Cliffy B doesn't understand Mirror's Edge, and later compares demos to bad sex
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So he's an idiot. What a surprise. I was unaware that there are idiots in the development community. Not.
*reads the news*
Oh. Well, it turns out that its you lot that needs to shut up.
His opinion about demons (which he calls betas, which are an entirely different thing, but then again my opinion is malable about that in light of recent releases) are that they spoil the full game. They break expectation. Once you played the demo, you don't feel like playing the full game. That is a pheromone that he describes, whether it exists or not is another issue. I can hardly
His opinion about Mirror's Edge however, is just that there should be enemies and how does them having guns will effect you. That's hardly unreasonable curiosity.
*reads the news*
Oh. Well, it turns out that its you lot that needs to shut up.
His opinion about demons (which he calls betas, which are an entirely different thing, but then again my opinion is malable about that in light of recent releases) are that they spoil the full game. They break expectation. Once you played the demo, you don't feel like playing the full game. That is a pheromone that he describes, whether it exists or not is another issue. I can hardly
His opinion about Mirror's Edge however, is just that there should be enemies and how does them having guns will effect you. That's hardly unreasonable curiosity.
According to IGN's listings that's right.Richard Groovy Pants said:
It looked a little clunky with the fighting, and why does she drop the pistol in the E3 run through? Is there some story reason for her not killing (like it being more real worldlike). This game really slipped under my radar. 14th is still zombiegeddon day though.
Considering the brief encounter with guns I had in the demo, you seem to be encouraged to not use them rather than they're simply "not required".Shadow-Knight said:
There is actually an Escapist article on the demos=sex with a girl you just met thing already, though not on the Mirror's Edge thing. Doesn't terribly surprise me that he doesn't 'understand' it, he comes across as the frat-boy kind of gamer that LIVE and the 360 are famous for and Mirror's Edge doesn't really seem like that kind of game.
Sort of. It's action packed definetly, got my blood pumping at least (Insert erection joke here?)
Right on. Without any flame, Gears of War is text book game and doesn`t present ANY interest from a design point of view. It`s actually very easy to make providing you have a money printing machine like Microsoft has.Richard Groovy Pants said:
Conclusion : People shouldn`t really adore this guy as a designer just because he made Gears of War.
He never said it needed guns. Do people even read these things anymore? All he was implying is that an incentive to keep moving forward would - in his actual professional opinion - make the game better, even if those things giving you motivation were Goombas.
"lol he made GeoW he must be dum and not understand good game design"
Ugh...
Edit: Where is everyone getting the idea that he thinks he's so amazing? Because he answers the questions interviewers gives him?
"lol he made GeoW he must be dum and not understand good game design"
Ugh...
Edit: Where is everyone getting the idea that he thinks he's so amazing? Because he answers the questions interviewers gives him?
This has got to be about the funniest comment I've seen for ages :-DDGenius said:
As to CliffyB, I personally think he is a bit of an arrogant twat. Gears of War was fun, but it was almost all grey or brown and had nothing particularly innovative, but Mirror's Edge actually has taken an interesting idea and is running with it ;-P
And from what I've seen of the game, I haven't played demo yet, I think might just succeed rather well. I hope it will because it might inspire EA to start working toward quality again rather than profit, like they used to years and years ago in the pre-PSX era.
All right, first off look at the games Cliffy B makes: UT, Gears of War. Guns, guns, guns, big guns, REALLY big guns, more guns, and some gun frosting on top. Of course he's not going to understand the appeal of Mirror's Edge. The point is that it's not another gun heavy FPS. It's supposed to not focus on gameplay, DICE specifically stated that in several interviews. Plus, there is something chasing you: the police. They're the one's shooting at you, and they're the enemy in the game. I found his Mario comparison kind of funny, because those Goombas never chased you. They just walked around minding their own business until some wierd italian plumber with a porn star mustache jumpd on their head and killed them.Fightbulb said:
Now, onto the demos causing people to not buy a game. If your game isn't good enough to make people want to buy the game to enjoy it, not to say that they played it, then you shouldn't bother releasing it. By what he's saying about his justification for not putting out a Gears 2 demo, it sounds like he's only making a game good enough for people to buy it to say they played it. The point of a demo is to let someone know if they want to spend their money on a game and make sure that they'll enjoy it, instead of potentially wasting their money. This is especially prominent now thatnew games cost upwards of $60. If you can't make a game good enoug that people who play the demo will want to buy the full game, then your game isn't good enough to buy in the first place, it's just that without the demo people won't find that out until too late.Fightbulb said:
It does have guns, it just doesn't focus on them very much. Unlike the repetitive idiot-fest Gears of War.Ronwue said:
STOP LISTENING TO THE TROLL.
stop taking him seriously, hes stirring up crap because he doesn't actually care about your opinion, and like him you should really stop caring so much about his.
and people claim that they aren't stupid =/
stop taking him seriously, hes stirring up crap because he doesn't actually care about your opinion, and like him you should really stop caring so much about his.
and people claim that they aren't stupid =/
It's this line that bothers me: "I think Mirror's Edge will be great, too, but they're showing me too much parkour, I want to see the gunplay. I hope it's not all just running and jumping."TheBadass said:
It's a parkour game, and he's complaining about too much parkour. The developers aren't showing off the guns because the goal of the game isn't to shoot people, it's to run, climb and jump to safety.
Would all of you idiots stop humping the Cliff B. bandwagon and actually read the motherfucking articles posted?
There is no critism about Mirror's edge. Just a note of curiosity about how the player would be motivated to move. That's it. It's just worded awkwardly. There is no mention that there should be allot of gunplay, just that he was curious to know how the guns you get will work for you.
As for demos, he stated that he didn't like them and thought that they overally killed the enjoyment of a game, making the players discouraged from playing. Why? Something about players and how they lay their claim about "played it". His logic is incomprehensible, but considering that only a part of the interview was quoted, I wouldn't be surprised if this was taken out of context.
There is no critism about Mirror's edge. Just a note of curiosity about how the player would be motivated to move. That's it. It's just worded awkwardly. There is no mention that there should be allot of gunplay, just that he was curious to know how the guns you get will work for you.
As for demos, he stated that he didn't like them and thought that they overally killed the enjoyment of a game, making the players discouraged from playing. Why? Something about players and how they lay their claim about "played it". His logic is incomprehensible, but considering that only a part of the interview was quoted, I wouldn't be surprised if this was taken out of context.