CN Real has killed the Cartoon Network
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For me, the channel has been dead for some time. My childhood memories are connected to Cartoon Network, but a much older version. Somewhere along the line, that version died and was replaced.
Well spoken. SciFi/SyFy changed their name because of legal issues, though. Unless that story was wrong.MusicListeningGuy said:
I wouldn't really consider any of the examples from Nickelodeon as "reality shows." They were game shows and things that were somewhere near the realm of sitcoms (I... guess), but not reality TV. Remember the cardinal rule of reality shows: they can by no means have any basis in reality when you really get to the bare bones of a show. Bunch of people at a camp? Somebody has to get voted off each episode, or it's not reality! Someone has to win at camping.
I just can't manage to understand it.
I will always miss the good cartoons they had on Cartoon Network. I too am disgusted about what the have shamefully done to the channel at it's shows as well. I am going to mourn the death of CN when they actually showed cartoons.
p.s. We need toonami back and all of it's kickass action cartoons!!!!
p.s. We need toonami back and all of it's kickass action cartoons!!!!
Yes, well, the Avatar was a very decent show because it wasn't in it for selling out, other than the seasonal DVDs, very few toys were made until the end of the series. It also had unique animation compared to others in the network. A lot of love went into it, and you can easily see it in the episodes, from beginning to end. As for the old television sitcoms, I consider them decades and miles closer to the realities of today's children than the things on now. Not everyone has a gilded sink, a marble countertop, and three cars that are owned by their parents. Most of the United States is middle to lower class suburbs, where yards still exist [Accursed townhouses]. Also, yes, the Legends of the Hidden Temple was a gameshow, but at least it taught people to be active and learned a neat factoid or two whenever you watched it. Today's idiotic, reptitive, and otherwise bland shows are usually pure chance or physical prowess. No, Jepoardy & Wheel of Fortune do not count since they've been around since the 80s with rotating hosts. [Darn you Alex Trebek... or as Adam West would say... Xela Kebert].
On the note of Kid's Next Door & Grim's Billy & Mandy, heck, even Hector Concarne, was an awesome set of shows in themselves. I watched them all, whenever I had the chance, found it to be refreshing, funny, and slightly witty. [Unique names for idiotic gadgets, a brain in a jar attached to a circus bear, what's not to love, and a Grim Reaper bound to 2 children, reminiscient of Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey 2]. Unfortunately, as someone said earlier, Soccer Mothers, Political Censoring, and Overprotective yet misinformed guardians are ruining television, video games, movie rentals, cars, just about everything in general. Dumbing DOWN the masses, while punching out anyone who says different with threats of excommunication from the others. This strategy is slowly lowering the IQ of nearly every American, Illegal Immigrant, and natural born Native American in the United States. It's beginning to show everywhere, from the highest forms of goverment, to the very educators in our schools NOT teaching our children correctly. Example, you ask a teacher a question now-a-days, they have an answer book. You ask them to work the problem, they copy from the book. You ask them to show you, they follow word for word what is said in the book, but do not actually teach the child how to preform the problem. Or if you take another style of person, say... an animator or cartoonist, they are taught to lie down, drop dead, and be a conformist. That example is 2 years ago in my Art 110 class, where my teacher said my drawings were atrocious and should be burned because I draw a bit on the sketchy side. I use a pen, retrace and use better lines, then do a final piece over tracing paper. I dislike pencils, and I've gotten comments on how good I am from people I don't know. I think if I can do commisions at an anime convention [Probably one of the pickiest places in the world for people], I've enough talent to draw a Sunday Comic for $15 a week. However, that's my example. The world is slowly becoming dribble on a child's bib, and television is the first to suffer. The meek shall inherit the earth, wasn't supposed to mean the idiotic or weak minded, [By jove, I hope not], it meant those with intelligence, passion, and understanding of those around them would. Before you know it, I bet you that in 20 years, Mankind's average intellect would drop down to a mere 70 average, 100 would be considered genius, reading will be for chumps, viagra will give you permanent pants pointers, and children will be taught all they need to know by the age of six because their parents don't know anything else! [Flair for the dramatic]
On the note of Kid's Next Door & Grim's Billy & Mandy, heck, even Hector Concarne, was an awesome set of shows in themselves. I watched them all, whenever I had the chance, found it to be refreshing, funny, and slightly witty. [Unique names for idiotic gadgets, a brain in a jar attached to a circus bear, what's not to love, and a Grim Reaper bound to 2 children, reminiscient of Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey 2]. Unfortunately, as someone said earlier, Soccer Mothers, Political Censoring, and Overprotective yet misinformed guardians are ruining television, video games, movie rentals, cars, just about everything in general. Dumbing DOWN the masses, while punching out anyone who says different with threats of excommunication from the others. This strategy is slowly lowering the IQ of nearly every American, Illegal Immigrant, and natural born Native American in the United States. It's beginning to show everywhere, from the highest forms of goverment, to the very educators in our schools NOT teaching our children correctly. Example, you ask a teacher a question now-a-days, they have an answer book. You ask them to work the problem, they copy from the book. You ask them to show you, they follow word for word what is said in the book, but do not actually teach the child how to preform the problem. Or if you take another style of person, say... an animator or cartoonist, they are taught to lie down, drop dead, and be a conformist. That example is 2 years ago in my Art 110 class, where my teacher said my drawings were atrocious and should be burned because I draw a bit on the sketchy side. I use a pen, retrace and use better lines, then do a final piece over tracing paper. I dislike pencils, and I've gotten comments on how good I am from people I don't know. I think if I can do commisions at an anime convention [Probably one of the pickiest places in the world for people], I've enough talent to draw a Sunday Comic for $15 a week. However, that's my example. The world is slowly becoming dribble on a child's bib, and television is the first to suffer. The meek shall inherit the earth, wasn't supposed to mean the idiotic or weak minded, [By jove, I hope not], it meant those with intelligence, passion, and understanding of those around them would. Before you know it, I bet you that in 20 years, Mankind's average intellect would drop down to a mere 70 average, 100 would be considered genius, reading will be for chumps, viagra will give you permanent pants pointers, and children will be taught all they need to know by the age of six because their parents don't know anything else! [Flair for the dramatic]
Because cartoons are costly to produce while reality TV is dirt freakin cheap. You throw the yearly salary of a single animator up as a prize and you get an entire season of show for that and the cost of cameras and crew.Fudgo said:
I don't even turn on the channel anymore for fear of seeing the expositional music video claiming "the channel is growing up now, time to leave cartoons behind and move onto reality TV" When I saw that commercial I turned set my cable box to block cartoon network like I did when TechTV was bought by G4. Who, incidentally, replaced a show that interviewed the greatest minds of our time and replaced it with professional wrestling. It's no exaggeration when I say I died a little inside.
Sadly, I remember that day. I've cried quite a few times over loss of my childhood, teenagerdom, and heck, even some of my adult life. Things change unfortunately, and the changes are not always good, or even worth noticing. But that is the way of life, it is theory, it is reality, it is human nature, heck it's the Chaos Theory. No matter what, time moves forward, every tick of the clock another shift in the river of seconds and minutes. Things will keep changing, but hopefully, this is the antcipation before the Climax, and the resolution leading to better things. By the way, those of you that got that reference, bravisimo.
Cartoon Network started dying way before when the new Adult Swim came in. Then Toonami was axed then they off'd Jetstream.
Yeah an episode 50 (54) cliffhanger that brought no closure to the storyline at all and had all the inklings of a production staff that had no idea that their series was going to be axed. (IE, it didn't even remotely deal with Aku and instead had Jack carrying around a lost baby to return to his mother.)Yarkaz said:
I'm sorely disappointed by this news, I kind of expected it though, after watching the trends of other children's TV channels (mainly the Disney Channel and their awful in house sitcoms).
As the previous poster stated, Toonami should be brought back as it was one of the only places you could view Anime on TV (in the UK anyway).
By the way, when did Ed, Edd and Eddy get cancelled? That was one of the best shows on when I last tuned onto Cartoon Network.
As the previous poster stated, Toonami should be brought back as it was one of the only places you could view Anime on TV (in the UK anyway).
By the way, when did Ed, Edd and Eddy get cancelled? That was one of the best shows on when I last tuned onto Cartoon Network.
Ed, Edd, and Eddy along with pretty much any other cartoon that was part of the original "Cartoon Cartoon" line-up were canceled or limped to their death about 5 years ago. I think the one that lasted the longest was Ed, Edd, and Eddy though; unless you count the PPG special they ran last year I believe.terraNivium said:
It's something that happens to all "specialized" channels eventually. MTV isn't about music anymore, G4 isn't about gaming and technology, and now, Cartoon Network isn't about cartoons.
That isn't to say I think it's natural, or good in any way. I spent an enormous chunk of my childhood watching shows on Cartoon Network, and it's mostly responsible for my desire to entire the field of animation. But I guess in today's "reality, edgy, drama, teenage, REAL" driven world, an episode of Johnny Bravo is too much to ask for on a channel designed around showing cartoons.
That isn't to say I think it's natural, or good in any way. I spent an enormous chunk of my childhood watching shows on Cartoon Network, and it's mostly responsible for my desire to entire the field of animation. But I guess in today's "reality, edgy, drama, teenage, REAL" driven world, an episode of Johnny Bravo is too much to ask for on a channel designed around showing cartoons.
This all really made me go back and look at all the old days. Especially Toonami. I'd always seen Looney Toons and Scooby Doo, but Toonami opened a whole new world for me. All their really creative juices have moved on, leaving CN a Nick clone now, and really, it makes me wonder what the world is left with.
Mad Rhetoric [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11H9Ee3hf68]
Don't Fear Failure [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aBDbeK1igc]
Advanced Robatics [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0NJlTT1nRA]
Outerspace [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuEGOehVbj4]
Tougher than the best, Stronger than the rest [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDS5FcSCpSY]
The fact that the even have non-cartoon shows as a feature is the nail in the coffin.
Mad Rhetoric [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11H9Ee3hf68]
Don't Fear Failure [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aBDbeK1igc]
Advanced Robatics [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0NJlTT1nRA]
Outerspace [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuEGOehVbj4]
Tougher than the best, Stronger than the rest [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDS5FcSCpSY]
The fact that the even have non-cartoon shows as a feature is the nail in the coffin.
I can't stand any of the new RL shows, but mostly the Bobb'e Says show.
It's a Country Fried Home Videos Ripoff, which ripped off America's Funniest Home Videos which brought good family times at my house when I was younger. So out of all the kids on that channel,
I blame Bobb'e the most.
It's a Country Fried Home Videos Ripoff, which ripped off America's Funniest Home Videos which brought good family times at my house when I was younger. So out of all the kids on that channel,
I blame Bobb'e the most.
I remember watching a commercial of "The CN" and saw some unknown guitarist come up.
He asked the viewer what THEY would do if they had a whole TV network to run, and then projected that we would probably try to fill it with REAL people doing REAL things.
I thought "Yeah maybe if this fucking channel wasn't called CARTOON NETWOR... oh wait they changed the name. Then of course!"
Seriously tho, they fucked up. They fucked up bad. Those "real" shows look like they would generate even LESS views then say... cartoon cartoon Fridays or something.
He asked the viewer what THEY would do if they had a whole TV network to run, and then projected that we would probably try to fill it with REAL people doing REAL things.
I thought "Yeah maybe if this fucking channel wasn't called CARTOON NETWOR... oh wait they changed the name. Then of course!"
Seriously tho, they fucked up. They fucked up bad. Those "real" shows look like they would generate even LESS views then say... cartoon cartoon Fridays or something.