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Paragon Fury

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So, I've got a problem. A problem that was recently brought to light by the newest "Love FAQ" article.

I've never had any luck with women. Ever. There are only two women I've ever really liked liked, and they both were way out of my league, even when I got into college. And I'll admit that I have trouble being attracted to "average" women, particularly after knowing the both of them; they were just that far above what most women. I try and deal with it.

But I have issues in other ways. And that is what made the article stick out for me. I'm honest about it; I'm not particularly physically attractive. I don't have money, and likely never will. The only "distinguishing" thing about me is that my grades tend to be slightly better than average and that I don't really have to put in any effort to get Bs and As. I don't have an artistic bone in my body, my sense of humor is deader than Elvis.

The only other real thing I thought I had going for me is that I try to be nice and decent to women (and people in general) but if any of the information provided recently is any indication then that counts for absolutely shite.

And lets add to this the winning combination of my two main hobbies being video games and anime and I've pretty much got a big god damn "Unworthy" sign stuck to my head. Because, like it or not, neither of these are terribly popular with the ladies.

Video games, particularly in the way I think a lot of men mean when they say "I like video games" means something completely different than when women say "I like video games". One means something along the lines of a major sporting event; wherein competitiveness, story loud noises and obsessing over stats is the norm while the other is referring more to something like Farmville or maybe an Xbox Live Arcade game. They're not exactly talking about the same thing; and when they are it becomes even harder because every man in the room takes note because something rarer than gold has just made itself known.

And anime isn't going to be a big "friend" winner or activity. Particularly not when I like to rank anime like Sekirei [http://www.funimation.com/sekirei/episodes] and Witchblade [http://www.funimation.com/witchblade/episodes] up there with Spice and Wolf, Outlaw Star and Mobile Suit Gundam as some of my favorite anime. Having one of them walk in on an episode of Sekirei is probably the fastest way known to man to lose a girlfriend.

Which brings me to the topic of the title. The conflict is this; I can't seem to decide if I'm actually wrong and that it really is just a combination of bad luck, personal issues and lack of people where I've lived that have caused my problem, or if it might finally be time to accept that I'm not one of the lucky desirable ones, and that I never really had or have a chance.

Accepting one means that I'll have to change pretty much everything about me, and wind up not acting naturally....which is the exact opposite of what most people will tell you to do. The other means that I simply got kicked in the nuts by the system like so many other people and that I was damned from the beginning regardless of what I did.

Neither really looks too good here.
 

Total LOLige

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Possible solutions, probably not to be taken seriously.
- Facial reconstruction surgery
- Get some top notch top with your grades and buy the love of some high end whores.
- Persian-wife-finder.com

Aren't there dating sites for anime fans? go there they might not exist.
Someone might fall in love with your inside(cliche)
 

OutcastBOS

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Well, if all else fails, I would try to find some dating sites for people that share the same interests as you. Or, if you wanted to be more active in that, you could always try to visit anime conventions and see if you could find someone that likes the same things that you do. I find that most of the time anime fans are also gamers.
 

Thaluikhain

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Paragon Fury said:
The only other real thing I thought I had going for me is that I try to be nice and decent to women (and people in general) but if any of the information provided recently is any indication then that counts for absolutely shite.
Er...not exactly.

Being decent to people does not grant you a coupon to be redeemed for the hawt plaything of your choice. It is important, however, as a pre-requisite. Everyone is supposed to be a decent human being, you don't get given a cookie for being one, you are condemned if you are not one.

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I'd also add that being in a relationship is not the be all and end all of life, you don't get stamped as a failed human being for not being in one, nor is it part and parcel of being human.

Likewise, not having a girlfriend doesn't mean the system fucked you over. Having a girlfriend is something that does, or does not happen, it's not something you're entitled to by virtue of existing.
 

LiberalSquirrel

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Let me start off by saying that you seem to have a rather interesting (and not particularly positive) stereotype of women. For me, a guy that likes anime and video games is a plus. It gives me two things that I know I can talk to 'em about, after all. But when you say something like this...

Paragon Fury said:
Video games, particularly in the way I think a lot of men mean when they say "I like video games" means something completely different than when women say "I like video games". One means something along the lines of a major sporting event; wherein competitiveness, story loud noises and obsessing over stats is the norm while the other is referring more to something like Farmville or maybe an Xbox Live Arcade game. They're not exactly talking about the same thing; and when they are it becomes even harder because every man in the room takes note because something rarer than gold has just made itself known.
...I automatically get a bit annoyed. I say "I like video games" and I mean... well... that I like video games. I mean that I've spent far too much time beating up friends in Super Smash Bros., Soul Calibur II, and Blazblue. I mean that I've sunk hours into all sorts of RPGs. I do not mean that I've done nothing but play "Farmville or maybe an Xbox Live Arcade game." I love a guy who I can talk games with, but anyone who automatically thinks that I'm declaring myself a "gamer grrl" to get attention is a person who gets on my last one. I don't try to draw attention to myself via my gaming hobby. I mention it to someone because... well... it's one of my favorite hobbies. I game. It's what I do. A man who can't love my Legend of Zelda ringtone can't love me.

As has already been said on this thread, there's two things about self-declared "nice guys." First of all, everyone should strive to be a decent human being: being nice shouldn't be a point in your favor, it should just be expected, in my humble opinion. And secondly, a lot of "nice guys" simply come across as insecure and clingy. (See this article [http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml] for more information.)

Romance is frustrating. That's true for everyone: girl, guy, or anything in between. But, all that being said... you should never try to act how you think you're supposed to act. People tend to catch on to a false personality, and someone who comes across false is just plain unattractive.

There'll be someone out there who will like you. But don't act like someone else to try to get her... and don't go in with the expectation that "anime is a turn-off, gaming is a turn-off, and any girl who says she games is just a quote-on-quote 'casual gamer.'" That will do wonders, I think.
 

isometry

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Based on the part about two exceptional women making all others seem average, consider moving to a city that has a lot of attractive women. Moving to such a city is the best thing anyone can do for their dating life, sexual opportunity was a driving force behind the development of cities in the first place.

It also sounds like you might be immature. Take that in a good way, it means you'll continue maturing, into the person you want to be. There's nothing wrong with videogames, anime, "grades", lack of ambition, and limited attraction to IRL females, but together they do fit a (totally common) pattern of immaturity. If you don't feel ready to grow up, then taking time to continue enjoying being young is a fine option as well, just keep in mind immaturity in general makes it harder to find a relationship.
 

Aigaion

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Go into these things with the best outlook you can, I think, and that'll help considerably. By that I mean don't fear that mentioning anime or video games to a girl will immediately turn her off to you. What Lara had meant when she wrote that Love FAQ was that if your only difining characteristic is being nice, that's bad. Everybody should be nice. And 'Nice Guys' (or girls) will expect you to reward them for being 'nice'. If a girl doesn't like your habits and hobbies, then there's always another who will. Besides, you can change how you look, if only slightly, and intelligence is probably the largest thing that will attract a woman.
 

Paragon Fury

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OutcastBOS said:
Well, if all else fails, I would try to find some dating sites for people that share the same interests as you. Or, if you wanted to be more active in that, you could always try to visit anime conventions and see if you could find someone that likes the same things that you do. I find that most of the time anime fans are also gamers.
I've never trusted dating sites. And there are basically no conventions around here, ever.
 

Peter Storer

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1) Don't pretend to be someone you aren't. That is not the way to long term happiness.
2) As a lot of girls get older their preferance shifts from bad boys to the kind of guys they can see themselves marrying and having kids with... patience may be your best bet.
3) (This is the delicate one) Have a good look at yourself, and ask the opinion of someone who you can trust, and who you can trust to tell you the truth. A lot of us guys who are deeply into games/gaming/anime/sci-fi/fantasy are pretty lacking in social skills, without realy understanding that. It may be that you need to re-evaluate some basic aspects of how you relate to people, and how you talk to people. And no, developing your social skills is not the same as changing yourself, or pretending to be something you arent.

And before I get smashed for making that comment, it isn't hating, its just the truth. Any skill needs to be used and practiced to be developed, and anyone who has a chosen lifestyle that removes them from mainstream society for a lot of their leisure time just doesn't work on developing those skills.
 

Paragon Fury

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LiberalSquirrel said:
Let me start off by saying that you seem to have a rather interesting (and not particularly positive) stereotype of women. For me, a guy that likes anime and video games is a plus. It gives me two things that I know I can talk to 'em about, after all. But when you say something like this...

Paragon Fury said:
Video games, particularly in the way I think a lot of men mean when they say "I like video games" means something completely different than when women say "I like video games". One means something along the lines of a major sporting event; wherein competitiveness, story loud noises and obsessing over stats is the norm while the other is referring more to something like Farmville or maybe an Xbox Live Arcade game. They're not exactly talking about the same thing; and when they are it becomes even harder because every man in the room takes note because something rarer than gold has just made itself known.
...I automatically get a bit annoyed. I say "I like video games" and I mean... well... that I like video games. I mean that I've spent far too much time beating up friends in Super Smash Bros., Soul Calibur II, and Blazblue. I mean that I've sunk hours into all sorts of RPGs. I do not mean that I've done nothing but play "Farmville or maybe an Xbox Live Arcade game." I love a guy who I can talk games with, but anyone who automatically thinks that I'm declaring myself a "gamer grrl" to get attention is a person who gets on my last one. I don't try to draw attention to myself via my gaming hobby. I mention it to someone because... well... it's one of my favorite hobbies. I game. It's what I do. A man who can't love my Legend of Zelda ringtone can't love me.

As has already been said on this thread, there's two things about self-declared "nice guys." First of all, everyone should strive to be a decent human being: being nice shouldn't be a point in your favor, it should just be expected, in my humble opinion. And secondly, a lot of "nice guys" simply come across as insecure and clingy. (See this article [http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml] for more information.)

Romance is frustrating. That's true for everyone: girl, guy, or anything in between. But, all that being said... you should never try to act how you think you're supposed to act. People tend to catch on to a false personality, and someone who comes across false is just plain unattractive.

There'll be someone out there who will like you. But don't act like someone else to try to get her... and don't go in with the expectation that "anime is a turn-off, gaming is a turn-off, and any girl who says she games is just a quote-on-quote 'casual gamer.'" That will do wonders, I think.
I really wish I had the time to make out a more detailed response, but I'll have to settle for a free bump until I get back from class.
 

Logiclul

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Hey man; you're better than you think, I guarantee that to you. Everyone has their own quirks and things that they do, and they aren't restricted to your hobbies. Trust me, don't look for people to date, look for people to get to know, be friends, and if you like each other, and you think it is a good idea, ask her out then. It takes a while to find a girl that doesn't act like 90% of girls do in your eyes, but you will, and you shouldn't rack your mind over it.
 

Melon Hunter

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To be honest, my opinion of Love FAQ has dropped significantly since its inception, seeing as Lara deals with every situation as if she were the girl in it, which obviously isn't the case and may make things worse if the girl in question is more introverted than her.

The problem is here is that you're taking the word of one woman as gospel, as if the entire female population operate under some hive mind mentality. That's not the case. Let's put it another way: Lara likes guys who are out there, 'supernovae', so to speak. Guys who, to quieter people like you or I, we might label jerks or assholes for their extrovert behaviour, which may or may not be the case. Hell, in this thread alone, we've got replies from women who wouldn't think worse of you for watching those particular brands of anime, or liking video games.

My point is, you wouldn't be attractive to a woman like Lara, and it's likely you wouldn't really be attracted to her, personality-wise at least, because you have differing interests. This is not, however, synonymous with no woman being attracted to you. It's likely you just haven't met the right person yet; trite, I know, and I hate being told simpering pieces of non-advice like "Ooooh, there's someone out there for everyone" myself, but I don't really know how else to put it. I've never had a girlfriend, but I've managed to make a lot of female friends, so I'll be damned if I'm going to start behaving like someone I'm not to try and attract a girl, because I know I can find someone who likes the real me.

Just don't dwell on it too much; it'll make your situation unbearable. When you do meet a girl who you like and who likes you back, go for it and don't hold back, but that time won't come any faster if you keep agonizing over all the what ifs and maybes as to why you haven't met that girl yet.
 

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LiberalSquirrel said:
Let me start off by saying that you seem to have a rather interesting (and not particularly positive) stereotype of women. For me, a guy that likes anime and video games is a plus. It gives me two things that I know I can talk to 'em about, after all.

...I say "I like video games" and I mean... well... that I like video games. I mean that I've spent far too much time beating up friends in Super Smash Bros., Soul Calibur II, and Blazblue. I mean that I've sunk hours into all sorts of RPGs. I do not mean that I've done nothing but play "Farmville or maybe an Xbox Live Arcade game." I love a guy who I can talk games with, but anyone who automatically thinks that I'm declaring myself a "gamer grrl" to get attention is a person who gets on my last one. I don't try to draw attention to myself via my gaming hobby. I mention it to someone because... well... it's one of my favorite hobbies. I game. It's what I do. A man who can't love my Legend of Zelda ringtone can't love me.
Thank you, LiberalSquirrel. It is so annoying when I hear guys saying that girls aren't "into video games." My favorite games include L4D2 and Halo, and I have to drag my best guy friend into playing them because he "isn't into" FPS. Just because I'm a woman, doesn't mean anything about my video game loves. I take sadistic glee in bashing zombie heads in with a cricket bat or watching their heads explode when you use a shotgun.

I also love anime. It's a great use of art and I adore it. Ao no Exorcist is one of my favorites, along with others like D.N.Angel.

You just need to find a group of people with similar interests. And then meet people that way.
 

Melon Hunter

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usmarine4160 said:
Melon Hunter said:
as if the entire female population operate under some hive mind mentality. That's not the case.
We don't take kindly to that kind of deranged thinking around these parts...
Um... is this sarcasm, or have you misconstrued my post as me thinking all women behave and think exactly the same? Not meaning to have a go at you, but I would just like to clear up any misunderstanding.