sad life, you cannot feel at least sorry/sad about someone else getting killed pointlessly. Good one!

 

[F4LL3N]

Wow! Some people here deserve to be banned for their sheer lack of compassion for others. Not doing so is simply encouraging them as if it's okay to act and feel that way. Why post if you're just going to post stupidity.

"Hur dur! Girl to stupid to move out of way, obviously deserves to die!"

You've obviously never met a 2 year old before. You've obviously got no idea about childhood development. And you obviously didn't even watch the damn video of it. She had all of 1-2 seconds notice, and you go ahead and post one of the most stupid remarks I've read in my life.

Don't blame it on the 'bystander effect' either. This is the internet, not the streets of New York. You just showed everyone who you really are.

Unbelievable.

 

[ScreamingNinja]

Wow! Some people here deserve to be banned for their sheer lack of compassion for others. Not doing so is simply encouraging them as if it's okay to act and feel that way. Why post if you're just going to post stupidity.

"Hur dur! Girl to stupid to move out of way, obviously deserves to die!"

You've obviously never met a 2 year old before. You've obviously got no idea about childhood development. And you obviously didn't even watch the damn video of it. She had all of 1-2 seconds notice, and you go ahead and post one of the most stupid remarks I've read in my life.

Don't blame it on the 'bystander effect' either. This is the internet, not the streets of New York. You just showed everyone who you really are.

Unbelievable.

I like this guy.

 

[Suijen]

Fun fact, in China, if you help a person in an accident, you become responsible for their well being and medical expenses.

Also, if that person dies, you can be sued.

In recent news, an elderly woman in a bus fainted. A young woman took her to the hospital where she died. Now she's being sued by the family on the basis that she harmed the old woman. In a country with an absence of Good Samaritan laws, this is what happens. Before, Communist China relied on "just being a good communist" as reason to help others. Apparently that doesn't apply when you've got bills to pay and there's always someone out to screw you (not even government related). Ayn Rand would be pleased.

This brings again another interesting scenario that happened in a Chinese hospital. A woman laid dying while the husband went from doctor to doctor begging each doctor to do something. Each doctor refused. It's not because they lacked the skills (there are plenty of competent Chinese doctors), but because they knew the woman as dying, and the last one to touch her will lose a year's salary through a lawsuit, which you need to send your child to school (which isn't cheap). When faced in that situation and such a cut-throat environment, it's hard to do the right thing.

The people in the video suck, not because they didn't touch the child, but because they didn't even make a phone call. It's either the Bystander effect or the effect of wild west market liberalization, in either case it sucks, but is quite a common phenomenon in China.

 

[Crazy_Dude]

When my parents explained to me how that system in China works. That if you help someone you will be responsible for him and you will have to pay the fees, the fact you could even get sued for trying to help people is horrible.

Although with idiotic rules like this still used. I could see why this happend and it probably wasn't the first time.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

I refuse to judge anyone who does this until I have personally saved a life by helping someone injured in the street.

I just don't believe that there happened to be 18 unusually selfish, ignorant people there at that moment.

I agree with this. I like to think that I'm a caring, unselfish person, but I've never been in this situation. Just as I would like to think that I wouldn't puss out if I was fighting on the beaches of Normandy in World War II, I still have to wonder if I would try to run out of cowardice (though maybe that's not the best example, as there was really nowhere to run in that case...but you get my point).

If I failed to help her, it wouldn't be because of selfishness or lack of care, but because of cowardice and/or simple fear of very serious repercussions.

I third this notion. You just cant know what kind of person you are until you have been tested.

 

[JoJo]

Wow! Some people here deserve to be banned for their sheer lack of compassion for others. Not doing so is simply encouraging them as if it's okay to act and feel that way. Why post if you're just going to post stupidity.

"Hur dur! Girl to stupid to move out of way, obviously deserves to die!"

You've obviously never met a 2 year old before. You've obviously got no idea about childhood development. And you obviously didn't even watch the damn video of it. She had all of 1-2 seconds notice, and you go ahead and post one of the most stupid remarks I've read in my life.

Don't blame it on the 'bystander effect' either. This is the internet, not the streets of New York. You just showed everyone who you really are.

Unbelievable.

A post after my own heart, great to see some reason and compassion on this thread. Anyone who truly doesn't care (and isn't just saying so to be "cool" or edgy) has something deeply wrong with them. Just because someone lives thousands of miles away doesn't mean they are any less real than you or I.

 

[ScreamingNinja]

Honest? Or Emo. But clearly because of everything happening in your own sad life, you cannot feel at least sorry/sad about someone else getting killed pointlessly. Good one!

lolwut? How is that Emo? Oh, someone that I know is dead! Oh, someone that I know has cancer! And I feel bad, yur a su-pid emo! But I don't really feel anything because someone I don't know a world away died, YOU MONSTER!

Lol whatever bro. I've had heaps of people I was close to die/top themselves, and at least two people having cancer who are close to me. I understand feeling bad. But going 'OH I DNT CARE BOUT THIS KID AN SHIT CUZ I GOTZ STUFFS TO DEAL WITH AT HOME THAT MAKES ME WAAAH MOAR' Is weak, unmanly, and yes, Emo.

Are you missing something there? Or is it hard for you to give a shit about something that doesn't effect you? If that's the case, then you're an extremly selfish emo.