Crysis 2 has been leaked, is even now being pirated by thousands of unscrupulous souls.

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darth.pixie

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lacktheknack said:
darth.pixie said:
lacktheknack said:
darth.pixie said:
If I were Crytek or any major developer I'd just make better protection.
Ubisoft tried that, you know. Yes, THAT Ubisoft.
It was cracked. Rather fast, too. Ubisoft never got that.

I meant proper protection not in a "Big Brother" kind of way but proper encryption and obscure coding. It's possible.
Three months =/= a fast crack.
Yes it is. The concept behind the crack was most likely done faster. It was the writing that probably took up more. And I've known games that were cracked after a year or two (due to the encrypted code)
 

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adderseal said:
It was never a case of if, but when. Although I'm surprised they've got it down this quickly.

Just had to refresh the fucking captcha about 10 times to get a legible one. How much longer is this shit going to stay around?

^in reference to the captcha... which I didnt need to fill out, lol...

Anyways, this is why I never defend pirates, even with the beautiful explanation from Extra Credit.
 

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Angryman101 said:
tomtom94 said:
You see, how does this help anyone? There's already a demo so you can't use the "try before you buy" excuse.

This is literally just for those looking for a free lunch and all it does is convince the industry that further anti-piracy restrictions are necessary, which leads to Ubisoft DRM. Do we want that again?
gmaverick019 said:
ugh...

see. this is why i never defend the pirates.

try as you might, pirates are pirates for a reason.

greedy.fuckers.
Why are you people blaming the pirates? You should be blaming the person/people who leaked the fucking thing. That's like blaming the people watching a fire burn instead of the person who started it.
More like people throwing gas on the fire while watching it burn.

The pirates should get in just as much trouble for stealing them as the guy who leaked it.
 

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well this may be a good thing for me i can see if it works so i can get the right version when it comes out for real
 

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The Unworthy Gentleman said:
Given I did exaggerate there but they've still taken money from the developers and the publishers. If they weren't going to buy the game then they shouldn't get it for free, that's not how this thing works, even the 'communist' argument disagrees with that.
I'm not really saying that they should get the game for free, just that Crytek, while still damaged, isn't being damaged nearly as bad as everyone thinks they are going to be.

And for the record (This is pretty much my opinion on the subject, so if you disagree with me then feel free to), I don't really find that pirating is taking real money from a developer. In my honest opinion, pirating is only stealing potential money. No item is being removed from their possession. I'll use the copying scenario. If you walk into a store, and steal a candy bar, you are taking the cost of the candy bar from that store. If you walk into a store and copy the candy bar, and take the copy, you are still stealing, but the store doesn't lose any real money.

Granted, it is still stealing, and the potential money could have been real money, so I understand where you are coming from completely.
 

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omicron1 said:
There are two examples that I can think of where this happened in the past (or similar, at least) - one was Rocksteady, with Arkham Asylum, which broke if pirated; the other was Iron Lore Entertainment, with Titan Quest. It was pirated before release, but the pirated version contained deliberate bugs and prevented progression beyond, I believe, the end of the region contained in the demo.

Sadly, Iron Lore received a lot of bad press from people complaining about "bugs" in the game they "bought" - before release. It even factored into the reviews - and probably played some part in their eventual closure. Sadness ensued - Titan Quest was a great game.
Sad. It's nice to see a dev has tried such a route before, but sad at how pathetic people are, and how pointless most game reviews are the majority of the time.

If this keeps up - I can forsee US companies starting to make use of eastern-European DRM solutions . . . which are 10x more draconian in nature than anything that has been coughed up here in the states.


CoL0sS said:
I like your style sir. I wasn't planning on getting this game but I really can't dismiss this news as irrelevant. When they pull out stunt like this it had an serious impact on PC as a gaming platform and therefore affects us all. I know they're gonna make a lot of money off this game regardless of pirates, but this just gives them reason to regard PC as a 2nd class platform, and PC gamers as potential pirates.

IMHO, the first one (and it's follow-up Warhead) were fun . . . they weren't that groundbreaking in the gameplay department, the visuals were pretty, but I thought they were over-hyped. I still enjoyed them enough to commit to purchasing Crysis2 when it's released, not a few months down the road after the price drops (like I typically do).

I believe you're correct in assuming that this will only further foul Crytek's view of the PC market . . . even though they've stated themselves before that they develop primarily on PC for PC. The piracy shennanigans of the first Crysis release quickly earned it the most pirated title of 2007, even thought it was released late November 2007. Within a month and a half, it had trumped out all other major releases that year - including Call of Duty 4. It was because of the piracy, though, that Crytek resolved to no longer release as PC exclusive.



IDK . . . I'm kinda hoping this is just some kind of sick PR stunt on EA's part.
 
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Radeonx said:
I'm not really saying that they should get the game for free, just that Crytek, while still damaged, isn't being damaged nearly as bad as everyone thinks they are going to be.

And for the record (This is pretty much my opinion on the subject, so if you disagree with me then feel free to), I don't really find that pirating is taking real money from a developer. In my honest opinion, pirating is only stealing potential money. No item is being removed from their possession. I'll use the copying scenario. If you walk into a store, and steal a candy bar, you are taking the cost of the candy bar from that store. If you walk into a store and copy the candy bar, and take the copy, you are still stealing, but the store doesn't lose any real money.

Granted, it is still stealing, and the potential money could have been real money, so I understand where you are coming from completely.
It's like buying a used game (which is a completely different thing but is relevant here), you have taken potential money from the developers and publishers. I shouldn't really knock piracy on those grounds because I do buy games used. No one loses money, but they do lose customers which are essentially money to a business. It's a difficult moral subject as to whether or not taking potential money is truly bad or not but in the case where you aren't giving anything to anyone (pirating) then it is wrong.

Damn, controversial subjects at 10 to twelve is not a good idea.
 

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And you wonder why more and more the PC version seems to get worse and worse for any game. They can't protect it cuz then it doesn't sell. The law doesn't protect them. So I don't blame them much anymore when the PC version gets the short end these days. The big companies are trying to kill PC gaming and this is a good reason why.

And the leeches (cuz pirates still sounds cool) are going to use the excuse "well I couldn't buy it in my area so I pirated it". Thanks Extra Credits.
 

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This kind of thing doesn't need to be happening. The only time that pirating a game is even semi-acceptable is when there is an absolutely ridiculous DRM imposed upon it. (Looking at you Ubisoft)
 

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The Unworthy Gentleman said:
Radeonx said:
I'm not really saying that they should get the game for free, just that Crytek, while still damaged, isn't being damaged nearly as bad as everyone thinks they are going to be.

And for the record (This is pretty much my opinion on the subject, so if you disagree with me then feel free to), I don't really find that pirating is taking real money from a developer. In my honest opinion, pirating is only stealing potential money. No item is being removed from their possession. I'll use the copying scenario. If you walk into a store, and steal a candy bar, you are taking the cost of the candy bar from that store. If you walk into a store and copy the candy bar, and take the copy, you are still stealing, but the store doesn't lose any real money.

Granted, it is still stealing, and the potential money could have been real money, so I understand where you are coming from completely.
It's like buying a used game (which is a completely different thing but is relevant here), you have taken potential money from the developers and publishers. I shouldn't really knock piracy on those grounds because I do buy games used. No one loses money, but they do lose customers which are essentially money to a business. It's a difficult moral subject as to whether or not taking potential money is truly bad or not but in the case where you aren't giving anything to anyone (pirating) then it is wrong.
Well, for used games, (I'll use Gamestop for this example because it is the easiest one to pick) the company itself makes profit. One could make the case that because the company gets money, they can use that to purchase the orders from the game companies themselves, thus still giving money to the creators.
It is kind of a stretch, but it is still better then piracy.

And yes, the controversy of piracy talks here are incredibly fun, aren't they?
 

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That's a disappointment. I used to be fine with pirating to be honest, but after a while, I've kind of picked up on the stupidity of the situation.
I do wish there were more demos so people could see if a game is really worth their money, but too many people use the "piracy=demo" excuse, and let's be honest, most of them are never going to buy that game unless they have no way to access major content.

I do hope the PC demo comes out soon so I can see if the game is as good as it looks, or all the nay-sayers are right.
 

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MasterSaji said:
LCP said:
Than you pirates for trying to kill PC gaming. IF i see anyone comment that he downloaded it IRL. Imma punch him in the mouth
I downloaded it IRL.
You downloaded it IRL and not digitally?
Can we expect you to walk around in a nanosuit?
 
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nofear220 said:
gmaverick019 said:
ugh...

see. this is why i never defend the pirates.

try as you might, pirates are pirates for a reason.

greedy.fuckers.
Sweet generalization dooooooooood
I actually don't even care much for piracy itself, nor do i care about others opinions, but when companies, especially crytek, see shit like this happening? its THEIR opinion that matters, and it just got a big frown on the pc more than likely, regardless of who let it loose.
 

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Doctor Glocktor said:
The pirates should get in just as much trouble for stealing them as the guy who leaked it.
Why? Some guy posted a leaked copy of an item that could not be procured elsewhere, why wouldn't they take advantage of that?
It's like when artists leak out their music months early to generate hype, except it's kind of a surprise for everyone involved in this case.
 

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I think the term "This is why we can't have nice things." comes to mind. : /

This really is a kick in the nuts for crytek, and not a soft tap of a kick, the kicker drew his foot back as far as he could before kicking.
 
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Angryman101 said:
tomtom94 said:
You see, how does this help anyone? There's already a demo so you can't use the "try before you buy" excuse.

This is literally just for those looking for a free lunch and all it does is convince the industry that further anti-piracy restrictions are necessary, which leads to Ubisoft DRM. Do we want that again?
gmaverick019 said:
ugh...

see. this is why i never defend the pirates.

try as you might, pirates are pirates for a reason.

greedy.fuckers.
Why are you people blaming the pirates? You should be blaming the person/people who leaked the fucking thing. That's like blaming the people watching a fire burn instead of the person who started it.
i'm not saying the person who let it go shouldn't be having a boot to the ass

and in your example, if people were just standing there admiring it, (they weren't using it for power or using it to stay warm a.k.a. a game), i'd be righteously pissed off at them for not helping get it out!
 

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imperialreign said:
This is ridiculous - I wonder what kind of arguements people will cough up for this one. With Crysis, the biggest arguement was that they "wanted to see if their rig could run it," as the demo wasn't fully indicative of how demanding the game was.

Either way, it's BS.

. . . and what pisses me off the most out of all this are the ass-hats that have the nerve to pirate a game and use a cracked .exe or serial, then go onto the dev's tech support forums when they start encountering problems.


TBH - I'd personally love to see a game company developing a super-hyped blockbuster release (like Crysis 2) napalm the pirate community by releasing a "leaked" version of the game a month or two before hand, one that includes a nasty trojan or virus of some sort, and the version has inherent flaws that prevent it from being played (or enjoyed). You know it'd be downloaded like mad, and everyone would deserve what they got . . . but, I'm pretty sure it's illegal for devs to pull such a stunt.
if I recall correctly there was an article on the escapist about people pirating a eroge game and they got their ip address and desktop picture posted on the web