That is true. I found the average failure rate of a Xbox 360: 59%. Wow, good job Microsoftmigo said:There are always exceptions. Reliability issues for the Xbox 360 are well known, and to suggest it isn't true is absolutely ridiculous.Judgement101 said:Thats not true about going through two 360s. Me and 5 of my friends all have 360s and none of them have crashed/RRoD and we have had them for around 4 years. My PS3 on the other hand yellow lighted within a year.migo said:The latter is more tedious than a real problem, the former isn't true. When you factor in Xbox Live Gold simply for the privilege of playing online a 360 costs twice as much over the life of the console than a PS3, and that's not factoring in that you'll easily go through two 360s while a PS3 is still going strong.Frequen-Z said:But it costs a heap and you have to install games.
PS3 is the cheapest of the 3 consoles as far as long term cost goes. With the Wii you end up paying a bunch for all the accessory controllers, for the 360 you're paying for stuff that comes included with the PS3 and for being able to play online.
Since when was this about the Xbox 360? It was about the Pros and Cons of the PS3 not why the ... is better than the ... And 3rd Party Controllers? Xbox360 have Controllers for the disabled! Also, I don't think anyone else would want another version of the current controller as its damn near perfect anyway.migo said:Obviously the controller is an issue of preference but I think the PS3 wins out here overall. You can get 360 style controllers for the PS3, or with 360 style triggers but still otherwise like DualShock. For the 360 there's only one option, so if you do happen to prefer the DualShock then the 360 doesn't work out. The PS3 with 3rd party controllers has far more options than the 360.Nouw said:
Learn to follow everything that's quoted. A con was listed as worst console controller, that's automatically a comparison with other consoles, and the 360 comes out worse than the PS3, hence the con isn't a valid bullet point.Nouw said:Since when was this about the Xbox 360? It was about the Pros and Cons of the PS3 not why the ... is better than the ... And 3rd Party Controllers? Xbox360 have Controllers for the disabled! Also, I don't think anyone else would want another version of the current controller as its damn near perfect anyway.migo said:Obviously the controller is an issue of preference but I think the PS3 wins out here overall. You can get 360 style controllers for the PS3, or with 360 style triggers but still otherwise like DualShock. For the 360 there's only one option, so if you do happen to prefer the DualShock then the 360 doesn't work out. The PS3 with 3rd party controllers has far more options than the 360.Nouw said:
Possibly the worst Console Controller? As you said, Learn to follow everything that's quoted. Also, I beg to differ that the PS3 is a better console controller than the Xbox 360 Console Controller.migo said:Learn to follow everything that's quoted. A con was listed as worst console controller, that's automatically a comparison with other consoles, and the 360 comes out worse than the PS3, hence the con isn't a valid bullet point.Nouw said:Since when was this about the Xbox 360? It was about the Pros and Cons of the PS3 not why the ... is better than the ... And 3rd Party Controllers? Xbox360 have Controllers for the disabled! Also, I don't think anyone else would want another version of the current controller as its damn near perfect anyway.migo said:Obviously the controller is an issue of preference but I think the PS3 wins out here overall. You can get 360 style controllers for the PS3, or with 360 style triggers but still otherwise like DualShock. For the 360 there's only one option, so if you do happen to prefer the DualShock then the 360 doesn't work out. The PS3 with 3rd party controllers has far more options than the 360.Nouw said:
If your 360 RRODs, you can send it in and get a new one for pretty much free. Based on a PS3 owner who got yellow lighted or whatever, he apparently had to pay. Plus Sony is now trying to get subscription for that thing they are adding, and though I understand you can still play online free, if you want to do alot of stuff a gold member on 360 can do, you gotta pay.migo said:The latter is more tedious than a real problem, the former isn't true. When you factor in Xbox Live Gold simply for the privilege of playing online a 360 costs twice as much over the life of the console than a PS3, and that's not factoring in that you'll easily go through two 360s while a PS3 is still going strong.Frequen-Z said:But it costs a heap and you have to install games.
PS3 is the cheapest of the 3 consoles as far as long term cost goes. With the Wii you end up paying a bunch for all the accessory controllers, for the 360 you're paying for stuff that comes included with the PS3 and for being able to play online.
New 360 doesn't have the extended warranty for RRoD failure since it doesn't have the LED's to produce one. There's nothing in PS+ that you have to pay for that's necessary for online play.Miumaru said:If your 360 RRODs, you can send it in and get a new one for pretty much free. Based on a PS3 owner who got yellow lighted or whatever, he apparently had to pay. Plus Sony is now trying to get subscription for that thing they are adding, and though I understand you can still play online free, if you want to do alot of stuff a gold member on 360 can do, you gotta pay.migo said:The latter is more tedious than a real problem, the former isn't true. When you factor in Xbox Live Gold simply for the privilege of playing online a 360 costs twice as much over the life of the console than a PS3, and that's not factoring in that you'll easily go through two 360s while a PS3 is still going strong.Frequen-Z said:But it costs a heap and you have to install games.
PS3 is the cheapest of the 3 consoles as far as long term cost goes. With the Wii you end up paying a bunch for all the accessory controllers, for the 360 you're paying for stuff that comes included with the PS3 and for being able to play online.
The only PS3 specific pros I cna think of, are the exclusives (which is only pro if you want them, as for any system) and if you liek movies and are snobby about it, it has Blu-Ray. Otherwise, its just preference.
That one word doesn't change anything. That title still clearly goes to the Wiimote regardless, and less options is always a drawback. It's always going to be PS3>360>Wii when it comes to controllers.Nouw said:Possibly the worst Console Controller? As you said, Learn to follow everything that's quoted. Also, I beg to differ that the PS3 is a better console controller than the Xbox 360 Console Controller.migo said:Learn to follow everything that's quoted. A con was listed as worst console controller, that's automatically a comparison with other consoles, and the 360 comes out worse than the PS3, hence the con isn't a valid bullet point.Nouw said:Since when was this about the Xbox 360? It was about the Pros and Cons of the PS3 not why the ... is better than the ... And 3rd Party Controllers? Xbox360 have Controllers for the disabled! Also, I don't think anyone else would want another version of the current controller as its damn near perfect anyway.migo said:Obviously the controller is an issue of preference but I think the PS3 wins out here overall. You can get 360 style controllers for the PS3, or with 360 style triggers but still otherwise like DualShock. For the 360 there's only one option, so if you do happen to prefer the DualShock then the 360 doesn't work out. The PS3 with 3rd party controllers has far more options than the 360.Nouw said:
My little brothers BluRay drive stopped working once. The console itself was still usable though, he could just not play games from the BD drive.lifesucksadapt said:Now i've heard my fair share of stories and most of them have been about how good the PS3 is. Im curious has anyone had any problems or major issues with the PS3 so far, not like nit picky things that are just tiresome. I've had my X-box for 2 years now and i've definently had my fair share of problems with it, im asking this because in a few monthes im getting my own PS3 and i'd like to know what im up against as far as big problems. Of course I also want to hear some of the good stuff about it but thats a slippery slope because i've heared soooooo many good things about it that im wondering if its got any problems at all.
Wet wipes or rubbing alcohol works a treat, I disinfected mine yesterday because my cousin had a piss and didn't wash his hands the dirty French git.omega 616 said:You don't get a choice about installs but in my experience not alot of games install.
Besides a few crashes I have never had a problem with my launch PS3, my only small gripe is my analogue sticks stick sometimes.
I assume there just in need of a good clean but with what?
Well it sounds like all your friends have launch PS3s. The launch PS3s have problems that have been fixed.migo said:A friend of mine with a 60GB launch PS3 recently started having some problems, but I know two more with launch models who still have none.
I don't know anyone with a PS3 who isn't happy with it, while I know plenty who are unhappy with their 360s.