Christianity and You!

[Berethond]

That and Mormonism due to their homophobia and ridiculous nonsensical beliefs that include Jesus being from America as well as black people being evil.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[LongAndShort]

Wow some of you people really don?t know what your talking about, saten works for god wtf? nor does he punish people saten is imprisoned in hell, now the bibles a big thing so i cant realy summerise it for you in a way that would do it justice so i wont. If you don?t want to read the bible then at least read the divine comedy to at least have some vague idea of what you?re talking about.

Book of Job.


God tells Satan (not Saten) to torture Job to prove Job will still worship him. Satan tortures him and Job still worships God. God smuggly smiles and brays at Satan that he is teh haxxorz. Satan said "Well, let me fuck with him a bit more". God says "Yeah, sure".


How about you learn about the crap you're talkin'?

Yeah, but after Job proved his faith and Satan couldn't tempt him, God rewarded him threefold. Learn about the crap you're talking! Its a story meant to be an example for all to follow, to worship god in the good and bad times because you will eventually be rewarded (on earth or in heaven)

And Satan hurts everyone, no matter who they are.

 

[hagaya]

Yeah, I never got the whole point of Christians saying you're going to hell. Loving God and hell don't add up. Am I right?

Yes and no, depending on who you're talking to. Me (Catholic), I think that an interest in Hell and Demons and all that crap is fine. I find Dante's Inferno freaking fascinating, and Hell is just cool to me. I still believe in God, I just don't try to force my belief on everybody else.

 

[Cliff_m85]

That and Mormonism due to their homophobia and ridiculous nonsensical beliefs that include Jesus being from America as well as black people being evil.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

You want to test me? I gots the verses, baby.

 

[hagaya]

That and Mormonism due to their homophobia and ridiculous nonsensical beliefs that include Jesus being from America as well as black people being evil.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

I think this one got all of his knowledge from the South Park episode on Mormonism.

 

[Berethond]

That and Mormonism due to their homophobia and ridiculous nonsensical beliefs that include Jesus being from America as well as black people being evil.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

You want to test me? I gots the verses, baby.

Go for it.
Let's start with "Jesus being from America".

 

[Cliff_m85]

Wow some of you people really don?t know what your talking about, saten works for god wtf? nor does he punish people saten is imprisoned in hell, now the bibles a big thing so i cant realy summerise it for you in a way that would do it justice so i wont. If you don?t want to read the bible then at least read the divine comedy to at least have some vague idea of what you?re talking about.

Book of Job.


God tells Satan (not Saten) to torture Job to prove Job will still worship him. Satan tortures him and Job still worships God. God smuggly smiles and brays at Satan that he is teh haxxorz. Satan said "Well, let me fuck with him a bit more". God says "Yeah, sure".


How about you learn about the crap you're talkin'?

Yeah, but after Job proved his faith and Satan couldn't tempt him, God rewarded him threefold. Learn about the crap you're talking! Its a story meant to be an example for all to follow, to worship god in the good and bad times because you will eventually be rewarded (on earth or in heaven)

And Satan hurts everyone, no matter who they are.

He murdered his children and didn't return the children to life. He murdered his wife and just gave him a more attractive wife.


That doesn't make it fine at all. How about you learn about the delusional shit you're talking about? Or just keep repeating "How about you....about" continuously.

Add that in the Old Testament God seemed to think raping a virgin was worthy of a punishment of 40 pieces of silver and then a forced marriage where the virgin had to marry her assaulter. (Ezekiel 22: 28-29?)

 

[BolognaBaloney]

True, Christianity has been used to kill thousands upon thousands of people and it is quite simplistic but I guess simplicity is what people back than needed and the basic values are good to follow.

Me, I'm in the middle between Atheisim and Agnostic( Believe in God But don't follow any religion).

My current religious status as well, well actually more deist, but you get the idea.

 

[runedeadthA]

The Bible is a distressing question for me. At once, it holds a lot of messages that I think should be taken to heart, yet at the same time I realize that it was written by mankind in an attempt to understand the words of a Holy Being more powerful than the mind can conceive. Therefore, I interpret the Bible in a non-literal sense; that is, the message is more important than the details of the story.

T.

The world's first self-help book?

 

[Delicious]

I have a question: Why do atheists seem to pick on Christianity the most? (I just don't notice you guys talking about Judaism or Islam, like, ever. They're all rather similar.)

Threat of death/race card?

As a church going Christian I can honestly say that I don't get a lot of what the Church says. For one thing there is a hell of a lot cut from the Bible thanks to the council of Nicea, and deemed heretical. Why? Why is it that the Church still views woman as second class citizens? Why is it that the number one lesson of Jesus was to love one another, and yet people are still killing each other in his name?

If you take one thing from the teachings of Christianity it's :Treat others as you would wish to be treated.

That's it.

People will kill in the name of anything.

This defect is hardly Christianity's fault.

 

[A random person]

Yeah, I never got the whole point of Christians saying you're going to hell. Loving God and hell don't add up. Am I right?

Yes you are. Why would god send his supposed children to a place of eternal torment? What kind of twisted father does that?

 

[Cliff_m85]

That and Mormonism due to their homophobia and ridiculous nonsensical beliefs that include Jesus being from America as well as black people being evil.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

You want to test me? I gots the verses, baby.

Go for it.
Let's start with "Jesus being from America".

Well basically him visiting America. The book of 3 Nephi. Chapter 23 specifically. http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/23




?But let them apostatize, and they will become gray-haired, wrinkled, and black, just like the Devil" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 332

 

[tsb247]

Now to get this out of the way, im Atheist and this is no hate thread, this is just everyone's opinions (no fighting please, debating, fair enough, but no fighting).

I'm a very logical person who always looks on both sides of an argument, taking both opinions and ideals into consideration while developing a conclusion of my own; so i ran through my head "why is Christianity so famous?" And personally as a religion i find it so bland, "there is a single god, called god and his son called Jesus" at least in Ancient Egypt there religion had about over 20 gods all with a backstory and a such, even the Norse people had just below a dozen. All of which are very interesting, on how they influenced the lifes of the followers. With Christianity, its just so basic, in the library of beliefs it comes under "baby's first religion" "this is a god, worship him, be a nice guy."

With all its simplicity aside, it did give way to keeping some human values intact such as no rape, murder etc. which was brought on before, but it helped during the dark ages. But now or days it seems so...unnecessary, now i don't mind Christians; some of them its hard to tell they even believe in god, but its the ones who throw it in your face about how your going to hell and that god is still forgiving and bleh (FYI: Satan is more appealing, 1. he has killed far less people, 2. he takes the bad people and punishes them, while being made out to be evil, commitment much?).

Because i would write about 19 pages on my own, i think i'll just leave it at that, my point is put across and my opinion is it.

Whats yours?

What are you trying to prove here? I've always wondered what athiests get out of these kinds of threads. Are you trying to figure something out; trying to reinforce your stance, or are you truly curious about something?

 

[Yamiki]

Personally, I have no problem with the monotheisitic or even polytheistic religions we have now days, many of my mates are Christian, Morman, Jewish and Traditional Australian Aboriginal.
Being Atheist there is this stigma that we all hate religion.
I do not hate any religion, I hate extremists Suicide Bombers, Televangelists, anyone who actively and forcefully trys to push their religion upon me.

Actually I do enjoy reading the literature from most religions they are great stories, like the Greek/Eygptian mythology brilliant stories but to me they are just that stories.

Now I'm not here to bible bash so I won't, but I will end in saying these things.

1. Your religion like your place of birth shouldn't matter, it is only by your actions should you be judged.
2. No matter what you believe, keep it to yourself, I actually could not care less, what you believe in is your choice what I believe in is mine.
3. No good has ever come to discussing religion on a forum. It's like asking /b/ to be serious for a second. Religion incites people, like the war on drugs and the death sentence debate. Lets just go back to discussing what we (at least I) came here for the Games Industry and the latest releases whilst less mundane then a religous argument, it is something everyone can enjoy.

Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice: Pull down your pants and slide on the ice. (M*A*S*H - Sidney Freedman (Allan Arbus).

*edit*
If I'm wrong and there is a hell... I will enjoy it
All the interesting people in hell... lol

 

[Cliff_m85]

32 ?Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven.
33 But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.
34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth, but a sword.

35 For I have come to turn
a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law


Matthew 10

 

[Berethond]

That and Mormonism due to their homophobia and ridiculous nonsensical beliefs that include Jesus being from America as well as black people being evil.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

You want to test me? I gots the verses, baby.

Go for it.
Let's start with "Jesus being from America".

Well basically him visiting America. The book of 3 Nephi. Chapter 23 specifically. http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/23




?But let them apostatize, and they will become gray-haired, wrinkled, and black, just like the Devil" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 332

How does 'visiting' equal 'being from'?
I visited Colorado once, that doesn't I'm from Colorado.

And Brigham Young is describing the devil.....
That doesn't mean the church thinks that black people are evil.

That quote is probably taken out of context as well.

 

[IxionIndustries]

And so it begins.. Another religious thread..

I agree with you completely. The religion is so damn bland, it's like the little cakes that they give out.
That's why I enjoy reading books about the many different mythologies that *made* up the world.
Now most of them that exist are monotheistic replicants. The only thing different is the change the the words a little..
Makes me still wish the Aztecs were around.

 

[Spirultima]

Now to get this out of the way, im Atheist and this is no hate thread, this is just everyone's opinions (no fighting please, debating, fair enough, but no fighting).

I'm a very logical person who always looks on both sides of an argument, taking both opinions and ideals into consideration while developing a conclusion of my own; so i ran through my head "why is Christianity so famous?" And personally as a religion i find it so bland, "there is a single god, called god and his son called Jesus" at least in Ancient Egypt there religion had about over 20 gods all with a backstory and a such, even the Norse people had just below a dozen. All of which are very interesting, on how they influenced the lifes of the followers. With Christianity, its just so basic, in the library of beliefs it comes under "baby's first religion" "this is a god, worship him, be a nice guy."

With all its simplicity aside, it did give way to keeping some human values intact such as no rape, murder etc. which was brought on before, but it helped during the dark ages. But now or days it seems so...unnecessary, now i don't mind Christians; some of them its hard to tell they even believe in god, but its the ones who throw it in your face about how your going to hell and that god is still forgiving and bleh (FYI: Satan is more appealing, 1. he has killed far less people, 2. he takes the bad people and punishes them, while being made out to be evil, commitment much?).

Because i would write about 19 pages on my own, i think i'll just leave it at that, my point is put across and my opinion is it.

Whats yours?

What are you trying to prove here? I've always wondered what athiests get out of these kinds of threads. Are you trying to figure something out; trying to reinforce your stance, or are you truly curious about something?

Just want to know a rough idea on where the community stands on religion without it resulting in "MY RELIGION IS BETTER!"

 

[NoNameMcgee]

Yeah, I never got the whole point of Christians saying you're going to hell. Loving God and hell don't add up. Am I right?

You're very right.

 

[Mr Scott]

Father tried to raise me Catholic, got me baptized and everything. At age 17 I converted myself to LaVeyan Satanism. I understood too well the ten commandments and what they meant for me, and I didn't like it.