The gravel voiced asshole protagonist is getting pretty weary in gaming. I feel for all those poor new voice actors, gargling with salt water, smoking 5 packs a day just to get in with a chance.Kekkles said:Yet so many people LOVE Oblivion.
OT: I can't stand several things in stories/film/games... For Instance;
-Tolkien's races when it's NOT WRITTEN BY TOLKIEN!
-Or the older teenage angst child of the story who just HAS to say something all the bloody time.
-THE UNSTOPPABLE EVIL!
-YOU ARE OUR LAST BASTION OF HOPE MAIN PROTAGONIST! Though we have enough man power and firepower to take down the foe but ONLY THE MAIN PROTAGONIST CAN DO THIS! Yeah, no.
-Gravel voiced assholes that head the entire story when they have no more personality than a rock.
I've got a tonne of these.
Lilani said:And believable human characters should poop at some point or another.DarkRyter said:Well of course shoehorning is bad and unacceptable, but I think you missed my point. Pooping isn't an emotional desire or conflict a person has to deal with. It just happens. Sure it may be more "important" on an objective level, but if there is one thing people are not it's objective.
My point is if you're going to have a well-rounded and complex character, you need to in some way address their feelings on, well, feelings. Even if they are uninterested or "asexual," that needs to be established somehow. It's downright neglectful to just up and ignore that side of humanity.
What a character needs is conflict, or any kind. A zombie apocalypse. Racial Discrimination. Dead Parents. A terminal illness. A dear friend's betrayal. A mortal enemy with a death ray. Anything.
It's just that these romantic subplots are so hackneyed and awkward. Characters thrown in just to be love interests. "Will they or won't they" threads never being resolved. Like, we get it Batman. Rachel wants to date some other guy. Who cares?
This.TheDarkEricDraven said:Pretty much every romantic cliche ever. Meeting each others parents? Uh oh! What kind of hi jinks will that result in? Gah! Oh, oh, or the one about the female lead getting to be a ***** because she is a girl, but when the guy has her eact failings, he is a dick who must learn the error of his ways.
Moreover, they could have made successful sequels off of those, but they blew the first movie, so they can't. You know what should happen? They should take the book that the bad movie was made off of, then make a better movie, then advertise it as "The Lightning Thief [for example], for real this time."Kwaku Avoke said:I want the good guy to lose for once and I hate love interests. This isn't a cliche I suppose but when a movie is made about a book for errr people below the age of 20 and because it isn't as big as harry potter or twilight they ruin the movie namely Alex Rider and Percy Jackson. Could have been good but they just made it cartoonish.
The corruption I speak of is the wartime plan of using two or three being replaced by the cold-war ambition of bringing about the nuclear genocide of the entire soviet union, never mind what that would do to the rest of the world.Lilani said:You were using them as an example of scientists "just doing their job and having their work corrupted for evil purposes." The Manhattan project was a project for building a nuclear bomb. Their work on the project wasn't "corrupted," it was specifically FOR that purpose, and they were aware of it. How the hell is it considered corruption if they were BUILDING A BOMB. I'm sure if they had qualms with the idea of it being used, they would not have helped build it. Why else would the government contract you to do research on a bomb?McMullen said:What do you mean, knew exactly what they were doing? Did they not build the bomb for the purposes I stated? Also, did they not oppose the idea of nuclear war afterwards?Lilani said:I'm pretty sure those scientists knew exactly what they were doing. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer#Manhattan_Project] Though admittedly, Einstein brought it to Roosevelt's attention first. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#World_War_II_and_the_Manhattan_Project]McMullen said:the scientists who invented the atomic bomb to beat the Germans to it or to end the war with Japan
Now, had they been told they were going to be inventing a way to cure the common cold and then the cure was stolen and turned into a deadly unstoppable virus (or they made the deadly virus by accident and then the government weaponized it), THAT would have been a better example.