Christianity and You!

[Cliff_m85]

Allow me to give an example....

Redbeard: ?Behold the crucifix, what does it symbolize? Pallid incompetence hanging on a tree.?

LaVey: ?Behold the crucifix; what does it symbolize? Pallid incompetence hanging on a tree.?

Redbeard: ?Can the torn and bloody victim ?love? the blood-splashed jaws that rend it limb from limb? Are we not all predatory animals by instinct? If humans ceased wholly from preying upon each other, could they continue to exist??

LaVey: ?Can the torn and bloody victim ?love? the blood-splashed jaws that rend him limb from limb? Are we not all predatory animals by instinct? If humans ceased wholly from preying upon each other, could they continue to exist??

 

[DJ Lord Destructocon]

The reason that Christianity was founded was for the governments to exert control over the people. The same goes for Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, etc. The reason that those religions are still around is, surprise, the exact same reason they were founded. Do you really think militia groups in the Middle-East could get suicide-bombers without the promise of a great reward after death? Or that those TV Evangelists could keep getting people to donate without the threat of eternal damnation?

 

[Flying-Emu]

My opinion on Christianity? Well, you asked for it.

I view modern Christianity as a near abomination. A bastardization of the true message and ideals of Christianity. You have racist idiots calling themselves Christians, people using the Bible as justification for horrendous deeds. And then that spawns people who say that Christianity is the source of all evil in the world.

I'm what is called a Deist; that is, I believe that the Lord God created the universe and natural laws and allowed it to run its course. He plays very little hand in the world. The Bible? Well... that's a good question.

The Bible is a distressing question for me. At once, it holds a lot of messages that I think should be taken to heart, yet at the same time I realize that it was written by mankind in an attempt to understand the words of a Holy Being more powerful than the mind can conceive. Therefore, I interpret the Bible in a non-literal sense; that is, the message is more important than the details of the story.

This thread will not end well, if threads with even the mention of Christianity hold true.

 

[findler]

Personally, I'm an agnostic. After many years of trying organized religion and many different flavors of Christianity, it's just really not for me. I do believe in God, the Christian God because to me it's undeniable. Take a look at the human circulatory system! Someone had their hands all over that one. While I believe that religion has been abused and exploited to the benefit of certain people on this earth, I still think that spirituality and belief are very strong and untainted.

 

[j0z]

*sigh* another religion thread?
Christianity is so simple because God is perfect, he is perfect, completely good. He punishes his enemies, and rewards his followers (eventually).
Even if it is all untrue, and there is no god, (which I do not believe). It really makes no difference, because whether it is true or not. The ideas and teachings of Christianity (and all other peaceful religions) have helped to civilize people, to help prevent rape, murder, and all the other bad things that humans are capable of. Of course, it doesn't stop 100% of it, not even 50% more than likely, but it helps prevent some of it. So, I say huzzah for religion, whether it is correct or not.

 

[Pandalisk]

Because God in all religions is a total Bad ass, Lucifer on the other hand is a complete and utter reject, that's why hes in Hell to begin with.

it wasn't meant to exciting anyway, its meant to bring Joy, peace, happiness and a sense of Unity in a community and a sense of Purpose in this world.

and you have to remember that this was way back in time, you ever seen the horror films back then? pathetic and funny in modern times but Wolf man and others generally scared the shit out of people.

 

[The_Echo]

I have a question: Why do atheists seem to pick on Christianity the most? (I just don't notice you guys talking about Judaism or Islam, like, ever. They're all rather similar.)

 

[GrimTuesday]

this is a breif history as i understand it so feel free to correct me if im actualy wrong, but not if you just want to make waves.

when christianity was adopted by the romans which was at that time the most expansive empire they began to froce thier people to adopt the religion. then as rome fell a frankish warlord by the name of clovise was converted by his wife and thus he brought it to the rest of Europe as he conqured it thus bringing more people to the roman cathlic church whom at that time had a pope and was relitivly similer to the church we know today. after that came the dark ages during which the church offered saftey from the celts and other "Barbarians". they (the church) also preyed on peoples superstions and fears to make them belive that the churches way is the only way, one example of this is the arcatecture of many of the cathidrals and churches of the middle ages and rennasonce era which are built in the gothic style which is ment to inspire fear.


the history brings me to the point i want to make which is that chritanity origenaly ruled the haerts and minds of people by fear which over generations has led to many very firm beleviers it got in the door at just the right time that people turned to it when all that they knew was crumbuling around them and they found solice in that. thats why its so popular.l

 

[Berethond]

Seriously? Making a thread is just like asking people to hate each other and spew vitrolic nonsense that is (mostly) unfounded.

Yes, I am a practicing Mormon.
I believe in the Bible, as far as it is translated correctly.
I also believe in the Book of Mormon. (Duh)

You want my opinion?
I love Christianity.
<color=white>Now let's count the people who reference polygamy while quoting me.....

 

[Flying-Emu]

The reason that Christianity was founded was for the governments to exert control over the people. The same goes for Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, etc. The reason that those religions are still around is, surprise, the exact same reason they were founded. Do you really think militia groups in the Middle-East could get suicide-bombers without the promise of a great reward after death? Or that those TV Evangelists could keep getting people to donate without the threat of eternal damnation?

What a deliciously bigoted statement.

Do you really believe that? How is a religion that endorses love and peace among mankind a tool for governmental control? Half of the Old Testament is talking about the Israelites being oppressed by an evil regime; not exactly "control" material.

 

[Nargleblarg]

I have no religion but if I had to be put into one it would probably be Athiest. And I don't hate christianity as a religion but I hate what it does to people making them feel like they are better then everyone and have some sort of holy purpose living. Also those christians who just act like I'm the one who is insane by not believing in a god those people are the most ignorant people ever. I was christian until about a year ago (i wasn't a very good one anyway)but I realized I was in control of my own life and no one else was but also I don't like the feeling like I've been brainwashed as a child to believe these silly things.

But through all the lies of the christian religon it really isn't a bad thing it teaches people from early age to be good people and help each other. But there can be too much belief in it creating radicals and others who just give their life for the religon which isn't right.

Also watch the movie "religious" it helps explain alot about religon in general and how we can make ourselves believe such silly things to make us feel safe.

One final thing which is my ultimate complaint with any religon is they think that they have all of the answers, which they don't but people blindly believe them, but the real answer is we just don't know the mysteries of life but in fact I personally think there isn't any mysteries to life.

Gods are just ideas we create and use to explain things we can't explain, that's all they are.

EDIT: Even though I don't believe in a god I do believe Jesus was a person but was not magic or holy in any way, he was just a very wise and enlightened rabbi.

 

[dontworryaboutit]

oh good! a Religious thread! no bad ever comes from these!

Indeed.

 

[Romaru]

I have a question: Why do atheists seem to pick on Christianity the most? (I just don't notice you guys talking about Judaism or Islam, like, ever. They're all rather similar.)

Threat of death/race card?

As a church going Christian I can honestly say that I don't get a lot of what the Church says. For one thing there is a hell of a lot cut from the Bible thanks to the council of Nicea, and deemed heretical. Why? Why is it that the Church still views woman as second class citizens? Why is it that the number one lesson of Jesus was to love one another, and yet people are still killing each other in his name?

If you take one thing from the teachings of Christianity it's :Treat others as you would wish to be treated.

That's it.

 

[gabdewulf]

I think the monothiesm came about because the Israels were divided. If they got behind one god, then they could be one people. Or, they got kick out of another polytheism group and kept thier god.

Polytheism was invented to unite different tribes. The priests at some point "married" thier gods. The god's children were later additions. Check out the history of religion.

Personally, I like Taoism. It says the Tao is a force of nature. The best thing in life is not to stress, try to live a really long time, and don't worry about it because you're not gonna figure out the Tao anyways. Sure religion exists, but its like more like gravity than something that suppose to care. Plus with everything coming from the Tao, it finally explains what the Hebrew god step out of when it referred to the "darkness". But that works for me.

Christians main thing going for it today is its either replacing something worse, immensly popular so everyone wants to be cool, and all the major military in the world are connected to it.

 

[jodko]

Wow some of you people really don?t know what your talking about, saten works for god wtf? nor does he punish people saten is imprisoned in hell, now the bibles a big thing so i cant realy summerise it for you in a way that would do it justice so i wont. If you don?t want to read the bible then at least read the divine comedy to at least have some vague idea of what you?re talking about.

 

[Ridonculous_Ninja]

GOD LOVES ALL!

But if you do anything bad, he will send you to hell, even though he loves you.

And he'll hate you if you don't give the church money.

Or not listen to the priest, or listen to Rock and Roll, or Rap, or dance, or Kiss girls, or drink, etc etc etc.

Also Christians and Muslims need to stop fighting each other because the other group is "godless". If you know anything about these religions, you know that they worship THE SAME GOD!

Real brilliant there you stupid, stupid extremists.

I'm looking at you Al'Qaeda!

 

[Cliff_m85]

I have a question: Why do atheists seem to pick on Christianity the most? (I just don't notice you guys talking about Judaism or Islam, like, ever. They're all rather similar.)

Islam is nonsense, Judaism is nonsense, but I only really see Christianity trying to gain a political foothold in America. So that's why it gets targetted the most. That and Mormonism due to their homophobia and ridiculous nonsensical beliefs that include Jesus being from America as well as black people being evil.

 

[Cliff_m85]

Wow some of you people really don?t know what your talking about, saten works for god wtf? nor does he punish people saten is imprisoned in hell, now the bibles a big thing so i cant realy summerise it for you in a way that would do it justice so i wont. If you don?t want to read the bible then at least read the divine comedy to at least have some vague idea of what you?re talking about.

Book of Job.


God tells Satan (not Saten) to torture Job to prove Job will still worship him. Satan tortures him and Job still worships God. God smuggly smiles and brays at Satan that he is teh haxxorz. Satan said "Well, let me fuck with him a bit more". God says "Yeah, sure".


How about you learn about the crap you're talkin'?

 

[LongAndShort]

For starters Christianity didn't originally rule people through fear kaneisfeelingable, that is a misconception spread during the age of enlightenment like the misconception that Early Christians thought the world was flat. One scholar in the 10th/11th century who became a saint said that the world being round showed why we could see further distances when higher up. Yes they attacked the Muslims in the crusades, but who hasn't attacked the Muslims at some stage in history? (eg. the Animist Mongols and Hindu Indians). They didn't start burning and persecuting and playing upon peoples fears and superstitions until the 15th century (the so-called renaissance) when they feared that they were losing power. This would eventually lead to the reformists such as Martin Luther.

People got into Christianity because it was accessible to anyone, promoted peace and provided a means to a happy afterlife. The Norse promised a good afterlife only if you died in battle. The Egyptians promised eternal servitude to the Gods. The Greeks/Romans promised torment in the underworld (unless you were a hero). Christianity promised heaven for those that followed it. It quickly spread through the Roman army and became known as a soldiers religion. That's how it spread, through the various ancient and dark age armies, because with the threat of impending doom, they wanted know they'd get something good in the afterlife.

Christianity is now the world's largest religion.

Its biggest problem is that it is constantly twisted for political means, but that happens with everything, from religion to science (don't you tell me that Global Warming isn't being used for political purposes)