CNN RapeLay Controversy Sparks Angry Response

[Sephiwind]

Sick and tired of hearing people think its their god given right to NOT be offended! Everything is so fucking PR now it makes me sick! >.<

I couldn't agree more with this post. If you went by the PC culture logic then Political Correctness should be banned because it highly offends me.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

" --- and that the reason Western children were getting their hands on such games was due to piracy and ineffective game rating standards.

Would it be too much to ask that appropriate age restrictions are put in place in stores in your country so that the rational adults can buy legitimate copies? Nogami said."

This. Truer words about the dipshit demographic in the West just haven't been spoken until now.

 

[Spinozaad]

The whole "who are you to judge us"-argument is a fallacious one. The 'a game for rational, mature audiences' somehow falls flat when it's about a game that revolves around, and only revolves around, raping and terrorizing women.

Western society might have its flaws. Western society might play into the violent masculine hero-fantasy at every turn.

But it does not glorify rape and sexual abuse.

To tell someone to stop observing/judging, because they have higher crimerates is as fallacious as they get. As, in my eyes, that's not the fucking point.

 

[Pilkingtube]

While freely admitting that CNN were idiots about this and Mr Nogami had a right to be offended... Japan is a country in which many trains have Woman Only sections on trains because of the incredibly high numbers of woman that get molested on them, and whose cultural practices actively discourage reporting things of that nature in certain circumstances. I don't care what the numbers say, I know what the culture says.

On a side note, the Japanese people as a whole are likely far more sexually repressed than the US, though it could be argued (and not unfairly) that this came about due to Western influences and at one time, Japan was much more open about sex than they are now.

Many trains is a strange thing to say, i've not used one over here that has a woman only section, please tell me where such ones exist because as it is i've not used one! They certainly aren't in the Tochigi prefecture that's for sure. Also, since we're getting all judgemental, what I see on the trains I use are people sleeping, its a sleep deprived country here, there is a weird thing with sexuality, but i've never seen it manifest on a train =/

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I disagree, though, on the realism of violence in videogames. If something's particularly realistic, it has more of an effect on the culture, especially the adolescents. (Let's face it, they get their hands on these games a lot even though they shouldn't.) But when it comes to Mario and such, it's not really the same thing. With exceptions, abstraction doesn't have the same effect.

Ok. Let's take a particular example.

I've been watching horror films and things from a very early age. They terrified me. Nowadays, the sight of a claw-fingered killer doesn't - but clowns still make me nervous.
Brain Damage? Buckets and buckets of blood - no effect. But seeing the blood run down the streets in Afghanistan on the News makes me physically sick.

It's a bit raw to push adult situations on children through the popular media (read any newspaper today) and then deny them the chance to live through the fantastical version.

If there's a game where you can use the Wii-mote as a knife to slowly pierce the flesh of someone screaming, then I'd make damn sure that was banned...but then, don't you do that in Resident Evil 4 with some beast? The disconnect is there, so no panic.

 

[Ilosia]

I'd forgotten about the controversy with this game. Angered me enough when I first heard about it, they're complaining about a game they will never play, if it ends up in the hands of their children it's the fault of anyone but the designers, in particular you can place the blame on parents who seem to think that everyone else should regulate what their children play for them.

The outrage about this game was just a joke, the game isn't going to make people go out and rape people, people have all sorts of fantasies but doesn't mean they will ever actually ACT on them. The game isn't for the people who complained so they shouldn't be moaning about it. One things for certain, there are few better ways to increase blood pressure than listening to the ravings of 'moral guardians'.

 

[Ilosia]

While freely admitting that CNN were idiots about this and Mr Nogami had a right to be offended... Japan is a country in which many trains have Woman Only sections on trains because of the incredibly high numbers of woman that get molested on them, and whose cultural practices actively discourage reporting things of that nature in certain circumstances. I don't care what the numbers say, I know what the culture says.

On a side note, the Japanese people as a whole are likely far more sexually repressed than the US, though it could be argued (and not unfairly) that this came about due to Western influences and at one time, Japan was much more open about sex than they are now.

Many trains is a strange thing to say, i've not used one over here that has a woman only section, please tell me where such ones exist because as it is i've not used one! They certainly aren't in the Tochigi prefecture that's for sure. Also, since we're getting all judgemental, what I see on the trains I use are people sleeping, its a sleep deprived country here, there is a weird thing with sexuality, but i've never seen it manifest on a train =/

I believe it's designated women only carriages rather than entire trains.

 

[Hiikuro]

I'll make this short, as I'd want to avoid sparking some.. err.. controversy (though I think I might be out of luck there..)

I've played the game (which is not all that good to begin with, illusions other games are much more interesting I think), and it, in retrospect, makes me realize something. All controversy is hyped controversy. Take that with a grain of salt, but really, how many have had a direct experience with the game, and not just heard about its "horrors" from someone else?

Although this might all be because I have a very high tolerance for "offensive" content, as it never has bothered me.

 

[ark123]

Can you imagine when CNN finds out about tentacle porn?

 

[Scrythe]

Despite my apparent distaste of Japan as a whole, I have to sympathize with Nogami here. I mean, what is the deal with us Americans sticking our noses in everyone's shit? So Japan makes a rape-simulator video game, why should I give a fuck? Did the game hurt me in any way? Is playing the game going to turn me into a cereal rapist? Is Jack Thompson beaming like a fat kid locked in a candy factory?

I mean, fuck.

Just... fuck.

 

[Pilkingtube]

While freely admitting that CNN were idiots about this and Mr Nogami had a right to be offended... Japan is a country in which many trains have Woman Only sections on trains because of the incredibly high numbers of woman that get molested on them, and whose cultural practices actively discourage reporting things of that nature in certain circumstances. I don't care what the numbers say, I know what the culture says.

On a side note, the Japanese people as a whole are likely far more sexually repressed than the US, though it could be argued (and not unfairly) that this came about due to Western influences and at one time, Japan was much more open about sex than they are now.

Many trains is a strange thing to say, i've not used one over here that has a woman only section, please tell me where such ones exist because as it is i've not used one! They certainly aren't in the Tochigi prefecture that's for sure. Also, since we're getting all judgemental, what I see on the trains I use are people sleeping, its a sleep deprived country here, there is a weird thing with sexuality, but i've never seen it manifest on a train =/

I believe it's designated women only carriages rather than entire trains.

Again, where are these carriages on the trains? I've yet to see a single train that has a woman only carriage.

 

[VanBasten]

Western society might have its flaws. Western society might play into the violent masculine hero-fantasy at every turn.

But it does not glorify rape and sexual abuse.

Oh come on, as if western porn is all about people who love each other very much and wish to make babies.
Almost all porn is about men dominating women in more or less explicit ways, Japan is just far more open about it.

CNN's response is of course going to be to release some hybrid of Jack Thompson and Michael Atkinson on the American public. It is pure evil.

CNN won't respond. They've done their "ZOMG, Japan is weird. RAPE RAPE RAPE" moral panic inducing bit, they'll move on to something new. There weren't any earthquakes in the past few weeks so they had to fill the time with something.

 

[FightThePower]

"Naturally, that is not to say that our society is without problems, but to be honest, I frankly do not think that you are the ones to tell us"

Wow, America just got served.

 

[mooncalf]

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, I think is appropriate. Hell in both cases even, CNN for being the shameless face of a corrupt media, and Nogami for... Well, they even called it Rapelay, c'mon, that's pretty awful even for the Japanese.

 

[SweetLemonade]

Great response from Nogami,i didint think he would respond

 

[Do4600]

Speaking as a person who lives here, the entirety of the U.S. just needs to chill the fuck out and stop watching television news before we collapse under the weight of our own paranoia and percieved moral superiority.

If only what Mr. Nogami had to say was thought of as news here; that games where you rape people aren't a big deal in Japan because their society has the stability to admit that it's just a stupid harmless game, we might make some sort of advancement towards nationwide maturity; where we actually take responsibility as a nation for our problems and work to fix them instead of blaming movie violence and video games.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

The girl in the middle picture with the green top has breasts slightly larger than her own head. O_O

On topic: Takeshi Nogami, whoever that is, is a wise man.

 

[Dooly95]

All controversy is hyped controversy. Take that with a grain of salt, but really, how many have had a direct experience with the game, and not just heard about its "horrors" from someone else?

I agree with this statement; people here are reacting to the various shit someone else has heard. 'Course, the flip side is that people don't choose to play or see shit, for the reason that it may offend them. They have enough common sense to know when something is tasteless and whatnot, just from the tidbits they hear.

Western society might have its flaws. Western society might play into the violent masculine hero-fantasy at every turn.

You forgot "selling sex to teens". Which is why I think the whole "people in glass houses".

 

[VanBasten]

If a study proved that violent videogames caused violent attitudes

Uhm, what? Let me stop you right there, no such thing is proven, in fact the results of studies overwhelmingly lean in the opposite direction, that there is no link between video games and aggressive behaviour.