Christ...so much snobbery

[maninahat]

I used to think this site had too many elitists. Then I went to the Guardian. Goddamn, but until you've seen anti-intellectual elitists you have not experienced true facepalm.

...what?

How the hell does that work?

It's on the music places - they're the people who actually get snobby about the fact that they only listen to simple 3-chord pop songs. I once saw an article about a group of rappers who made music "to piss off old people" - the Guardianites loved it, saying (and I quote directly): "Wonderful. Truly, the spirit of '76." Before you ask, there didn't appear to be any irony involved.

And seriously, they love the word "wank" so much it's actually disturbing. Try to make pretty, detailed cover art? "Wanky". Your songs longer than 4 minutes/have more than 4 chords/slightly odd time signature/anything? "Middle-class wankfest". Your band tries to act nice and non-douchebaggy? "Pretentious wankstain".

I've seen one of them call Pink Floyd "a bunch of middle-class architecture students" and expect me to view it as a criticism. There's such a thing as taking the punk spirit too far.

... well, that's enough Internet for today. Thank you, OhJohnNo, for telling me the story of the people who are so elitist that they think generic pop music is the greatest thing in the world. There's nothing more I can read tonight that will top that.

You'd think it would be the other way around. Real elitists, such as myself, arbitrarily despise pop music for being too simplistic and samey, whilst adoring blues music for the same basic reasons. I thought we'd see more of that attitude in the Gruniad. I guess its because the real snobs read Private Eye.

 

[Paladin2905]

I think it was Carl Rogers (psychological theorist) who made the case that people stress over the difference between their self-image and what actually happens to them in real life. As a result, people usually don't go out of their way to listen to people who disagree with them. An immediate reason for snobbery- don't threaten me in my nice little bubble!

 

[repeating integers]

I used to think this site had too many elitists. Then I went to the Guardian. Goddamn, but until you've seen anti-intellectual elitists you have not experienced true facepalm.

...what?

How the hell does that work?

It's on the music places - they're the people who actually get snobby about the fact that they only listen to simple 3-chord pop songs. I once saw an article about a group of rappers who made music "to piss off old people" - the Guardianites loved it, saying (and I quote directly): "Wonderful. Truly, the spirit of '76." Before you ask, there didn't appear to be any irony involved.

And seriously, they love the word "wank" so much it's actually disturbing. Try to make pretty, detailed cover art? "Wanky". Your songs longer than 4 minutes/have more than 4 chords/slightly odd time signature/anything? "Middle-class wankfest". Your band tries to act nice and non-douchebaggy? "Pretentious wankstain".

I've seen one of them call Pink Floyd "a bunch of middle-class architecture students" and expect me to view it as a criticism. There's such a thing as taking the punk spirit too far.

... well, that's enough Internet for today. Thank you, OhJohnNo, for telling me the story of the people who are so elitist that they think generic pop music is the greatest thing in the world. There's nothing more I can read tonight that will top that.

Actually, they hate "generic pop music" - the only thing they seem to listen to are hipster indie bands who go out of their way to be as simple and "unpretentious" as possible, or alternatively bands from the 60s and 1976-77 (oddly specific).

They're far from the only people on the Guardian, of course, so you frequently see arguments between them and other sorts of elitist. Point is, there's a reason I have Chrome Nanny blocking the Guardian's music pages for me, and it's not that it was such a blindingly good haven of good behaviour that it was distracting me from my work.

Fun fact: Just to see if things had changed at all, I recently unblocked it and checked. I found an article on Kate Bush. One of the comments was, verbatim "Sounds shit," (yes, the comma too). It had 307 Recommendations.

 

[Jegsimmons]

Complaining about a website thats snobby.....on one of the snobby-est site on the internet.

honestly i think its just a case of snobs of opposing views.

 

[Erttheking]

I think I made a thread about this not too long ago. Believe me OP, I know exactly what you're talking about, Hell I was arguing with two guys in a Halo thread last night and I realized that I was actually having a good time for once because they were being very polite about it. It made me realize that it was the only time in a long time that that had happened.

 

[Savo]

Yep, that's the internet for you. You just gotta get used to it because it'll never go away. If there is one thing people like, it's lifting themselves up over others, whether it's about video-games or politics.

Just never go on the IMDB's forums if you value your sanity. The snobbery I have seen on its forums beat any other website I've ever seen, no joke.

 

[JonnWood]

Yep, that's the internet for you. You just gotta get used to it because it'll never go away. If there is one thing people like, it's lifting themselves up over others, whether it's about video-games or politics.

Just never go on the IMDB's forums if you value your sanity. The snobbery I have seen on its forums beat any other website I've ever seen, no joke.

I once saw a guy say that he gave certain movies 1s so he could lower it closer to the score he thought it deserved.

So if you're wondering why good movies have 7.7s, now you know.

 

[Kleingeier]

I embrace "snobbery". People need not feign tolerance just to make the bad feels go away. You think something? You think it for a reason. You think it's the best option, the best idea, the best way to live. If you aren't willing to clench your fists around it and wave it like a bastard, start believing something you can.

 

[Kleingeier]

I can't be the only one that notices the hypocrisy, and finds it delicious.

"These people are such snobs. How awful! They're awful for assuming anyone who doesn't approach the world the same way they do is awful!"

The irony...it tastes so good.

 

[WanderingFool]

The need for self-validation is one of our species' greatest social weaknesses.

...

We also have a 50% weakness to magicka.

You have a 50% weakness to magica. I have a 30% resistance to Cold magic and bonuses to Heavy Armor and Axes. Also Armoring, but I don't use that.

I have a 50% resistance to Fire... And can summon my Ancestors to kick guys asses...

OT: Its the lack of one's own self-worth causes them to be that way. Simply, they dont like themselves as is, but instead of trying to improve themselves, they instead act like dicks to other people...

 

[The Artificially Prolonged]

A problem is that many people don't know how to debate and think he who shouts the loudest has the most valid opinion. Add in the internet and you have snobbery levels go through the roof.

It's no different here most of the time.

What? Snobbery on The Escapist, I've never heard of such nonsense! Okay apart from March Madness...and pc vs console debates... and gender issues... and science vs religion... and things others say that get on your nerves / common misconception threads, but apart from that no snobbery here.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

I am more of an ass than a snob. I just want people to stop buying shallow crappy media....

 

[Spinozaad]

I'm more of an elitist.

I don't need to pronounce to the world I'm superior. The world knows.

 

[Watcheroftrends]

It's pretty much because an opinion doesn't have any repercussions on the internet. People also like to think they are pretty clever, so they make absolute judgements on things that are entirely subjective. Everyone who does this generally supports everyone else who does this if they happen to arrive at the same judgement.

The irony is that in trying to make objective judgements of the world, you completely fail to do just that.

 

[FamoFunk]

I bet it's a million times better than the shite your read in the comments section of The Daily Mail.

 

[kalakashi]

I bet it's a million times better than the shite your read in the comments section of The Daily Mail.

And the article section.