Classic film moments ruined by logic

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HypnotizedCOW

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Star Wars, for the sheer lack of logic of space battles (can't have either explosions or noise if theirs no air), the lightsabers (They would just pass through flesh, causing nothing but annoyence) and the Death Star's Beam (The beams that combine into one would all just go on forever, instead of stopping for no apparent reason and making some SUPER BEEM)
 

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Flying-Emu said:
Lightsabers...

Dammit, why do those beams of light not just pass THROUGH each other?
and why do they only grow like 3 feet, if it's light, shouldn't it keep going
 

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Haxordude said:
The entire Wanted movie
*cocks shotgun* that film never happened, you hear? it was a gross bastardisation of an awesome graphic novel and should be wiped from this earth.

To be honest I can shut my brain off and never listen to logic (no matter how loud it screams) but my house mate just can't.

Seriously there is such thing called suspension of disbelief (this applies to the rest of you too, for things like star wars and x-men and the like) but he just can't handle that, no matter the film he will sit there and say 'oh that would never happen' or 'totally impossible to do' (we were watching The Last of The Mohicans, and Daniel Day Lewis shot two rifles, one in each hand at the same time).

Hell he even came out of the Iron Man film saying 'it wasn't very realistic' which I replied with 'IT'S NOT A BLOODY DOCUMENTARY!'

Oh fine I'll play along. Dear Wendy, when one of the kids deflects a bullet off of a hard surface and hits a guard atop a water tower (I think it was like that).
 

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the protaginist said:
LoTR. You know how they had those giant eagles? why didn't they just fly to mount doom on the eagles? i realize the movies about the journey, but...there's a hloe in the story.

And in back to the future. becuase the band would know all of Johnny B. Goode becuase Marty tells them, "keep up with me."
your LOTR refenece is stolen from family guy.... chris said that when he is working at the convenient store. FAIL
 

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Berndawg69 said:
the protaginist said:
LoTR. You know how they had those giant eagles? why didn't they just fly to mount doom on the eagles? i realize the movies about the journey, but...there's a hole in the story.

And in back to the future. becuase the band would know all of Johnny B. Goode becuase Marty tells them, "keep up with me."
your LOTR refenece is stolen from family guy.... chris said that when he is working at the convenient store. FAIL
That it is, but it is true.
 

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notoriouslynx said:
In dark knight, that "two-face" guy should of died when his other half of his face melted or something.
I didn't mind the actual "he lived" part, I just couldn't stand how he managed to eat and talk with only one cheek. Plus, his eye would have been a lot redder without eyelids ( or just fallen out)...and he was way too badass to be carrying eyedrops everywhere :).
 

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Kelmi said:
I've learned to ignore my thoughts. For the sake of myself and everyone near me. I almost cry when James Bond drives a car and backslides on a ice or a rubble and there it is; "SCREEECH!" like driving on asphalt. Or when he drives on a motorcycle which has at least 15 gears. Yeah, in one movie a guy drove a bike and shifted 16 times in total. On a straight road. i counted.

And why the hero doesnt get shot by 20 professional military men shooting him from 10 meters away? Or why doesn't the evil guy kill the hero immediately rather than telling his evil plot in front of him so good guys gets to rescue the hero?

These and many many more situation like these. Well, if I couldn't ignore these thought it would be very hard to watch any classic films.
i believe Austin Powers pointed this one out already
 

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notoriouslynx said:
In dark knight, that "two-face" guy should of died when his other half of his face melted or something.
I didn't mind the actual "he lived" part, I just couldn't stand how he managed to eat and talk with only one cheek. Plus, his eye would have been a lot redder without eyelids ( or just fallen out)...and he was way too badass to be carrying eyedrops everywhere :).[/quote]
Sporky111 said:
notoriouslynx said:
In dark knight, that "two-face" guy should of died when his other half of his face melted or something.
does anybody know how his face got like that in the original story, because the cheesy batman movies, he had some chemical thrown on his face

I didn't mind the actual "he lived" part, I just couldn't stand how he managed to eat and talk with only one cheek. Plus, his eye would have been a lot redder without eyelids ( or just fallen out)...and he was way too badass to be carrying eyedrops everywhere :).
 

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johnx61 said:
Independence Day:

Upload a virus, written in human codes on a f'ing Mac, to the computers on an alien spaceship and expect it to screw up all their systems. Then we win the movie and yay!

Yah, I think this the ultimate "WTF?" movie moment.
Not only that, but Will Smith can pilot an alien ship with out training AND outmanoeuvre other aliens. Then there's the question of why the mothership let a craft that had been missing for 40 years inside and why Will's craft didn't get the virus and it goes on and on...and on...
 

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Star Wars is the worst.
1. No sound in space
2. How could that explode with fire if there is no oxygen in space
3. Ships that big let alone the death star wouldn't be able to move
4. The whole fast than light speed crap is really a bunch of BS if understand the theory of relativity. Darn you physics class.

Oh and in action movies.
1. Everything explodes even if it never hit something to begin with
2. Weapons are designed to injure not kill. Everyone shouldn't die instantly when they get shot.
3. I realize its just pure luck the main character hasn't gotten shot yet.
4. I the bad guys can some how sneak into the main characters bedroom why don't they just stab him or better yet shoot him in his sleep.
 

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carnkhan4 said:
One of the curses of being an overthinker is finding yourself watching a movie and suddenly thinking 'yes, this is an awesome sounding space battle but space is a vacuum there shouldn't be any noise at all' or watching the Bourne Identity and thinking 'the assassin in Paris killed the landlady in the lobby so he obviously came in that way, so why did he go to the trouble of swinging through a window with a machine gun?'

Basically what I'm trying to ask in a rambling way is do you end up sabotaging films for yourself too? if so what moments have been ruined?
my big one is that a Delorian cannot go 88 miles an hour, so back to the future makes no sense.
 

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Saying "This movie involves time travel" is pretty much the same thing as saying "This movie contains gaping plot holes". My personal favorite is from the third Back to the Future movie, where he goes back the the Old West and meets his great-great-grandparents. For some reason, his great-great-grandmother looks just like his mother and his great-great-grandfather looks just like his father. Apparently Marty is the product of at least three generations of inbreeding.
 

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Mostly Harmless said:
Star Wars is the worst.
1. No sound in space
2. How could that explode with fire if there is no oxygen in space
3. Ships that big let alone the death star wouldn't be able to move
4. The whole fast than light speed crap is really a bunch of BS if understand the theory of relativity. Darn you physics class.
It's true that pretty much everything they show in the Star Wars films is a gross bastardizations of physics and it's subsequent terminology. (i.e. ...made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs. A parsec's a measure of distance, 3.26 light years to be exact, not a measure of time. Damn it George, learn your terms!) However, some of your points aren't exactly accurate. Vessels as large as they show in those movies could be moved, it'd just take an unbelievably immense amount of power and thrust to do so. Once they got moving though, they'd be damn hard to stop. As for the fire, there could be a momentary burst of flames with an explosion if (and only if) a large enough pocket of oxygen intermixed with some combustible material, were released all at once. Said fire would be very, very brief.
For the last point, faster than light travel IS possible, even within Relativity. Granted, it takes a bending of the known laws of physics to achieve, but it can be done, theoretically. The ideas of warp drives, wormholes, and other such phenomenon have frequented science fiction for decades, but they started as real scientific theories. In fact, the idea of wormholes and their ability to allow for faster than light travel and, potentially, time travel, came from Einstein himself. (with immense assistance from Nathan Rosen) However, none of this compares to the shear ridiculousness of light sabers. I know some have already argued this point, but come on! They're beams of "light" that not only retain their shape, but can reflect other "light" based weaponry AND cut through just about anything. Ok, sure. Some of you say the beams could be held in place with magnetic fields. Ignoring the fact that you'd have to generate a field from a single point, radiating outward, and have it remain stationary without it actually being attached to it's point of origin, it'd be impossible to have it keep that rod like shape. Even if you managed to keep all of that energy contained in that field, the moment you touch it to something, the field would begin to break down and all of that energy would be released. Speaking of the energy within the saber itself (not even going to bother with how it's created), if it's hot enough to cut through almost any material within seconds, it'd be so hot it'd set the person trying to wield it on fire from probably a few hundred feet away.
Needless to say, I'm a stickler for scientific realism and logic. Not my fault, entirely. I've had it ground into me since I was a child. Damn you science teachers! Ruining my movies.
 

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Dart378 said:
Bunnymarn said:
In the Dark Knight when 'The Joker' plans to get caught, then escape from the police. And then later on in the film say that he doesn't plan things...
Why did you put a statement about the Joker in a thread about logic?

FAIL.
Because I wanted to.
 

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Vigormortis said:
Mostly Harmless said:
4. The whole fast than light speed crap is really a bunch of BS if understand the theory of relativity. Darn you physics class.
For the last point, faster than light travel IS possible, even within Relativity. Granted, it takes a bending of the known laws of physics to achieve, but it can be done, theoretically. The ideas of warp drives, wormholes, and other such phenomenon have frequented science fiction for decades, but they started as real scientific theories. In fact, the idea of wormholes and their ability to allow for faster than light travel and, potentially, time travel, came from Einstein himself. (with immense assistance from Nathan Rosen)
That's all well and good but to travel at those speeds, you would probably have to convert matter to pure energy and you REALLY don't want to do that...
Also wormholes are so pathetically small it would take ridiculously vast amount of energy to sustain for anything to actually go through. I'm not totally ruling these two out of the realms of possibility though.
 

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One gripe i have with most Space Operas:

Why is it that three dimensional movement is so often ignored in big Space Battles? There is no gravity (or only very light gravity), so why everyone behaves like in a standard Dogfight, especially the big ships, wich always seem to adjust to the same axis as the ships around them, friend and foe alike?
 

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johnx61 said:
Independence Day:

Upload a virus, written in human codes on a f'ing Mac, to the computers on an alien spaceship and expect it to screw up all their systems. Then we win the movie and yay!

Yah, I think this the ultimate "WTF?" movie moment.
After watching that movie you have to listen/watch this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byXkZH91he4

Once again, America saves the world from tyranny. And who can resist a Will Smith/Jeff Goldblum combo? Nobody, that's who!
 

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Zallest said:
This isn't really Logic defying but in "The Spirit" a movie that is told in some kind of mid 50's detective style. There is a scene when the doctor and her dad the police chief are talking in and the of course the movie is black and white like Sin City but right in the middle of the damn screen BAM! bright blue bottle of Aquafina on the table! Ruined it...
Wait... hold on... let me wrap my head around this. You saw The Spirit. And what didn't make sense to you... was an artistic/product placement choice... okay... let me just start by... I don't even know where to begin... I mean...really?
It made sense, i said it ruined that part of the movie.
 

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How clone troopers only carry apparently bolt action single shot laser rifles. Why isn't anything in that series? automatic. And how can you fight being force choaked, the whole movie should just be people force choaking each other cause everything else is way less efficent