Quite agreed, un armed doesnt mean non-dangerous.Eclectic Dreck said:Unarmed is not the same thing as helpless. An unarmed person can still deliver lethal injury. We are, after all, rather fragile.Raven said:My problem is that the police shot an unarmed man. If this were to happen in a place where regular police officers don't carry guns, the police officer would have found another method of taking him down without killing him. But as far as I know this police officer didn't even try.Mortai Gravesend said:While I didn't really care to listen to the news video(watched it to see if actual footage came up and it didn't) the article I read mentioned that he told the guy to back away from the other guy and when he didn't stop eating him he shot him. Considering he's biting off the other guy's face I think shooting him at that point is justified, the other guy's life is in danger. Though not sure which would be more accurate the article or the video.
There is potential for crazy zombie style attacks anywhere. American police are far too trigger happy for my liking. As I said, I'm glad I don't live there.
Especially when once considers that application of a taser, when there is direct contact with a second person, results in both the taser being less effective but also guarantees that both the attacker and the victim get shocked.Mazza35 said:Some guy is eating your face off, not just trying, but actually EATING IT OFF.
Would you rather take the chance of 'tasers' and other bullshit, or a semi-auto 9mm pistol to stop the guy eating your face?
Plenty of incidents can be resolved without lethal force. When lethal force is the only way to resolve the incident however, generally time is of the essence. Hell, the use of lethal force is the rare exception. In my city of more than a million people with countless thousands of crimes a year, the use of lethal force by police only happens once in a blue moon and I live in Texas.Mazza35 said:And you response to 'armed officers,' the UK has horrible laws on this. If someone went bat-shit crazy and started shooting up the street, I wouldnt' want to wait for the 'armed reponse' which could take up to several minuets to arrive, in that time 30 people could of died.
I understand that majority of incidents are resolved without lethal force, but I do like the confidence that if a shooting starts happening, my regular police (Who I have no reason to distrust) can deal with it swiftlyEclectic Dreck said:Especially when once considers that application of a taser, when there is direct contact with a second person, results in both the taser being less effective but also guarantees that both the attacker and the victim get shocked.Mazza35 said:Some guy is eating your face off, not just trying, but actually EATING IT OFF.
Would you rather take the chance of 'tasers' and other bullshit, or a semi-auto 9mm pistol to stop the guy eating your face?
Plenty of incidents can be resolved without lethal force. When lethal force is the only way to resolve the incident however, generally time is of the essence. Hell, the use of lethal force is the rare exception. In my city of more than a million people with countless thousands of crimes a year, the use of lethal force by police only happens once in a blue moon and I live in Texas.Mazza35 said:And you response to 'armed officers,' the UK has horrible laws on this. If someone went bat-shit crazy and started shooting up the street, I wouldnt' want to wait for the 'armed reponse' which could take up to several minuets to arrive, in that time 30 people could of died.
Holy... Shit...Tekkawarrior said:11th May: 500,000 dollars of pathology equipment stole in Orlando Florida that was infected with a flesh eating virus. (Florida)
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-05-11/news/os-orlando-stolen-lab-equipment-hazmat-20120511_1_equipment-hazardous-materials-orlando-police-department
16th May: McArthur High School HazMat Situation: Students, Teachers Decontaminated After Breaking Out In Rash (Florida):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/16/mcarthur-high-school-contamination_n_1521764.html
19th May: No confirmation on chemical at Fort Lauderdale International Airport (Florida):
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/terminal-2-evacuated-at-fort-lauderdale-airport-in-hazmat-scare
21th May: Police: Man bites woman in Westchester (Illinois):
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/westchester/newsnow/x639948018/Police-Man-bites-woman-in-Westchester
23th May: Man Bites Cousin's Nose Off (Florida):
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Man-Bites-Cousins-Nose-Off-153100125.html
24th May: Second Broward school reports mystery rash (Florida):
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/05/24/2815003/second-broward-school-reports.html
25th May: Hazmat Called After Kids Exposed To what authorities are calling ?Pesticide? On Bus: Hazmat, EMS Respond To Lake County, FL School (Florida):
http://www.wesh.com/r/31112110/detail.html
25th May: 'Disoriented' passenger subdued on flight in Miami (Florida)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/25/passenger-restrained-on-flight-to-miami-arrested/
26th May: Florida Doctor Spits Blood at Highway Patrolmen After DUI Arrest (Florida):
http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-doctor-spits-blood-troopers-face-dui-arrest/story?id=16436402
27th May: Miami police shoot naked man chewing on victim's face (Florida):
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/26/11899538-report-miami-police-shoot-naked-man-chewing-on-victims-face]http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/26/11899538-report-miami-police-shoot-naked-man-chewing-on-victims-face
27th May: Georgia contractor bites Lowe's employees, resists arrest (Florida):
http://columbus.wtvm.com/news/crime/54763-contractor-bites-lowes-employees-resists-arrest
27th May: Researcher of flesh eating disease (NYU Medical center) murdered in broad daylight (New york):
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/woman-shot-dead-outside-north-carolina-elementary-school/story-e6frfku0-1226368065534
its spreading... yes those are TWO other cannibal stories from less than a week ago.manaman said:Nope, just Florida.MeXR said:Zombie apocalypse anyone?
There will likely be an investigation but I suspect that the issue is the suspects extreme aggression and mania made physical restraint or pain compliance impractical. The suspect has already demonstrated his capability and willingness to cause serious irreversible harm.Pinkamena said:Why did the police have to shoot the crazy guy? Sure, he tried to attack the police, but surely there are other ways to stop him than to kill him...
This is true, I should probably clarify my initial post somewhat.FelixG said:To be fair, there is a difference between liberals and whiny White Knights, this tread has a number of whiny white knights.Iron Criterion said:Edit: I seriously doubt anyone in the officer's position would be considering a non-lethal take-down, despite what all the "OMG, he didn't deserve to die" liberals in this thread are saying.
There is some overlap between the two, but a lot of liberals are not, in fact, idiots.
7 billion people on this planet and those are completely separate and distinct - if awful - cases.Zack Alklazaris said:its spreading... yes those are TWO other cannibal stories from less than a week ago.manaman said:Nope, just Florida.MeXR said:Zombie apocalypse anyone?
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/18673043/killer-cannibal-admits-eating-maryland-house-guests-heart-and-brain
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4349654/Cannibal-on-run-after-chopping-up-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html
But... I'm having so much fun.Treblaine said:7 billion people on this planet and those are completely separate and distinct - if awful - cases.Zack Alklazaris said:its spreading... yes those are TWO other cannibal stories from less than a week ago.manaman said:Nope, just Florida.MeXR said:Zombie apocalypse anyone?
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/18673043/killer-cannibal-admits-eating-maryland-house-guests-heart-and-brain
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4349654/Cannibal-on-run-after-chopping-up-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html
I know you are probably joking but please, some people take this the wrong way and get worked up into a panic over nothing.