Crysis 2 put into perspective

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What's the frame-rate like on PC? It's pretty bad on 360.

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There is so much anger towards consoles and 'consolification' on the site recently... can you really blame them for focusing on the console market after what happened last month with the game being leaked on PC?

Blame the pirates, not the developers. The devs just want their just rewards for their work.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
What's the frame-rate like on PC? It's pretty bad on 360.

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There is so much anger towards consoles and 'consolification' on the site recently... can you really blame them for focusing on the console market after what happened last month with the game being leaked on PC?

Blame the pirates, not the developers. The devs just want their just rewards for their work.
Leaked by the developers.

Pirates didn't sneak into the headquarters of Crytek, assault Cevat Yerli and demand he hand over the beta version of Crysis 2.
 

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Well whoever leaked the game kinda had to be on their team. Also that late into the development cycle they didn't go, well some pirates are dicks so we shall put the last month of effort into consolifying the game.

Right installed, shall see what is is like before actual judgement!
 

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Astalano said:
Leaked by the developers.

Pirates didn't sneak into the headquarters of Crytek, assault Cevat Yerli and demand he hand over the beta version of Crysis 2.
No, but they did distribute it all over the internet.

What other reason could they have other than piracy for leaning towards consoles when there are still tonnes of PC gamers out there? It's a more secure market and they make less losses on theft. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing, just that the blame needs to be directed at the douchebags who steal the games, not at little Jimmy Shooter and his XBOX.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Astalano said:
Leaked by the developers.

Pirates didn't sneak into the headquarters of Crytek, assault Cevat Yerli and demand he hand over the beta version of Crysis 2.
No, but they did distribute it all over the internet.

What other reason could they have other than piracy for leaning towards consoles when there are still tonnes of PC gamers out there? It's a more secure market and they make less losses on theft. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing, just that the blame needs to be directed at the douchebags who steal the games, not at little Jimmy Shooter and his XBOX.
I will say this once and only once.

Piracy is a non-issue.

Good day.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
What's the frame-rate like on PC? It's pretty bad on 360.

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There is so much anger towards consoles and 'consolification' on the site recently... can you really blame them for focusing on the console market after what happened last month with the game being leaked on PC?

Blame the pirates, not the developers. The devs just want their just rewards for their work.
Pirates didn't destroy the game. If the game was going really well on PC before the leak then why are the Leaked beta AND the original release have the same problem?
Shouldn't the Beta be, you know better?
Pirates are the thing you can blame on. Yes piracy is killing gaming, but not because there are not enough sales but because every developer thinks they can make shit games and blame it on pirates that it was shit.
Plus, the money goes to publisher not to the developer. Developers only get royalty on the basis of sales. And there is not more anger about consolification but more on that Crytek fucked with us. They told us the PC release would not be held down by consoles and would be better than the consoles one but it turned out to be utter failure in terms of porting BY a PC centric developer, no less.

And as for the FPS.
I am getting constant 60 FPS on "MAXIMUM GRAPHICS" on my PC.
But without DX11 it does looks like a little shit. Any PC that can run Crysis 1 can run Crysis 2 easily.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Astalano said:
Leaked by the developers.

Pirates didn't sneak into the headquarters of Crytek, assault Cevat Yerli and demand he hand over the beta version of Crysis 2.
No, but they did distribute it all over the internet.

What other reason could they have other than piracy for leaning towards consoles when there are still tonnes of PC gamers out there? It's a more secure market and they make less losses on theft. I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing, just that the blame needs to be directed at the douchebags who steal the games, not at little Jimmy Shooter and his XBOX.
Because piracy doesn't exist on consoles right? I'll admit, it's larger on PC but I think you may be surprised just how prevalent it is on consoles.
 

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Hiphophippo said:
Because piracy doesn't exist on consoles right? I'll admit, it's larger on PC but I think you may be surprised just how prevalent it is on consoles.
Perhaps. I've never heard anyone mention it myself but I'm not going to claim to know anything about it.

Vibhor said:
Plus, the money goes to publisher not to the developer. Developers only get royalty on the basis of sales. And there is not more anger about consolification but more on that Crytek fucked with us. They told us the PC release would not be held down by consoles and would be better than the consoles one but it turned out to be utter failure in terms of porting BY a PC centric developer, no less.
So it's an issue about how the game functions on PC? If it is technically flawed and broken on the PC version well then I can totally see your point.

I would love to see what this game looks like in 60FPS. The just-barely holding onto 30FPS of my 360 version makes it somewhat less impressive to me than it should be.


Astalano said:
I will say this once and only once.

Piracy is a non-issue.

Good day.
OK then. I'm not really sure what you mean by that but I'm not going to hound you to elaborate as you clearly don't want to discuss it.
 

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Well, I haven't played it yet. But it doesn't look all that much like the originals that I loved.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
OK then. I'm not really sure what you mean by that but I'm not going to hound you to elaborate as you clearly don't want to discuss it.
I'm not going to discuss it because it has been discussed to death and there is plenty of evidence showing that piracy rarely, if ever, equals poor sales. It's a non issue and I'm tired of discussing the issue with people, especially if they haven't done their research.
 

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IThis exactly.
I don't have a problem with console ports to the PC. I prefere them over not being able to play the games without having to buy some brick to play games on.

I have however a problem with being fed bullshit and being told it's chocolate.
Agreed. Crytek had been stating loudly since C2 first started going into development that it's being designed primarily for and around the capabilities of a PC. Hell, even before C2's development when the first tech demos of CryEngine3 were being released.

Gameplay now, compared to Crysis, just doesn't feel the same. Sure, it's flexible and all, but you're not left with that same feeling of flexibility and control we had with Crysis.


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I disagree with this as well. You get a nano suit in multiplayer and the modes are different enough from the generic TDM, CTF, etc. that they're fun and it's a really good multiplayer experience.
I can see the point that C2 is nothing spectacular in MP. Don't forget, for those of us on PC, there's not much new to the table compared to the MP of Crysis. Sure, this is a new MP for everyone playing on consoles, but for us PC players, it's old hat.

MP in Crysis felt unbalanced many times. MP in C2 feels the same.
 

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From what I understand of Crysis 2 it works perfectly well on PC and Consoles. Interesting about the "Press Start to begin" thing though, although I agree that it's a pretty pointless thing to get pissy about I would also agree that it should be something that developers address.

It's a pretty simple and glaringly obvious thing to rectify, why is this so often forgotten about? It's just a matter of presentation, you wouldn't submit an essay without giving it a spell-check and a once-over, you wouldn't give a work presentation without changing the '2010' wihth a '2011' even if it is the same presentation you gave the year before.
 

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CriticalGriffin said:
... Wait.

Sorry if I sound offtopic, but isn't this like what, the sixth Crysis 2 thread in this forum?

Why?
Cause it's a gaming forum, the game has just been released and people are pissed. Every time a subject like this comes up their are a load of copy cat threads I am afraid.

MiracleOfSound said:
What's the frame-rate like on PC? It's pretty bad on 360.

OT:

There is so much anger towards consoles and 'consolification' on the site recently... can you really blame them for focusing on the console market after what happened last month with the game being leaked on PC?

Blame the pirates, not the developers. The devs just want their just rewards for their work.
That's bull as first, it was Crytek's fault that it was leaked, not PC owners. The game was console focused before the game leaked, so I think the causality / logic of your argument is a bit off. Also their were stories that the leaked version was hardly downloaded in comparison to other leaked / pirated games as the PC community showed a lot of restraint, signed petitions etc.

But of course if the sales are low I am sure Crytek will roll out the piracy excuse, rather than admitting that people are non nonplussed about console ports.

My prediction for Crysis 3, is that console owners will be complaining due to the game being ported to consoles from mobile devices like the Ipad 4, etc. Since there will be a bigger market on mobile devices, Crytek will focus the game there with console gamers complaining about the game being mobile ported as the start screen will say 'touch to start'.

Anyway Crytek had better hope the game sells like hot cakes on consoles as they have burned their bridges on the PC (I know not much of a threat). PC owners will give the same amount of support to Crysis as they do to COD, if not less.
 

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Superior Mind said:
From what I understand of Crysis 2 it works perfectly well on PC and Consoles. Interesting about the "Press Start to begin" thing though, although I agree that it's a pretty pointless thing to get pissy about I would also agree that it should be something that developers address.

It's a pretty simple and glaringly obvious thing to rectify, why is this so often forgotten about? It's just a matter of presentation, you wouldn't submit an essay without giving it a spell-check and a once-over, you wouldn't give a work presentation without changing the '2010' wihth a '2011' even if it is the same presentation you gave the year before.
It does work fine but that isn't the point.
Every console gamer seems to ignore the fact that quality matters.
First it was Dragon age 2 and now crysis 2.
This year is not good for sequels.
The level seems less open ended, because of consoles/lazy-ness from crytek there is no DX11(Lets put it this way, With DX11 the game would look 10 times more beautiful), The AI has take a hit.
Its not about being worse on console, its being a worse game than it's prequel and that my friend is the worst sequel you could go for.
 

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Never realized a typo or allowing for the adjustment of the brightness of your screen to be considered mind boggling issues' Would the entire think be just peachy if it said monitor? Are you people really that fucking anal?

Less open ended...Yeah so what? That isn't necessarily a bad thing. They wanted to go with a more linear structure because guess what, they wanted to tell a story that wasn't ass (Example: First Game) and a linear levels allows for this to happen much easier. Also, powers are not more limited. You want speed? Sprint. Strength was useless in the first game anyway.

I hate these types of PC gamers with entitlement comlex's that think everything should be exactlythe same. If it ever changes, even for the better, IT SOOOOO MUCH WORSE OMGOMGOMG! EVEN THOUGH THE POWERS WERE USELESS IN THE FIRST GAME BECAUSE THE POWER RAN OUT IN BARELY ANY TIME, IT SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSS...
 

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As a big fan of the original Crysis (and Warhead), I honestly have a hard time seeing why people are complaining so much. Yes, it is a departure from the original but it still retains much of what made it great. The predator-esque gameplay is still completely intact, the game engine is incredibly well optimized and looks fantastic, the sound is great and the controls feel perfectly at home on PC.

If there's one thing I miss, it's the massive levels from the original. I could get lost for hours on those. Despite that, the levels in Crysis 2 are designed very well and have some great artistic design, so that makes up for it.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
There is so much anger towards consoles and 'consolification' on the site recently... can you really blame them for focusing on the console market after what happened last month with the game being leaked on PC?

Blame the pirates, not the developers. The devs just want their just rewards for their work.
It was an internal leak, bro. Somebody's to blame here, and more likely than not, they work at Crytek.