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Biosophilogical

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I picked the condemned to death thing, because if you are going to die, some would find comfort in ending it on their own terms, not someone else's, on the other hand, in almost all situations, I would never support or condone suicide, as there is almost always a way to get through it without offing yourself (offing still means killing right? With young kids (my age) these days, it's hard to tell if they stole it already to mean masturbate)
 

dmase

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I wouldn't do it ever. Its giving up when you could just suffer through it, but i don't blame other people that do it for seemingly bleak reasons. Child, spouse, or parent dies; for some people thats the end of the line i think i could somehow make it through, but not being put in that situation idk.
 

Dumplebush

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Where I live, assisted suicide is legal and I totally support it. If I am in extreme pain for the rest of my life, then I hope to have that option. I'm not sure if I would do it, but I still want the choice.
 

Jark212

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Well, it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem in most cases...

But I've had this mentality before...
 

Superfly CJ

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Douk said:
If someone wants to kill themselves, let them. That's my ideology, I don't have a strong enough attachment to anyone to be sad if they killed themselves. Though of course there are two types of suicide to me:

1) Type A. Not always about money but if you just can't go on living the way you are now and its nobody's fault but your own, instead of dying a disease or ending up on the streets you kill yourself.
2) Type B. If you are being bullied or otherwise feeling inadequate in the grand scheme of things. I am a very black and white person so to me there are two ways to solve the problem.
a. deal with whoever is causing the problem (bullies, parents, etc)
b. off yourself because option a is too hard.

Anyone who thinks none of the Type B suicides are because they were a coward should look at the facts.

I would be sad at someone killing themselves for Type A, because that's a situation nobody wants to be in.
I'd like to look at the facts, but you didn't give any.

Not everything is black and white, and your perception of the world and the people around you is hardly the be-all and end-all view. Sure, at the end of the day, it's their decision, but to just shrug off all responsibility and say 'let them' is incredibly selfish. Why should you need any sort of emotional attatchment to someone to have to help them when they're in need?

I'm lucky enough not to have been affected by suicide myself, but I can at least empathise with those who have found themselves in such a difficult position. Your categorisation of different types of suicides (and the fact that you subsequently only produced two categories) showcases just how naive you are in this respect.
 

shwnbob

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If killing yourself didn't automatically condemn you I wouldn't be around right now...
 

EHKOS

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Wine is fine but whisky's quicker, suicide is slow with liqour...

No but seriously I would have done it already if not for my mom and the thought of being sent to a place on fire with bad things happening.
 

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Superfly CJ said:
Douk said:
If someone wants to kill themselves, let them. That's my ideology, I don't have a strong enough attachment to anyone to be sad if they killed themselves. Though of course there are two types of suicide to me:

1) Type A. Not always about money but if you just can't go on living the way you are now and its nobody's fault but your own, instead of dying a disease or ending up on the streets you kill yourself.
2) Type B. If you are being bullied or otherwise feeling inadequate in the grand scheme of things. I am a very black and white person so to me there are two ways to solve the problem.
a. deal with whoever is causing the problem (bullies, parents, etc)
b. off yourself because option a is too hard.

Anyone who thinks none of the Type B suicides are because they were a coward should look at the facts.

I would be sad at someone killing themselves for Type A, because that's a situation nobody wants to be in.
I'd like to look at the facts, but you didn't give any.

Not everything is black and white, and your perception of the world and the people around you is hardly the be-all and end-all view. Sure, at the end of the day, it's their decision, but to just shrug off all responsibility and say 'let them' is incredibly selfish. Why should you need any sort of emotional attatchment to someone to have to help them when they're in need?

I'm lucky enough not to have been affected by suicide myself, but I can at least empathise with those who have found themselves in such a difficult position. Your categorisation of different types of suicides (and the fact that you subsequently only produced two categories) showcases just how naive you are in this respect.
I'll attempt to defend my weird views heh heh. If someone is being bullied then suicide is not a rational choice, there's so much more that can be done, but when someone is overly emotional they see suicide is a valid choice. I'm going to help someone fight bullies and try to convince them not to kill themselves, like tell their parents/siblings, but I'm not going to watch them 24/7 to make sure they don't shoot their head. I'm not responsible for someone else if they are that determined to throw their life away.

Those categorizations are there because I feel differently on a case by case basis, but I tried to generalize it, I had like 5 different types but I shortened it to two for time saving. But the two I put are completely different in what could be going on in someones life, you can't deny that.
 

BlumiereBleck

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"Suicide is the question yes is the answer."-Unknown. Well I have strong opinions on it, and I'm torn by it. My religion keeps me from doing it, but my heart wants me to.
 

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Iron Criterion said:
I've attempted suicide on three different occasions. After the third (and so far last attempt) I was seriously ill and I could see what how I was breaking my mother's heart so I've been fighting my depression to prevent a relapse, if only for her sake.
You are a fucking WIN.
Have a cookie.



I haven't given a cookie in a while now...
 

Iron Criterion

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PoisonUnagi said:
Iron Criterion said:
I've attempted suicide on three different occasions. After the third (and so far last attempt) I was seriously ill and I could see what how I was breaking my mother's heart so I've been fighting my depression to prevent a relapse, if only for her sake.
You are a fucking WIN.
Have a cookie.



I haven't given a cookie in a while now...
Thank you sir, this is the second cookie I have received tonight along with cannibalistic cats...
 

fletch_talon

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Euthanasia is fine. Its humanely ending a life when its too physically painful to be enjoyed.
Suicide is bullshit. There are people without homes or any money, starving and suffering, looked down upon by the rest of humanity, treated like scum. If they can manage to find the will to live, then how is being bullied or being left by your girlfriend/wife a valid reason to off yourself.

I'm not however saying that people are selfish or cowards when they do commit suicide. They're just people who need more help dealing with adversity than most.
 

Shock and Awe

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While I understand that people who consider suicide often consider it the best option for themselves and others at the time, 99% of the time they are completely wrong. I sympathize with people who have gone through that kind of ordeal whether as a first or third party. That being said, I think suicide is also a very stupid thing to do unless your only other choice is a slow and painful death.
 

reaper_2k9

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I can say I have thought about it more than once, its complicated issue I hate when people say that "well they should have got over it!"

And I have to ask do YOU know what they were feeling or going through? Do you know what its like to have two people argue about you who dont really want you?

So beore making any snide comments think about it, please..
 

Arkhangelsk

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I've had thoughts about it, but I've never attempted it. And if somebody really wants to do it, nobody should stop them. Of course, they are allowed to try to convince them, but they're not allowed to literally stop them.
 

BlindMessiah94

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People honestly will never understand what it takes to consider suicide until they reach such a low that they themselves have considered it.

Most people never reach that low.
I've been there and though I never would take my own life, at one point I didn't have much left to live for and I finally understood why people consider suicide.
 

reaper_2k9

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Talk to some one who cuts and ask them why, its a release, you might not like it but it works for us...
 

tsb247

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Immanuel Kant would say that suicide is never acceptable because the act treats a human being as a means to an end rather than an end in and of themself, so from an ethical standpoint, it is wrong. By completing suicide, a human being devalues their existance for the sake of a problem that may very well not be life ending. Really, is there anything out there that is really worth killing yourself over?

Only when faced with the certainty of a slow and painful death by some other means would killing oneself be a viable option, and even philosophers like Kant would probably disagree there too.

Suicide is wrong, and it is not victimless.
 

McHampton

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I've always thought that if someone wants to die it's their choice to make, but if you feel the need to help a stranger, or really care about the person obviously you should try to talk them out of it.

I think about suicide all the time, but it's become so common that I know I just need to go to sleep and then all is better in the morning. Of course, sleep doesn't always help either.

In the end if there is anything keeping me from killing myself, it is the my addiction. There is always one more game I need to play. Hitman 5 won't be out for awhile!